Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman won't have to worry about any stiffness based no his physiology and massive muscular and cardiovascular advantages. Military training does focus on h2h, just more meat and potatoes and more brutal.
He still has to worry about stiffness as in unnececary tensing of the muscles, something just about all untrained people do. One detail out of hundreds. And I know about military training, I used to be an infantry sergeant.
Spiderman may move around a lot (part of his style) but so does every other comic character as well, if we look at their stats and bios and read their comics, we'll see they don't apply these "godly skills" like they are stated to most of the time. They really just do haymakers.
Cap is a good example of using his skill throwing a good haymaker. The reason he hits ungawdly HARD for a peak human is he got nearly perfect basics. MA is not about ungawdly techniques, it is about refining basics. Course in comics some can throw fireballs too..
I do believe that mastery takes time and that your basics improve, but with Spiderman's physical ability it wouldn't take long, it didn't take me long either and before hand I was more than a match for most in my class on physical ability alone without using much of it or any previous know-how.
Actually it is harder for people with super attributes to master the basics. It is way too easy just to rely on your speed or strength to do the job. A good student will improve faster than others tho.
I was just thinking about brain surgery, odd huh. The comparison is more like a person who has done surgeries without any training, and are more effective than the person who hasn't gone to the fancy school in the end.
True but he needs to study it first. If not he`ll spend a lifetime recreating medical science from scratch. Spidey has still not gotten the basics in any meaningful sense.
Spiderman's style is unorthodox and harder to predict. Makes up for lack of "MA" training.
He still has not learned to mask his body language, Bats would read his moves like an open book.
But furthermore MA training isn't directly equal to fighting skill. It can be several things, but it isn't all combat.
Agreed. However if you train with a good instructor with the purpose of improving your fighting skill, it will be "pressure tested" to make sure it works. Nothing can totally prepare you for the first "real" fight however.
There's a whole other discussion about how I feel about McDojo's and how a lot of the people training at them don't know what they are talking about.
McDojos are a sad thing.
1. the ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well: Carpentry was one of his many skills.
2. competent excellence in performance; expertness; dexterity: The dancers performed with skill.
I see. I usually think of a style as a system of fighting defined by a few central concepts.
Since spiderman has great dexterity and has had much knowledge, fighting, pracitce, and aptidues in thousands of fights, I'm sure he has to have some skill, especially considering many of the people he fight overpower him in some way.
He is alive because of his speed, agility and spider sense. Sure he has some hard earned skills but they are not anywhere near where they could be. There are masters of hand to hand combat that could teach him. He looses to a lot of MAists because their skill more than compensates for him being stronger etc.