Full Phoenix force Vs, Mad Jim Jaspers

Jaspers wins.

Originally posted by the Darkone
MJJ wins the majority.

It's funny that other than GS no one even tries to back up Phoenix.

id used to

xplosive does too

MJJ is a omniverse threat, even Merilyn can't defeat him using the Celestial nullifier didn't even phase him, and it erases universe.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425758

#3 MJJ

#9 White Crown Phoenix

A fan made ranking isn't exactly proof.

Originally posted by the Darkone
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425758

#3 MJJ

#9 White Crown Phoenix

Yeh because that is 100% true and fact, right 🙄

Originally posted by Mindset
A fan made ranking isn't exactly proof.

Go through the whole thread, there is much evidence for all the characters on there it will take some time.

MJJ is omniverse wrecker, WCP hasn't really hasn't done anything yet, I said yet. 😉

Originally posted by Mindset
A fan made ranking isn't exactly proof.

Originally posted by Mindset

evidence how powerful certain characters are! The site has proof unless you want to show some of your own.

Missing the point.

Originally posted by Mindset
id used to

xplosive does too

I still do. 😮

Marvel is very inconsistent with Phoenix Force. I mean EMP blowing it in pieces. It's a joke. I don't take it seriously, although it's a canon. Then you have Dark Phoenix mentioned that rivals Galactus and in the end Watcher clearly say Dark Phoenix was only second to the creator.
Then again you have low showings and high showings.
You also have Galactus seeing that seemingly could erase Phoenix Force from existence, which I think its crap.
In Ultimate Universe Phoenix Force is said that is the one that created life, universe, sun, stars, planets in it... That was also more times mentioned in 616 by being the big bang. You have Phoenix Force mentioned as a big bang by Reed Richards. Watcher also said that Phoenix Force is the fire the ignites the creation and the final fire that consumes it. Then comes here Alien Entity.
Probably writers themselves are confused by Phoenix Force.
And Phoenixes Forces in other universes are just one infinitely small pieces of the full Phoenix Force that have its job in that universe, that's why different hosts from different universes in White Hot Room. It seems that Jean Grey, White Phoenix of the Crown is the full Phoenix Force and its full power.

And you have WPOTC that it seems can easily manipulate with universes.

I don't know what would happen between MJJ and Pheonix Force. Many will say MJJ will win. I would like to say Phoenix Force wins, but MJJ was enormous power. But I think if needed that Phoenix Force is one of those who could take MJJ out.

Originally posted by Peterlane
He has no imagination though. Just look at his fight with the Fury, he could have just made him not exist, instead he turned him into a ball....LOL

I'm going to assume by this that you'd didn't read the story.

MJJ blinks the PF out of existence.

Then re-makes his own PF to warm up his marshmellows.

Phoenix (any version/incarnation) has no chance in hell against MJJ (238 or 616)

Originally posted by Mr Master
MJJ blinks the PF out of existence.

Then re-makes his own PF to warm up his marshmellows.

Phoenix (any version/incarnation) has no chance in hell against MJJ (238 or 616)

hmm so MJJ is that powerful huh?
how do you think he would do against Abraxas?

Originally posted by galactusischere

hmm so MJJ is that powerful huh?

Originally posted by galactusischere

how do you think he would do against Abraxas?

The LT may be the only concept outside his power.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.

Abraxas is the conceptual manifestation of an abstract idea in physical form, (destruction)
MJJ remakes concepts for breakfast.

The LT may be the only concept outside his power.

really doesn't make sense how a mere mutant has powers greater than abstracts that are each billions of years old.

I agree though

Read X-Men: Forever and Beyond! that'll help you understand.