Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIn spite of comics, mythology and history. Asgardians should be able to or should be doing that which they've never been shown to do. Things that ignore the comics, history and mythology.
Okay, I'm to lazy to read through 5 pages.Exactly what's the argument here?
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
No, not necessarily. It would mostly depend on how long they've had to go at it.
Yeah but alot of humans superheroes are actually better than Thor at martial arts. Logically Thor should be better but hes not. That logic of time doesnt neccesarily apply to comics.
I will say this though I saw scans of a depowered Thor fighting with Cap, got to admit Thor looked very good as well.
edit: figthing with = alongside not against.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah but alot of humans superheroes are actually better than Thor at martial arts. Logically Thor should be better but hes not. That logic of time doesnt neccesarily apply to comics.I will say this though I saw scans of a depowered Thor fighting with Cap, got to admit Thor looked very good as well.
Thor showed more than enough skills when he was depowered in the world engine. And he was arguably weaker than Cap at the time.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah but alot of humans superheroes are actually better than Thor at martial arts. Logically Thor should be better but hes not. That logic of time doesnt neccesarily apply to comics.I will say this though I saw scans of a depowered Thor fighting with Cap, got to admit Thor looked very good as well.
edit: figthing with = alongside not against.
Originally posted by Doctor-AlvisIf it doesn't have to do with comics or real mythology at all like you say, then why are you discussing it here?
I didn't say anything about Thor. Thor started it but the basis of my argument has nothing to do with Thor directly. I'm not commenting on Thor's hand to hand skills or any other mythical character. It's not some ruse to get people to admit anything about anything in the comics or real life mythology. It's a completely stand alone thing. Links can be implied, yes, but it was not my intention for them to be made.
Originally posted by Creshosk
If it doesn't have to do with comics or real mythology at all like you say, then why are you discussing it here?
I can't be that hard to follow. This is one of the reasons I don't hang around in the msn get togethers.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I didn't say anything about Thor. Thor started it but the basis of my argument has nothing to do with Thor directly. I'm not commenting on Thor's hand to hand skills or any other mythical character. It's not some ruse to get people to admit anything about anything in the comics or real life mythology. It's a completely stand alone thing. Links can be implied, yes, but it was not my intention for them to be made.
Yes I understand that Thor is just and example of the sort of thing you were talking about.
That vikings in the real world created the norse gods doesn't mean anything in marvel, where the gods were actual entities and the vikings misinterpreted them... there is no logic in marvel behind them having a viking-based style. And even then, vikings would not have a stagnant style as being seafarers they were constantly encountering new types of foes they had to adapt to.
Originally posted by King KandyWell that certainly ignores history.
That vikings in the real world created the norse gods doesn't mean anything in marvel, where the gods were actual entities and the vikings misinterpreted them... there is no logic in marvel behind them having a viking-based style. And even then, vikings would not have a stagnant style as being seafarers they were constantly encountering new types of foes they had to adapt to.
I think it goes to show how crappy people in the past were if they thought of gods that sucked as much as they do. Maybe summoning lightning and eating pigs is as far as you needed to be a god back then but if I ever invent gods they would be soooo much cooler.
Edit: In 300 years they'll be like "The Alvian gods were based on Alvis and Alvis didn't know **** about martial arts" and somebody else would be like "Here, I have a post right here that says one of them is half spider and half tiger and can outgrapple time itself."
Originally posted by Creshosk
Well that certainly ignores history.
In marvel, Thor predated the vikings. In real life, he was a creation of theirs.
Originally posted by King KandyAnd since the comics don't display what the lot of you (minus alvis, because in case you didn't notice he keeps sasying he's not talking about the comics) are saying, then I'm afraid the argument stems from nothing more than fan fantasy.
Yes, marvel comics does in fact use a different history than the real world. I'm glad we've reached this conclusion. I was losing hope of ever seeing the mighty thor with my own eyes... finally I realized he was a fictional character.In marvel, Thor predated the vikings. In real life, he was a creation of theirs.