Originally posted by RobtardAnd I guess the fact that Hiller was able to evade the alien fighter in ID4 means nothing? That alien craft was every bit as maneuverable as IM and SS.
Opening said F-14 and F-18, but okay, F-22 it is.Let me get this straight, all vehicles have the same max speed here, the F-22s are trying to run away and IM, SS, Vader and Jango are chasing them?
Then like I said above, IM and SS are more maneuverable and can react quicker, so they're going to cut the distance, close-in and fire. I'd imagine Vader's and Jango's spacecraft are more maneuverable than far less advanced Earth tech.
Originally posted by Robtard
Opening said F-14 and F-18, but okay, F-22 it is.Let me get this straight, all vehicles have the same max speed here, the F-22s are trying to run away and IM, SS, Vader and Jango are chasing them?
Then like I said above, IM and SS are more maneuverable and can react quicker, so they're going to cut the distance, close-in and fire. I'd imagine Vader's and Jango's spacecraft are more maneuverable than far less advanced Earth tech too.
So I'd probably come down to SS out-classing them all, since he is the ****ing plane and isn't controlling it, so he reaches them first and destroys all four.
Yeah, just another gimpage/revision that RJ bought in again due to the rule ammendment he cried so very long and so very hard to get bought in at the time of the Hogwarts Vs Jedi-Clones thread.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And I guess the fact that Hiller was able to evade the alien fighter in ID4 means nothing? That alien craft was every bit as maneuverable as IM and SS.
Hiller also crashed, now didn't he.
SS is the ****ing plane, he isn't controlling it. He's going to out-class everyone, cut the distance first and kill himself some F-22. /the end
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthHe ran out of fuel 🙄 If he still had fuel, he would have utilized the chute and escaped.
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr did he lose his plane in the only move that would work, once he realised he couldnt shake the alien off...?(Rhetorical question, in case you hadnt guessed)
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Actually, since I made the thread and they are all flying F22's that can go the same speed, yeah, it is my decision. It does change it, at least in this thread.
Why would Iron Man fly an F-22? "They are ALL flying F-22s".
Also, Starscream doesn't FLY one nor is he one, technically.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He ran out of fuel 🙄 If he still had fuel, he would have utilized the chute and escaped.
Yeah he burned up his fuel running like a little girl. 😐
So he managed to shoot down the ID alien ship...?
Nope. He failed to and got very lucky against something that Starscream would rip apart in seconds.
Rest assured that SS will not be running out of fuel.
Re: Hiller, Iceman and Maverick.....
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Iceman, Maverick and Cpt. Steven Hiller are on patrol one day and run across this dogfight:http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t511446.html
Hiller, piloting his F/A-18 Hornet, is in command of Maverick and Iceman, who are piloting their F-14's with Slider and Goose. Hiller sees the alien craft and orders a retreat before the 4 way dogfight combatants see them.
Too late.
Ironman, Jango, Star scream and Vader, all at once, turn their attention to Hiller and his two wingmen.
Hiller, Iceman and Maverick are on the run. They are over a vast desert, with narrow canyons all around. Can they escape and report back to base?
To make things fair, all aircraft here have the same top speed, all are fully fueled and armed, and there are no shields.
WHy are you saying Vader cant use the force. YOU LITERALLY didnt say he couldnt..
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hiller fared pretty good as he flew through the canyons.
You're also realizing that they were doing training in Top Gun right. And that none of them were considered "Top Gun" until the end right? Even if you want to count them at the end of the movie, they still do not compare to Vader's piloting skills period. ALl three put together dont equal up to Vader. And to add Iron Man and Starscream is just ****ing overkill. You can say that team Top Gun starts out ahead thats fine. Let them. THat would just be even easier for the other team to bring them down. You also gotta realize the Jets they're using are way outdated to today's technology. Dont say no they're not because I can assure you, that you know nothing about military weaponry or aircraft besides what you read on Wikipedia. Im not trying to start shit but im also just saying dont go there. Back to the point. This thread was just a bad idea. I know you thought it'd be interesting but its not even though you severely gimped them. It's still not. Team Top Gun all die. And that's the end of it.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But the human pilots being human, and all, couldnt fly them to the same degree that SS can.Ye cannae change the laws of physics, cap'n.
See, I can agree with this. This would be factually correct.
Even if we limit SS to just F-22 abilities, he will still outclass them in the fact that he has a much better computer, can maneuver the plane better than any human pilot can because he would remove the inhibitors, and probably has better weapons due to being a Transformer.
However, in the films. As the F-22s approached the city, they would have easily identified all targets and taken them out, before any one in the city, transformers included, could have made visual contact.
StarScream would have taken a high yeild, super missile and been down for the count.
Sabo rounds were affected for their heat. Missiles get much hotter when the explode.
That's why SS may still be used........
maybe....
If he's distracted, the F-22s in the real world, might stand a chance of taking him out.
Okay. I've had 5 PM's from 3 people about this. Let me see if I have this straight:
Sadako says: RJ is not adhering to MVF rule #7 by changing the scenarios of the fight/race in mid-thread.
AC says: Spite.
RJ says: Who would win in this survival race? The humans in their fighter jets, or the other team?
Am I right?
Just to chime in, here is my opinion on the thread, thus far:
All three human pilots are blown to shit. Starscream is an alien robot who can travel through f*cking space. There is no G-Force factor with him, I imagine, since he, apparently, is not affected by inertia. At least, not in the cognizant sense, I presume. Iron Man has superior air agility and some pretty heinous firepower (one lil' rocket blew up a tank and his Uni-beam conquers.), and, personally, I really don't feel the need to even mention the other two contenders.
I would greatly appreciate it if ALL 3 of you (Sadako, AC, and RJ) would respond to this query. Not in PM Land, I mean. Just quote me and post it here.