Who is more powerful, Thor or the Silver Surfer?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, Beta Ray Bill thought it was warrior's madness so he was wrong. Did you even read the story all the through? I bet you just leafed through some scans. It's funny midway through you attacked yourself to ambient's misguided argument like a parasite.

Again, Bill was misinformed and was incorrect. He falsely thought it was warrior's madness, but it wasn't so guess who is right? Me. 🙂

When did Galactus get put down by Thing's punch?

No, it isn't meaningless. The fact is Thor has the power to destroy even his own hammer thus proving his power level is higher than the Surfer's. He doesn't need his most powerful godblast to prove he is more powerful than the Surfer anyways.

Thor also can use these awesome energies without the aid of mjolnir. He godblasted durok.

Will do. 😉

Don't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure I remember it happening. Someone else watching might know more details though(so if anyone remembers the issue I'm thinking of chime in).

Sure it is. Thor being able to shatter his own hammer is an unquantifiable feat.

Did it actually say it was a Godblast? For some reason I was thinking that it didn't but I might be remembering wrong.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Bill knows how strong Thor is, if he says that Thor's amped it's valid. He can be wrong about Thor being in true Warrior Madness and still be right about Thor being stronger.

Don't remember for sure, but I'm pretty sure I remember it happening. Someone else watching might know more details though(so if anyone remembers the issue I'm thinking of chime in).

Sure it is. Thor being able to shatter his own hammer is an unquantifiable feat.

Did it actually say it was a Godblast? For some reason I was thinking that it didn't but I might be remembering wrong.

I'm pretty sure they are exaggerating a thing punch.

How is it? The godblast was so powerful a being that dwarfed a 2,000 foot celestial took notice.

It didn't say so in the book, but I've heard someone asked the writer way back when and he confirmed it was. Some of these icters have been around a long time and email and get into discussions with the writers.

In any event it was a powerful blast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He falsely assumed it was warrior's madness. How can you take the guy's word on something when he was certain it was warrior's madness when it clearly wasn't?

I'm pretty sure they are exaggerating a thing punch.

How is it? The godblast was so powerful a being that dwarfed a 2,000 foot celestial took notice.

It didn't say so in the book, but I've heard someone asked the writer way back when and he confirmed it was. Some of these icters have been around a long time and email and get into discussions with the writers.

In any event it was a powerful blast.

Everyone thought it was Warrior Madness, even Warlock who'd actually fought Thor in a state of Warrior Madness before thought so. Bill's assessment of Thor's strength stands though.

I doubt it. It seems like I've seen the actual scan but I can't remember much in the way of details about it. I'll PM leo though and see if I can get the issue number.

Not his normal GB. He can only pull of a GB like that with his belt. He doesn't have the belt in this thread so his max GB with the belt is meaningless.

Well that's nice and all, but he's never pulled off one like the one against the Celestials without the belt and writer's statements don't mean much outside their period of influence(assuming it really happened).

They're equals currently imo.

Thor, imo.

Wait wait wait wait.

Who is claiming that Thor used godblast on Durok?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Everyone thought it was Warrior Madness, even Warlock who'd actually fought Thor in a state of Warrior Madness before thought so. Bill's assessment of Thor's strength stands though.

I doubt it. It seems like I've seen the actual scan but I can't remember much in the way of details about it. I'll PM leo though and see if I can get the issue number.

Not his normal GB. He can only pull of a GB like that with his belt. He doesn't have the belt in this thread so his max GB with the belt is meaningless.

Well that's nice and all, but he's never pulled off one like the one against the Celestials without the belt and writer's statements don't mean much outside their period of influence(assuming it really happened).

He was wrong about the warrior madness so why take his word on him amping himself. He was nuts and talking to himself and nowhere in this story was he ever talked about receiving a powerup until he received the power gem. You're basing your entire case off of one character who was also incorrect about him having warrior madness saying he was drawing strength from somewhere let alone he meant it in a figurative way.

K, I'll be waiting.

That's the kind of power Thor contains anyways. Any godblast it seems is more powerful than any silver surfer blast anyways. 😂

The writer was making a statement about his period of influence.

I have never seen the interview, but it looked like a godblast to me without his hammer. Either way like I said it's more powerful than I have ever seen the Surfer do with one of his blasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was wrong about the warrior madness so why take his word on him amping himself. He was nuts and talking to himself and nowhere in this story was he ever talked about receiving a powerup until he received the power gem.

i agree with this. since it wasnt true warrior madness, thor didn't receive the 10x strength boost. all i can deduct is that he probably just stopped holding back. and the most likely boost he got before the power gem was an adrenaline rush or something.

which is why its very confusing to determine how powerful thor really is. when loco he beat the crap out of warlock and surfer at the same time and he also kicked the shit out of brb.

but base on his regular showings, he just matches surfer and brb in strength and power. makes me wonder if thor just holds back a lot "ala superman" or is stupidly written by dumbass writers and dumbed down a lot or is like superman, written to be as powerful or as stupidnly pathetic depending on the need of the story at hand.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i agree with this. since it wasnt true warrior madness, thor didn't receive the 10x strength boost. all i can deduct is that he probably just stopped holding back. and the most likely boost he got before the power gem was an adrenaline rush or something.

which is why its very confusing to determine how powerful thor really is. when loco he beat the crap out of warlock and surfer at the same time and he also kicked the shit out of brb.

but base on his regular showings, he just matches surfer and brb in strength and power. makes me wonder if thor just holds back a lot "ala superman" or is stupidly written by dumbass writers and dumbed down a lot or is like superman, written to be as powerful or as stupidnly pathetic depending on the need of the story at hand.

I dunno, overall I see them equal in a lot of aspects with Thor's Hammer in full use, although on the board SS would get more wins against other characters like Superman.

Some days I say Surfer, some days I say Thor.

Today I say Surfer...seeing as how Thor has lost a lot of his power trying to fix Mjolnir.

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Yes. 🙂

Originally posted by Lord S
Some days I say Surfer, some days I say Thor.

Today I say Surfer...seeing as how Thor has lost a lot of his power trying to fix Mjolnir.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's just back to classic levels.

or maybe not..didnt he say that he's also embraced his heritage from gaia his mother the elder earth godess?

plus, iron man also deducted that thor was stronger as compared to before, but thor said that he was just not holding back. maybe we'll be seeing thor's true power potential without the odinforce, or maybe not. here's hoping that we do 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he holds back a lot and would never ever be this aggressive when taking on a fellow hero like he was in blood and thunder.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It is not something Thor could replicate in a friendly battle...

It would be interesting to see Surfer in madness (showcase?) mode, especially since he often holds back to a fault. Even in B&T, when he stopped holding back, he was angry or frustrated, not 'mad'.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes. 🙂

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Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
or maybe not..didnt he say that he's also embraced his heritage from gaia his mother the elder earth godess?

plus, iron man also deducted that thor was stronger as compared to before, but thor said that he was just not holding back. maybe we'll be seeing thor's true power potential without the odinforce, or maybe not. here's hoping that we do 🙂

Originally posted by Mindship
It almost sounds like you're saying Thor can choose this level of ferocity. Isn't that madness-determined? As Kris B put it...
...though I'm not sure what 'friendly battle' means. Sparring? 😉

It would be interesting to see Surfer in madness (showcase?) mode, especially since he often holds back to a fault. Even in B&T, when he stopped holding back, he was angry or frustrated, not 'mad'.