Full Phoenix force Vs, Mad Jim Jaspers

Originally posted by id369

Because an explanation needed to be supplemented.

Originally posted by id369

See still no retcon, just a shorten explanation.

even though according to your 2005 retconned excerpt Marvel is only a Megaverse. 😐

Except for the fact that,
in official Marvel Handbooks of 2007 and 08, (Glossary of terms)
Marvel has their own Omniverse,
which TOAA CREATED!

And if that wasn't enough,
we have the numerous occasions where the Marvel Omniverse has been affected,
like when Wanda's Chaos Wave re-arranged the entire Omniverse:

"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"

Originally posted by id369

And all though, Marvel did not make the “Real World” or Create DC comics.
It has and still makes joint collaborations with DC, Top Cow, Image etc..

Ga head and try. 🙂

Originally posted by id369

As to write about occurrences taking place in the real world.
Take for example Marvel 1985,
or the various times Writers and Editors make guest appearances.

durlaugh

I mean, are you 'FN' kiddin me?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Excuses, excuses.

abccoffee

Originally posted by Mr Master

Yea ok,
except for the fact that
in LT's 2006 bio (one year AFTER your retconned excerpt)
LT is manipulating the power of TWO Megaverses ...

even though according to your 2005 retconned excerpt Marvel is only a Megaverse. 😐

Get to the point, because your not making any sense.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Except for the fact that,
in official Marvel Handbooks of 2007 and 08, (Glossary of terms)
[b]Marvel has their own Omniverse,
which TOAA CREATED!

And if that wasn't enough,
we have the numerous occasions where the Marvel Omniverse has been affected,
like when Wanda's Chaos Wave re-arranged the entire Omniverse.

[/B]

Again what is your point? This is only a bloated explanation.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Please, show me where Marvel collaborated with Top Cow or Image,
and please prove to me where it's stated and/or even alluded to,
that it's even remotely canon to Marvel's reality.

Your alluding the point, these crossovers though not cannon to mainstream marvel. Are still in part of marvel, due to the collaboration.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Ok, I'm convinced,
since Marvel depicted a fictional artistic representation of a real world figure,
withIN comic book Panels,
it now means the "real world" where you, I and all of us are from,
are part of the same Omniverse as Marvel.

durlaugh

I mean, are you 'FN' kiddin me?

Well when a comic wants to interpret the real world. They wish to emphasize it as real as every day life, to give it some coherence. Because that’s what the Omniverse is to Marvel, everything known in the Marvel Verse, and everything outside of it.

That way it gives Marvel, the freedom to write beyond what you see in Mainstream, Max, Newuniversal, Ultimates, Earth X, Ultraverse etc….Or introduce characters outside of marvel like the Beyonder or Clyde.

Originally posted by id369

abccoffee

Originally posted by id369

Now your just babbling.

Originally posted by id369

Get to the point, because your not making any sense.

Originally posted by id369

Again what is your point? This is only a bloated explanation.

Originally posted by id369

Your alluding the point, these crossovers though not cannon to mainstream marvel. Are still in part of marvel, due to the collaboration.

On top of this,
also show us where any of these ridiculous assumptions of yours are proven in Marvel Comics,
be it on panel or Handbooks,
otherwise,
stop shoving your personal unsupported delusions on us.

Originally posted by id369

Well when a comic wants to interpret the real world. They wish to emphasize it as real as every day life, to give it some coherence. Because that’s what the Omniverse is to Marvel, everything known in the Marvel Verse, and everything outside of it.

That way it gives Marvel, the freedom to write beyond what you see in Mainstream, Max, Newuniversal, Ultimates, Earth X, Ultraverse etc….Or introduce characters outside of marvel like the Beyonder or Clyde.

The Beyonder, Ultis, Earth X and whatever,
were all published by Marvel solely,
have interacted with characters from 616,
and are all referenced in-depth in official Marvel Handbooks.

