YuLaw versus Neo....

Started by Alpha Centauri9 pages

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lacks objectivity? There's no gimping here, tell me, what's wrong with handicapping one combatant so that an inferior combatant is on on even field with them? Neo with all his powers pwns YuLaw without breaking a sweat, we all know that. Makes it more interesting if Neo can rely on this or that instead of all his shit.

And if you dont like the subject of a thread, then just dont post.

Because then what's the point? It's not Neo Vs YuLaw is it? Anyone can fight anyone if you give or take abilities away.

If you don't like the subject of posts, don't reply.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He's almost 40, Mon.

He can reply to his own posts. Cut the umbilical cord.

There's a difference between being mature and being uptight. You think that because I don't go around acting like a mentally handicapped individual, shouting out things that immature schoolboys do, that I'm somehow devoid of fun. That's your problem. That's what you and RJ do, see. To help yourself sleep with the fact that you act the way you do, you act like everyone else is being uptight and you two are the "fun" ones. There's no harm in embracing your inner silliness of humour if that works, but there comes a time (Like when you're 39) that you have to recognise that acting like a child isn't cool.

It's understandable, I just don't see why you'd do that.

You don't understand my point regarding the Matrix, and that's fine. As for the old thread, yeah. I'm closed-minded because I thought books should be kept out of a movie discussion forum. Shockingly mental.

Come back to me when you're ready to act your age, man. Any further replies will be deal with in PMs. Dadudemon loses interest in 3...2...1...

I've been barking up that tree for ages, he doesn't get it.

-AC

I started to do this:

But then this happened:

Then I woke up and read what you said and did this:

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because then what's the point? It's not Neo Vs YuLaw is it? Anyone can fight anyone if you give or take abilities away.

If you don't like the subject of posts, don't reply.

-AC

It's still Neo, just an altered version of Neo, to make the fight fair. It's like a point spread on a sporting bet, why do you think that is allowed? Survey says.......................One team at full strength is better than the other.

Right back atcha, if you don't like the subject of posts, dont reply. πŸ˜„

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's still Neo, just an altered version of Neo, to make the fight fair. It's like a point spread on a sporting bet, why do you think that is allowed? Survey says.......................One team at full strength is better than the other.

Right back atcha, if you don't like the subject of posts, dont reply. πŸ˜„

If the fight isn't fair, clearly they're incompatible.

Hence the point.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If the fight isn't fair, clearly they're incompatible.

Hence the point.

-AC

This is why we make the fight fair. This is why it is a rule here in the MVF.

You dont like the rules, boohoo, I guess we should all just call in sick tomorrow to work and spend the whole day trying to atone for causing your emo butthurt.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He's almost 40, Mon.

He can reply to his own posts. Cut the umbilical cord.

You referred to me multiple times in his post.

Cut the crap....and stop playing with it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There's a difference between being mature and being uptight. You think that because I don't go around acting like a mentally handicapped individual, shouting out things that immature schoolboys do, that I'm somehow devoid of fun.

No. You got that wrong.

It's because you go around acting like a shit storm of piss and vinegar, always thinking that you can berate and patronize every single poster you come across. That makes you immature.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's your problem.

No, it's KMC's problem.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's what you and RJ do, see.

My posts consist of very little immaturity. 😐

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
To help yourself sleep

I have sex with the wife. The end. 😐

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
with the fact that you act the way you do, you act like everyone else is being uptight...

Nope. That's deliberately false, on your part. It's almost always you, sir. 😐

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There's no harm in embracing your inner silliness of humour if that works, but there comes a time (Like when you're 39) that you have to recognise that acting like a child isn't cool.

This is retarded. You are clueless on what one is supposed to act like. If I want to know how to be a jerk on the internet, I'll ask for your advice.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's understandable, I just don't see why you'd do that.

20 serious posts and 1 goofy post. Yeah. WEIRD, man.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You don't understand my point regarding the Matrix, and that's fine. As for the old thread, yeah. I'm closed-minded because I thought books should be kept out of a movie discussion forum. Shockingly mental.

1. No, you want me to use your bastardized interpretation of The One and the matrix and it is you who does not understand my post.

2. Imp. gave us permission to use EU Luke. No matter how much of a fit you throw, he's the mod around these parts and he allowed it. End of.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Come back to me when you're ready to act your age, man. Any further replies will be deal with in PMs. Dadudemon loses interest in 3...2...1...

I said one silly thing, and the silliness was questionable. Sorry, you painting me as silly is an extremely failed attempt. Even if my points are presented in a silly way, it doesn't mean the points are wrong.

And any replies you send to me via PM will be replied to here, as long as it is on topic.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lacks objectivity? There's no gimping here, tell me, what's wrong with handicapping one combatant so that an inferior combatant is on on even field with them? Neo with all his powers pwns YuLaw without breaking a sweat, we all know that. Makes it more interesting if Neo can rely on this or that instead of all his shit.

And if you dont like the subject of a thread, then just dont post.

Yes, when you specifically gimp the more powerful opponent until he/she is weak enough they lose to the other, then it's clearly not objective, you're catering a scenario to the desired outcome. In this case, you wanted Neo (your verison of Neo, not the real one mind you) to lose to Yu Law.

What you did was in no way, shape or form "evening the field", friend. Might as well make a Superman Vs Swagger thread, but take away all of Superman's powers except for super-hearing and insist it's fair and objective, when it clearly isn't.

