Kain runs a Gauntlet

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
How does it not make sense? The greater the distance you have separated your body in any different form would have to make it harder to pull yourself back together. Its like Sandman, he can only maintain control when each particle of sand is still within a specific distance.

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Right, silly me. Fog doesn't disappear, I forgot. I could have just looked out my window and taken a look at the fog that's been there since the day I was born if I needed a reminder.

A mind controller more powerful than MewTwo...no.

Yeah, but he hasn't demonstrated an ability to reform by mist after having a limb severed. There's no reason to believe he can since that limb would be separated, and as such he cannot turn it to mist. And no, it's not like saying that at all. It's like saying that I can maintain mental control over a limb that no longer has contact with my brain.

You still have not made a specific argument or reason for it to make a diffrence, the mist is still kain, if it can even be blown apart at all its illogical that it would suddenly lose this property, especially since Kain exists outside of his being anyway as a soul like all vampires.

Its not technically disapeared, simply moved....in Kains case, he moves his own mist.

M2 has so far not mind controlled anyone other than a young woman....

Its nothing like saying that, because Kains brain is irrelvent, his spiritual control is all thats relevent, and havnig his physical form in lets say, several places at once like the instance with the mist means little to the spirit which would not suddenly depart. Kain can seperate his mist and exist while doing so, the limb itself being seperated is the same if not better than kain being seperated by himself and turned into mist particles in the first place.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You still have not made a specific argument or reason for it to make a diffrence, the mist is still kain, if it can even be blown apart at all its illogical that it would suddenly lose this property, especially since Kain exists outside of his being anyway as a soul like all vampires.

Its not technically disapeared, simply moved....in Kains case, he moves his own mist.

M2 has so far not mind controlled anyone other than a young woman....

Its nothing like saying that, because Kains brain is irrelvent, his spiritual control is all thats relevent, and havnig his physical form in lets say, several places at once like the instance with the mist means little to the spirit which would not suddenly depart. Kain can seperate his mist and exist while doing so, the limb itself being seperated is the same if not better than kain being seperated by himself and turned into mist particles in the first place.

I just facepalmed in real life. He has no proof that he can reform when his body is separated farther than the few inches it took to get through all these spaces. Saying there's no reason to believe he can't defies all logic but yours.

Right. It's mixed with regular air to the point where its been so separated that it isn't fog anymore. It's mixed to a point where Kain can't prove he would have any control over his form anymore if he were the fog.

Your point? The Strength of MewTwo's mind is spoken for through all of his psychic abilities. He'd have no problem mind controlling anyone. He doesn't have to anyway, Kain cannot escape his TK, a mindwipe, or even get through any Barrier MewTwo has.

Has Kain ever demonstrated any control over a severed limb? Has it been stated that he could still control a severed limb?

This is still irrelevant, as the team of Spartans can and will separate Kain's mist form, removing his only defense. And Kain has no way to hurt them.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I just facepalmed in real life. He has no proof that he can reform when his body is separated farther than the few inches it took to get through all these spaces. Saying there's no reason to believe he can't defies all logic but yours.

Right. It's mixed with regular air to the point where its been so separated that it isn't fog anymore. It's mixed to a point where Kain can't prove he would have any control over his form anymore if he were the fog.

Your point? The Strength of MewTwo's mind is spoken for through all of his psychic abilities. He'd have no problem mind controlling anyone. He doesn't have to anyway, Kain cannot escape his TK, a mindwipe, or even get through any Barrier MewTwo has.

Has Kain ever demonstrated any control over a severed limb? Has it been stated that he could still control a severed limb?

This is still irrelevant, as the team of Spartans can and will separate Kain's mist form, removing his only defense. And Kain has no way to hurt them.

I just chuckled and rolled my eyes in real life, because your not making any clear argument, theres no logical reasoning behind him not being able to reform from meters away if hes already shown he can reform and move through obstacles that already seperate him, the fact their more seperated makes no logical diffrence.

Thing is, this does not happen to Kains form at all, its a supernatural form that despite canonically being out in light does not suddenly evaporate.

Sorry but the strength of M2 mind is known, thing is strength of mind does not make up for what he can do with it, which is shown by feats, so far theres not a single feat showing he can mind control more than a young girl which<<<<<small armies of soldiers and priests which means Kain is>>>M2 mind powers. It seems to me M2 will be the one who is Mind controlled or destroyed by other means, his powers do not have fast enough to stop Kains every movement.

irrelvent, thats like me asking if M2 has ever used Psy powers on a vampire, pointless question. Hes shown to be able to dissolve his entire body into a gas and move it around, change its form and reform again, this means the fact one of his legs is in a diffrent place than it usually is has no baring on his powers.

Spartans are going to remove mist? lol you made me "chuckle in real life!"...stop blabbering wally, the Spartans die at eachothers hands or their own weapons turned on them or they die of old age, theyll never touch Kain.

Wait, is BT honestly suggesting Kain could beat MewTwo? haermm

Mewtwo could beat Kain with a thought 😱

Originally posted by Burning thought
I just chuckled and rolled my eyes in real life, because your not making any clear argument, theres no logical reasoning behind him not being able to reform from meters away if hes already shown he can reform and move through obstacles that already seperate him, the fact their more seperated makes no logical diffrence.

Thing is, this does not happen to Kains form at all, its a supernatural form that despite canonically being out in light does not suddenly evaporate.