Unlike the ludicrous notion that the "real world" or any other company is also. 😆

Again, Wanda re-arranged the entire Omniverse:

I dare you to address that Marvel canon truth:

* Did she remake DC, Image, TOp Cow, the "real world" or any other laughable suggestion?

I don't know, and/or care what this debate is all about, but Mr. Master loses by default for posting the dur smilies.

I love how mister master has to resort to what's already been questioned as if its viable evidence.

"Marvel misused a term."
"Here there are using the term!"

Yeah... way to go champ. 👆

That ladies and gentlemen is what's known as circular reasoning. He's using what's being questioned as evidence to support that which is in question. superm

Originally posted by Mr Master
dur

Actually you're the one that's babbling,
a truck load of unsupported shit at that.

Of course it doesn't make sense to you.
it derails your entire stance completely,
with On Panel, bio corroborated proof.

Just proving you wrong, again, and again, and again. ?

All of this is entirely unnecessary. First your randomly posting, anything related to Omniverse and hope I can make any sense of these convoluted replies. Now you resort to petty slap fist replies. These replies don’t even serve to address the issue.

Originally posted by Mr Master
dur

Again, stop posting bull shit
and show us Top Cow and Image
or whatever other fantasy of yours in Marvel comics.

[QUOTE=12183399]Originally posted by Mr Master
[B]

Again, stop posting bull shit
and show us Top Cow and Image
or whatever other fantasy of yours in Marvel comics.

On top of this,
also show us where any of these ridiculous assumptions of yours are proven in Marvel Comics,
be it on panel or Handbooks,
otherwise,
stop shoving your personal unsupported delusions on us.

Uhh, this has nothing to do with verses otuside of Marvel Comics,
but nice try.

The Beyonder, Ultis, Earth X and whatever,
were all published by Marvel solely,
have interacted with characters from 616,
and are all referenced in-depth in official Marvel Handbooks.

Unlike the ludicrous notion that the "real world" or any other company is also. 😆

[b]Again, Wanda re-arranged the entire Omniverse:

I dare you to address that Marvel canon truth:

* Did she remake DC, Image, TOp Cow, the "real world" or any other laughable suggestion? [/B]

Your resorting to post out of spite. They only serve, to provoke an argument reply. Stop baiting me into an argument.

Getting back on track

^^Where in the 2007, handbook entry did you see “Retcon”? All they did was give a vary brief explanation of Omniverse. Not that it actually contradicts the earlier handbook.

The problem is, you took 2005’s entry too literal. Don’t the handbook only serves to supplement information under Marvel publications. Where DC and other publications have collaborated. Or a plot was written, where the Marvel Verse interacted with the real world. Under these circumstances, yes the entry is correct. It gives a short explanation, so readers understand where Clyde or Beyonder come from. Plus the freedom, to continue to write these sort of plots.

Lets not quibble over semantics.

If by Omniverse Mr Master means only marvel than what's the problem? Better yet how is that relevant in this Vs match?

Why this argue about Omniverse. When Mr Master says Omniverse, if the debate is with marvel characters, he means Omniverse as all universes, dimensions in Marvel Universe.
Anyway, Phoenix Force stomps.

Originally posted by id369

All of this is entirely unnecessary. First your randomly posting, anything related to Omniverse and hope I can make any sense of these convoluted replies. Now you resort to petty slap fist replies. These replies don’t even serve to address the issue.

Your resorting to post out of spite.
They only serve, to provoke an argument reply. Stop baiting me into an argument.

You truly are a fake.

Now you wanna play the innocent after I bit back,
but right at the top of this page you're insulting me by spewing shit out your mouth
by claiming I'm babbling.

Be a man dogs and own up.

Originally posted by id369

^^Where in the 2007, handbook entry did you see “Retcon”?
All they did was give a vary brief explanation of Omniverse.
Not that it actually contradicts the earlier handbook.