Ha, no. I'll continue to point out your gimping threads when I see them, don't take it personal.

The rest was off topic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. No, you want me to use your bastardized interpretation of The One and the matrix and it is you who does not understand my post.

2. Imp. gave us permission to use EU Luke. No matter how much of a fit you throw, he's the mod around these parts and he allowed it. End of.

It really wasn't, but it's demeaning to have to explain how the Matrix works to a 26 year old.

In PMs he clearly stated he was gonna stop it, that it wasn't part of the forum and that it wouldn't be allowed. He said this to me, hence the locking of the thread.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I said one silly thing, and the silliness was questionable. Sorry, you painting me as silly is an extremely failed attempt. Even if my points are presented in a silly way, it doesn't mean the points are wrong.

I'm not painting you as anything, you do that for me.

When you choose to present any point in a madly immature, stupid and troll-based demeanour, you don't deserve to have them taken seriously, even if they are.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

It's still Neo, just an altered version of Neo, to make the fight fair. It's like a point spread on a sporting bet, why do you think that is allowed? Survey says.......................One team at full strength is better than the other.

So this altered Neo is basically him without flight ability and full strength?

So how much strength does he get?...The same as YuLaw?...If so then he wins on the basis of superior speed and skill (doesn't get more skilled than being programmed to be a master of every martial art ever known)

We can see his level of speed when fighting Smith in M1 before he's even gotten anywhere near his full potential...Take Smith's speed by comparison in the subway fight when he's punching Neo against the wall and his hands go into super speed.

Then compare that with them fighting at the end of M1 when Neo doesn't even have to look at Smith and ends up fighting him off with 1 hand.

Clearly shows that Neo is far faster than YuLaw is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, when you specifically gimp the more powerful opponent until he/she is weak enough they lose to the other, then it's clearly not objective, you're catering a scenario to the desired outcome. In this case, you wanted Neo (your verison of Neo, not the real one mind you) to lose to Yu Law.

What you did was in no way, shape or form "evening the field", friend. Might as well make a Superman Vs Swagger thread, but take away all of Superman's powers except for super-hearing and insist it's fair and objective, when it clearly isn't.

Ha, no. I'll continue to point out your gimping threads when I see them, don't take it personal.

I set this fight up genuinely thinking they were on even ground, or close to. Thats all.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I set this fight up genuinely thinking they were on even ground, or close to. Thats all.

A normal human with just an insane level of martial arts skill and some strength Vs a guy who can move so fast bullets slow down in comparison and who can swing around two motorcycles like baseball bats, is fair? Come on.

Originally posted by Robtard
A normal human with just an insane level of martial arts skill Vs a guy who can move so fast bullets slow down in comparison and who can swing around two motorcycles like baseball bats, is fair? Come on.
OK then, make it fair? Help me out?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK then, make it fair? Help me out?

That defeats the purpose.

We know Neo at full power defeats Yu Law at full power, so gimping Neo "until it's fair" isn't fair, as we can gimp Neo until he stalemates or loses. Just depends on who you want to win.

Man, forget it haermm Hard as oak, that head of yours.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK then, make it fair? Help me out?

It's actually like talking to a brick wall when talking to you.

People have been telling you why it doesn't work, and yet, somehow I'm the only one with the problem according to you.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's actually like talking to a brick wall when talking to you.

People have been telling you why it doesn't work, and yet, somehow I'm the only one with the problem according to you.

-AC

It works if you open yourself to it, if you have a slight imagination. It's done all the time in various threads here, you know.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Man, forget it haermm Hard as oak, that head of yours.

You're essentially asking me to gimp Neo until he loses to a much weaker guy, or can lose. I ask again, what is the point? <---do answer that, please.

Here, Neo has no powers and is passed out Vs Yu Law with the power of Neo (in the Matrix) at x2 the power, or we can just call him Yu 'The Two' Law. There, Neo loses.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're essentially asking me to gimp Neo until he loses, or can lose to a weaker opponent.

I ask again, what is the point?

Here, Neo has no powers and is passed out Vs Yu Law with the power of Neo (in the Matrix) at x2 the power, or we can just call him Yu 'The Two' Law. There, Neo loses.

No, I am asking you to help me out making the fight as fair as possible. I'm not a huge fan of either character.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, I am asking you to help me out making the fight as fair as possible. I'm not a huge fan of either character.

And I ask what is the point of that? Just answer me that.

We know Neo stomps Law, so gimping Neo until he can lose or to the point where he can barely pull a win can easily be done; it also lacks all objectivity. If I want Neo to lose to Law, he'll lose, if I want Neo to win, but not in a stomp, he'll do so, obviosly.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, I am asking you to help me out making the fight as fair as possible. I'm not a huge fan of either character.

Surely the better idea would be to just pick 2 characters who, on the basis of all their respective movie feats, would be an even match.

Otherwise you can end up with ridiculous match ups with stupid criteria.

Example: Superman vs Walter Sobchek in a fight to the death outside the bowling alley except Walter Sobchek is 100ft tall and shoots nuclear weapons from his eyes and is invulnerable to everything in the universe and Superman has none of his powers as well as having no arms of legs and he can't see cos his eyes have melted and he has physical and metal retardation to due a horse riding accident.

Who wins?

And how much would Neo have to be gimped for YuLaw to win, in your opinion?