Sorry but the strength of M2 mind is known, thing is strength of mind does not make up for what he can do with it, which is shown by feats, so far theres not a single feat showing he can mind control more than a young girl which<<<<<small armies of soldiers and priests which means Kain is>>>M2 mind powers. It seems to me M2 will be the one who is Mind controlled or destroyed by other means, his powers do not have fast enough to stop Kains every movement.

irrelvent, thats like me asking if M2 has ever used Psy powers on a vampire, pointless question. Hes shown to be able to dissolve his entire body into a gas and move it around, change its form and reform again, this means the fact one of his legs is in a diffrent place than it usually is has no baring on his powers.

Spartans are going to remove mist? lol you made me "chuckle in real life!"...stop blabbering wally, the Spartans die at eachothers hands or their own weapons turned on them or they die of old age, theyll never touch Kain.

Like I said, it defies all logic except yours.

I highlighted every bit of your failed logic.

Fact 1) Mist form never survived any serious displacement or extreme heat.

Fact 2) Everything MewTwo can do shows the strength of his mind, as psychic powers rely on the minds power. If your mind is not strong enough to TK a rock the size of a house, you will not TK said rock.

Fact 3) Kain cannot get around a mind wipe. And Mist form doesn't help as MewTwo can TK that as well. Kain cannot hurt MewTwo or the Spartans.

Fact 4) Your logic fails.

The Spartans likely can't harm themselves since their armor is incredibly durable.

The force from a grenade explosion or the heat from a plasma pistol ought to separate mist enough. There's even a Plasma grenade.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Like I said, it defies all logic except yours.

I highlighted every bit of your failed logic.

Fact 1) Mist form never survived any serious displacement or extreme heat.

Fact 2) Everything MewTwo can do shows the strength of his mind, as psychic powers rely on the minds power. If your mind is not strong enough to TK a rock the size of a house, you will not TK said rock.

Fact 3) Kain cannot get around a mind wipe. And Mist form doesn't help as MewTwo can TK that as well. Kain cannot hurt MewTwo or the Spartans.

Fact 4) I have no logic

The Spartans likely can't harm themselves since their armor is incredibly durable.

The force from a grenade explosion or the heat from a plasma pistol ought to separate mist enough. There's even a Plasma grenade.

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1) does not need to

2) No, if your psychic/TK strength/skill over said power is not strong enough, your mind will not lift it, no matter how developed or skilled a human mind is it will never lift so much as a pebal.

3) false, not a fact at all, merely your own foolish garble because all Kain has to do is turn into mist and he would escape mind wipe unless you can show me M2 capable of entering the mind of a being without a brain at the time not that its relevent, technically Kains brain does not work so his physical brain is not a weakpoint.

4) I corrected this so called fact

lol? you dont even know anything about Spartans, stop trolling this thread or ill report.

both mentioned weapons would also kill their owners when kain Mind controls or inspires hates them.

MewTwo can fight ghoist types who have no physical form with his psychic moves, just sayin'.

regular gunfire as far as I remember just bounces off of the spartan armor & plasma weapon is not in their standard equipment at all.

then again I don't know what he meant by fully equiped.

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
MewTwo can fight ghoist types who have no physical form with his psychic moves, just sayin'.

Show me this

well considering all psychic pokemon can hit ghost types ermm

no prove Ghost Pokemon they are as ethereal as their name suggests then show me M2 mind wiping or mind altering them to prove your point.

Fighting and normal moves go through ghost pokemon doing no damage. They are still susceptible to hypnosis, confuse ray, psychic, confusion, psybeam, psycho cut.. ect. Basicly everything MewTwo does effect them, despite their lack of physical form.

Hell, ghost pokemon are actually considered ghosts in the pokemon verse. Ghastly and such are supposed to be the spirits of dead pokemon.

ghost types can't be touched by physical attacks unless they have been identified by foresight. mewtwo can simply use sunny day and evaporate kain if he goes to mist form.

Originally posted by SuperLuigi
ghost types can't be touched by physical attacks unless they have been identified by foresight. mewtwo can simply use sunny day and evaporate kain if he goes to mist form.

I don't think the sun could evaporate him that fast unless Kain stays in that form.

True though that Ghosts can't be hit. They are a bit redundant. They are weak against ground attacks, yet they have that one special latent skill that nulls all ground attacks.

only ghastly haunter and gengar are weak against ground because of their poison 2ndary type. ghost is weak against it poison is.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Fighting and normal moves go through ghost pokemon doing no damage. They are still susceptible to hypnosis, confuse ray, psychic, confusion, psybeam, psycho cut.. ect. Basicly everything MewTwo does effect them, despite their lack of physical form.

Hell, ghost pokemon are actually considered ghosts in the pokemon verse. Ghastly and such are supposed to be the spirits of dead pokemon.

So your talking gameplay mechanics then by the sounds of it? 😬

And gastly according to:

http://www.pokemondb.co.uk/pokedex/gastly

Is suspectable to fire, water, etc...so much for being ethereal, these are physical forces so obviously being classed as a ghost pokemon has little to do with anything, psychic simply does more damage than usual in gameplay.

physical meaning touching, as in counter would be a defense against it. pokemon snap shows the ghosts disappearing through objects meaning ghosts can be ethereal or not by their own choosing.

Or the pokemon are Ethereal and can be hurt by energy attacks just like any ethereal creature in any fiction. Psychic attacks happen to be good at it. Kain has no way of defending himself from MewTwo, who can TK his freaking mist form, disable him, tear him apart, strike him down with a shadow ball, disperse him, turn him to stone, paralyze him, put him to sleep, ect.