Or,

how about how your retconned 2005 entry has Marvel as a single Megaverse,
while in 2006 LT's Handbook bio has him fashioning TWO Marvel MegaverseS:

Or, are you under the impression
that the LT is holding the power of TWO separate companies here:

The LT is no joke, look at him with DC and Marvel in his hand. 😆

Originally posted by id369

The problem is, you took 2005’s entry too literal. Don’t the handbook only serves to supplement information under Marvel publications. Where DC and other publications have collaborated. Or a plot was written, where the Marvel Verse interacted with the real world. Under these circumstances, yes the entry is correct. It gives a short explanation, so readers understand where Clyde or Beyonder come from. Plus the freedom, to continue to write these sort of plots.

Address my question or concede.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Again, Wanda re-arranged the entire Omniverse:

I dare you to address that Marvel canon truth:

* Did she remake DC, Image, Top Cow, the "real world" or any other laughable suggestion?

Originally posted by kgkg

Lets not quibble over semantics.

If by Omniverse Mr Master means only marvel than what's the problem?

Originally posted by Xplosive

Why this argue about Omniverse.

When Mr Master says Omniverse,
if the debate is with marvel characters,
he means Omniverse as all universes, dimensions in Marvel Universe.

Not to mention friends, that Marvel specifically made it clear,
On Panel and in Handbooks:

+++

1. Omniverse

2. One Above All

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

..........................................................................

On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

(here's Marvel Comics yet AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER arc, telling us what their Reality is)

"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

..........................................................................

* If anyone has any on panel/handbook proof depicting Marvel as a single Megaverse,
(before or after 2005)
please post it,
if not,
there's absolutely NO counter to this post.

Actually, Marvel Comics has NEVER EVER depicted,
stated
or even alluded to the idea on panel that it's a single Megaverse.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Sorry, its hard to resist continuelly correcting an incorrect useage.

I mean hell with this we should start accepting every little mistake that marvel writers make, as if it was everyone in marvel saying that. Storm can fly on solar winds! Woo!

Even though a solar wind is a discharge of superheated ionized particles from the sun

Does someone need to post the ridiculousness of Superman vibrating between planets to 'save the omniverse'?? It isn't just Marvel that does it.

Obviously, the term 'omniverse' means exactly what you say. And the term 'Marvel Omniverse' means exactly what Mr. Master and Knowsbleed says.

Originally posted by kgkg
Lets not quibble over semantics.

If by Omniverse Mr Master means only marvel than what's the problem? Better yet how is that relevant in this Vs match?

Exactly. the continued "debate" over something so irrelevant is hilarious.

Originally posted by Enyalus
facepalm It's fiction. Break down the Latin root word there, please.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Does someone need to post the ridiculousness of Superman vibrating between planets to 'save the omniverse'?? It isn't just Marvel that does it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Obviously, the term 'omniverse' means exactly what you say. And the term 'Marvel Omniverse' means exactly what Mr. Master and Knowsbleed says.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Does someone need to post the ridiculousness of Superman vibrating between planets to 'save the omniverse'?? It isn't just Marvel that does it.

Mr. M, tone it down a bit please.

Guys, please grow thicker skin. People are going to disagree and debates will become heated, that's life on KMC.

Please use the ignore for posters you just can't debate civilly.

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆

Not to mention friends, that Marvel specifically made it clear,
On Panel and in Handbooks:

+++

1. [B]Omniverse

2. One Above All

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

..........................................................................

On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

(here's Marvel Comics yet AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER arc, telling us what their Reality is)

"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

..........................................................................

* If anyone has any on panel/handbook proof depicting Marvel as a single Megaverse,
(before or after 2005)
please post it,
if not,
there's absolutely NO counter to this post.

Actually, Marvel Comics has NEVER EVER depicted,
stated
or even alluded to the idea on panel that it's a single Megaverse. [/B]

But hey m,ore circular reasoning from mister M

"Marvel misuses words."
"Here's marvel using the word OMNIVERSE"

How does that prove that eachtime they use the word they're not misusing it?

Because that 2005 bio was a correct usage. Subsequently has not been. though the 2007 doesn't say that its not the definition from the 2005 one. its just a shorter usage.