Full Phoenix force Vs, Mad Jim Jaspers

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Phoenix should undeniably win this match. Unless members are sold on the Omniversal hype/potential. From what was seen, Mad Jim Jaspers at best manipulated a universe. While, Phoenix’s has bin shown to manipulate, destroy, and even preserve a universe.

Originally posted by id369
Phoenix should undeniably win this match. Unless members are sold on the Omniversal hype/potential. From what was seen, Mad Jim Jaspers at best manipulated a universe. While, Phoenix’s has bin shown to manipulate, destroy, and even preserve a universe.
Well this is the range of area where hyperbole runs the most rampant. But apparently since words don't already have meanings its okay to spout gibberish and have the foolish fans accept it, despite how illogical it is.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Well this is the range of area where hyperbole runs the most rampant. But apparently since words don't already have meanings its okay to spout gibberish and have the foolish fans accept it, despite how illogical it is.

Indeed.

Members have to realize, that potential can only help a character so much. You cant be sold on potential, because it holds vary little face value against an actual feat(s).

Look at Nate Grey and Franklin Richards. The writers have specified on several accounts, that their potential rival one another. The difference between the two, and ultimately the key reason as to why one is ranked higher then the other is; “Realized” potential, and “Theorized” Potential.

Franklin potential is realized, by actual showings to fortify why he will one day be viewed as equals among Celestials.

To this day, we can still only theorize what Nate could accomplish. If his body could ever cope with the saturated energy building up in every cell of his body. Until then, we fall back on clocked energy readings, and his showings. Which don’t amount to Franklin’s best.

Originally posted by id369
Phoenix should undeniably win this match. Unless members are sold on the Omniversal hype/potential. From what was seen, Mad Jim Jaspers at best manipulated a universe. While, Phoenix’s has bin shown to manipulate, destroy, and even preserve a universe.

I agree.

Phoenix for the stomp

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.

Abraxas is the conceptual manifestation of an abstract idea in physical form, (destruction)
MJJ remakes concepts for breakfast.

The LT may be the only concept outside his power.

lol

MJJ wins.

Originally posted by id369

Phoenix should undeniably win this match.


Phoenix gets stomped here, undeniably.
Originally posted by id369

Unless members are sold on the Omniversal hype/potential.


Memebers aren't sold on that,
members are convinced when they realize
Matrix/Merlyn (who molded the life-force of the entire Omniverse,
created a pan-dimensional Reaity (Otherworld)
created the Starlight Citadel (an Omniversal Nexus)
created the Celestial Nullifier (able to erase any Universe in the Omniverse)
was <<< MJJ

Yes, who gives a shit who did what to Universes,
when that's a fact.

On top of that, MJJ re-aaranged the 616 Reality,
while Phoenix messed with an alternate reality. 🙂

Originally posted by id369

From what was seen, Mad Jim Jaspers at best manipulated a universe. While, Phoenix’s has bin shown to manipulate, destroy, and even preserve a universe.


This is addressed right above.

616 or 238 MJJ FTW in a ridiculous stomp.

Here we go with misusing terms again. Shame that goblin thread got locked.

But since omni means all and -verse is derived from universe. Omniverse means "all universes"

Since DC has a universe, and tenchi muyo has a universe, they'd fall into the "all universes" they are part of the omniverse.

What would such a collection be called if not omniverse? omniomniverse?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix gets stomped here, undeniably.

Memebers aren't sold on that,
members are convinced when they realize
Matrix/Merlyn (who molded the life-force of the entire Omniverse,
created a pan-dimensional Reaity (Otherworld)
created the Starlight Citadel (an Omniversal Nexus)
created the Celestial Nullifier (able to erase any Universe in the Omniverse)
was <<< MJJ

Yes, who gives a shit who did what to Universes,
when that's a fact.

On top of that, MJJ re-aaranged the 616 Reality,
while Phoenix messed with an alternate reality. 🙂

This is addressed right above.

616 or 238 MJJ FTW in a ridiculous stomp.

So cutting through the fat of this response. You basically affirm that MJJ did nothing more, then mess with one universe.

Good job, he did less their for he is the loser.

Originally posted by id369

So cutting through the fat of this response.
You basically affirm that MJJ did nothing more, then mess with one universe.

Good job, he did less their for he is the loser.


So cutting through the fat of my response.

Basically MJJ was far more powerful than a being (Matrix/Merlyn) who messed with ALL Universes.

Good job indeed in presenting the only loser here. (Phoenix)

MJJ's reality warping > Phoenix's.

Especially taking into account Jaime being able to warp the White Hot Room, and Phoenix's low feats with the Shi'ar black hole weapons and EMPs, etc.

MJJ takes this.

how powerfull wuz MJJ at the time he fight the fury? universal? multiversal?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
how powerfull wuz MJJ at the time he fight the fury? universal? multiversal?

Better question: how many different ways have you already phrased this question in other threads?

😂

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

how powerfull wuz MJJ at the time he fight the fury? universal? multiversal?


MJJ was always Omniversal,
he simply never got a chance to spread his power across the Omniverse.
(because he was stopped by his personal plot device .. the Fury)

It's not like the silly examples used here concerning "potential" with cable or whoever,
MJJ was more powerful than Matrix/Merlyn,
and Matrix/Merlyn molded the life force of the entire Omniverse.

So, regardless of what MJJ did (in terms of affecting universes)
it's really inconsequential,
because in the end,
Matrix/Merlyn who DID manipulate the entire Omniverse
,
was beneath MJJ's power.

I mean, is this a pissing contests (who messed with more universes?)

or ... is this a freakin battle/fight/war (who is more powerful?)

You can answer that yourself good friend, and you'll come up with the only possibility (MJJ)

Originally posted by Mr Master
So cutting through the fat of my response.

Basically MJJ was far more powerful than a being (Matrix/Merlyn) who messed with ALL Universes.

Good job indeed in presenting the only loser here. (Phoenix)


Heh.abccoffee

Come on, you can do better. Do you have a better response? Petty replies, do vary little to cover the Jaspers shortcomings.

k but dint they say his power increase "exponantialy" or somethin?

so if he wuz allready omniversal then it means he wuz gonna become more then omniversal? so whats bigger then omniversal? 🤨

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

k but dint they say his power increase "exponantialy" or somethin?

so if he wuz allready omniversal then it means he wuz gonna become more then omniversal? so whats bigger then omniversal?


His power doesn't increase,
his warp (the area affected by his power) is what expands exponentially.

See, now you won't need to throw in a 😕 smilie anymore. 🙂

For the last time:

238 Jaspers (far weaker than 616 Jaspers)
was more powerful than Matrix/Merlyn.

Matrix/Merlyn molded the life-force of the entire Omniverse,
while 238 Jaspers molded one Universe.

This means from the very start,
MJJ 238 was more powerful than a being that was Omniversal.

Nuff said.

Originally posted by Mr Master
His power doesn't increase,
his warp (the area affected by his power) is what expands exponentially.

See, now you won't need to throw in a 😕 smilie anymore. 🙂

dat confused smilie 😄

k so if MJJ wanted destroy all o omniverse with a snap (like mxy) he could of done it?

btw in 1 panel MJJ was on Merlins chessboard
but if MJJ was allready omniversal then hows that possible? (unless its only MJJ238 i dont remeber now 😮 )

What happened to MJJ 238 I forgot did the Fury killed him?