Originally posted by truejedi
Wouldn't have to rival the master's to give luke the piddling amount of trouble he recieved from Rhea though. Rhea simply had to be competent, not a no name. An unknown perhaps, but not a no-name. Johun is a no-name. Rhea is... Undefinable as of yet.
There is actually. 100 percent of the evidence we have of Rhea's abilities points to her being powerful. She fought a duel decently well with Luke Skywalker. So there is that. That is all we have, and its impressive. Unless you are dismissing the feat with a preconceived notion of her abilities. you have to give her that. I could tell you there is no reason to think she ISN'T powerful, based on what we have see so far.
I'm fairly certain too, but i knew what I] meant when i agreed with him, and that was good enough for me.And yes it would. Did i not just go through this with you?
Yoda is the most powerful Jedi of his generation.
Luke is the most powerful Jedi of his generation.Luke is also the most powerful jedi of any generation, but he definitly qualifies (and overqualifies) for the Yoda of his generation remark. [/B]
The fact that he mentioned Windu in the same category of Yoda and Luke means that he's claiming Luke is just the best of his generation. Otherwise the comparisons wouldn't be valid.
oh, and DS, lest you forget, Ship ignored the 1 sith, and instead went and sought out the Tribe. Ship calls Vestera powerful in the force. There are 3 or 4 instances where Vestera admits that Rhea is more powerful than her. (She would be dead without Rhea's protection from Xal admissions)
There is the beginning of an argument here to make a claim that the Tribe is decently strong in the force. Not enough to nail it down yet, but the hinting at it.
If Vestera proves a worthy opponent for Luke and ben later on, it will only strengthen the claim. I suspect she will too, i'm yet to see an author take several books to set up a character and then kill them in a single sentence.
EDIT: And i never compared Rhea to the ancient Sith. Or even hinted at it. I simply contended that she can't be dismissed as a no name.
Originally posted by truejedi
oh, and DS, lest you forget, Ship ignored the 1 sith, and instead went and sought out the Tribe. Ship calls Vestera powerful in the force. There are 3 or 4 instances where Vestera admits that Rhea is more powerful than her. (She would be dead without Rhea's protection from Xal admissions)
There is the beginning of an argument here to make a claim that the Tribe is decently strong in the force. Not enough to nail it down yet, but the hinting at it.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Well, this isn't really fair. I mean, this is a new story arc. (Right?)
Originally posted by truejediCombat skills that are supposedly top priority.. seeing that the never actually faced a true sith or a true jedi opponent outside their planet.
once again, why whore?
And your 5000 years comment is ridiculous. You are assuming the Tribe is weak simply because it is new THAT is a fallacy. The Sith have one of the most cut-throat societies we have ever heard of. Xal spends the entire book waiting for Rhea to make a mistake so he can kill her. You talk about a society where combat skill would be a top priority.
Originally posted by truejediNow, if she would lose to sidious, vader , galen and bane, how is she able to put up a fight against luke skywalker?
That being said: I have no problem with her losing to all the people you named. All of those have more combat feats than she does. However, she would still count as a powerful opponent if she was on the Lumiya, Lomi, Shimrra, Alema Rar level. We don't have enough info to rule out that possibility. I don't claim she is as strong as Luke. I merely claim that she was strong enough to give Luke a good fight, based on her own merit. Not because of any knock against Luke. I mean, Shimrra wasn't all that powerful, and not even force sensitive, BUT he still almost killed Luke. So Rhea being at that level in order to give luke a good fight is hardly absurd thinking. Its calling her a no name that i don't understand. She just put up a decent fight against Luke skywalker. She can't be an absolute Johun Othune level nobody.
I simply believe luke isn't at his best at that fight.
I dislike these new people because i don't consider them the "real sith" or the "true sith" like revan , vader , sidious and basically the entire sith order before them, these are just lackeys to the real sith, pretenders and sheer ignorance to whats happening in the galaxy hence why i show no interest of reading the pathetic fillers in the FOTJ book about these "sith".
I told this to Gideon as well. I agree that this Lost Tribe is a pathetic excuse for a filler, but I guess the authors needed another enemy outside of Abeloth. However, Gideon DID bring to my attention the fact that they were considered sith by the ancient sith, regardless of their low status on the totem pole, so by definition they are sith. Now are they the deserving sith like the characters you mentioned? No way.
Originally posted by truejedi
i don't understand Lumiya myself. How did she end up a Sith? Who was her master?Another question: Do any of the comics let us know how long the One Sith have been hiding on Korriban? Do they predate Sidious's reign?
No man, haven't you read the comics? A'sharad Hett was a bounty hunter who crash landed on Korriban and found Xoxaan's holocron. He studied for some time pretending to be a sith hoping to exact revenge on Vader and Palpatine. When he emerged he realized they were already dead and he went into the unknown regions. There he was captured by the Vong and put in the embrace of pain, which gave him a vision for a new sith order. He began the order around 28-30BBY..
Lumiya was nothing more than an Emperor's hand.
Everyone keeps briginning Galen up - is it due to his power or his savage fighting style [Juyo]? Rhea would put up one hell of a fight, but probably would lose. Vestara sad to say would be butchered. After all, this kid was trained by Vader.
Back to the point, The Tribe probably is not from the Ancient Sith. The Tribe certainly doesn't have the power Naga Sadow. Nowhere in the books does it mention they have knowledge of Korriban or Lehon or Ziost. They seem more like a . . . um . . . nobility based. The Sith I've learned don't place much emphasis on luxary. And what happened to the Rule of Two? Why have the writers 'seemed' to foget it?