Originally posted by Creshosk
Here we go with misusing terms again. Shame that goblin thread got locked.But since omni means all and -verse is derived from universe. Omniverse means "all universes"
Since DC has a universe, and tenchi muyo has a universe, they'd fall into the "all universes" they are part of the omniverse.
What would such a collection be called if not omniverse? omniomniverse?
Good god man, what the hell is wrong with you?
MARVEL OMNIVERSE MEANS ALL (OMNI) UNIVERSES (VERSE) WITHIN MARVEL.
What are you not getting?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Boy does your latin suck.
Good god man, what the hell is wrong with you?MARVEL OMNIVERSE MEANS ALL (OMNI) UNIVERSES (VERSE) WITHIN MARVEL.
What are you not getting?
Verse does NOT mean "within marvel".
Omni means all, verse is a derivitive from universe.
Omniverse means all universes.
If it ain't all it ain't omni.
I don't get why you fail to understand something so simple.
Marvel is notorious for misusing words and phrases. this is no different.
Omniverse doesn't mean all universes in marvel. Nowhere in the syntax structure of the word or etymology of the words or meanings of the root words does the company marvel come into play.
It's really not a hard concept. Why don't you get it?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Boy does your latin suck.Verse does NOT mean "within marvel".
Omni means all, verse is a derivitive from universe.
Omniverse means all universes.
If it ain't all it ain't omni.
I don't get why you fail to understand something so simple.
Marvel is notorious for misusing words and phrases. this is no different.
Omniverse doesn't mean all universes in marvel. Nowhere in the syntax structure of the word or etymology of the words or meanings of the root words does the company marvel come into play.
It's really not a hard concept. Why don't you get it?
:😖igh:: it's literally like trying to describe something to a special needs child.
The entire Marvelverse is comprised of a near infinite number of universes right? What would ALL those universes combined be called? Yes, that's right, an omniverse.
Omni - All, Verse- Universe(s)
Originally posted by Creshosk
So I guess you don't listen to marvel either then?Guess you can never use marvel.com as a reference either.
That's not Marvels definition. That's a fan definition. I know the guy who wrote those bios, he posts on the Marvel boards all the time.
Marvels definition of an omniverse can be found in the OHotMU. They define it as every single universe within the company.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33[ I'm aware of that, but you'll understand someday.
:😖igh:: it's literally like trying to describe something to a special needs child.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Right. and the DC universe is a universe. and the tenchi universe is a universe. and the simpsons universe is a universe...
The entire Marvelverse is comprised of a near infinite number of universes right? What would ALL those universes combined be called? Yes, that's right, an omniverse.Omni - All, Verse- Universe(s)
By excluding those you are not using ALL the universes.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Did you know that Omjniverse is a term used in quantum mechanics outside of marvel?
That's not Marvels definition. That's a fan definition. I know the guy who wrote those bios, he posts on the Marvel boards all the time.[b/]
In fact it was coined by a guy who was NOT using it only for marvel. He even wronte in this fanzine of his an article about what would happen if Howard the duck ever met scrouge mcDuck.
Since scrouge mcDuck is NOT a marvel property he did not intend for Omniverse to be limited to marvel.
There is nothing in the structure of the word that hints at marvel.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Irrelivant. They did not coin the term nor do they have control of it, trademark or licencing rights to it.
[B]Marvels definition of an omniverse can be found in the OHotMU. They define it as every single universe within the company.
They misused the word. Its really simple. they do it all the time.
Do you get it yet Or do I need to use smaller words?
Oh and I reported you for member bashing by the way.
Originally posted by Creshosk
[ I'm aware of that, but you'll understand someday.
Really? There's hope for you yet then.
Right. and the DC universe is a universe.
It's a multiverse
and the tenchi universe is a universe. and the simpsons universe is a universe...
That's nice.
By excluding those you are not using ALL the universes.
Sure I am. None of those examples are in the Marvelverse. The Marvel omniverse is ALL the uniVERSEs that exsist within the Marvel company.
Did you know that Omjniverse is a term used in quantum mechanics outside of marvel?In fact it was coined by a guy who was NOT using it only for marvel. He even wronte in this fanzine of his an article about what would happen if Howard the duck ever met scrouge mcDuck.
Since scrouge mcDuck is NOT a marvel property he did not intend for Omniverse to be limited to marvel.
There is nothing in the structure of the word that hints at marvel.
What exactly do you not get, seriously? I don't see how you can't grasp this simple concept.
Applying a real world theory to a fictional setting it beyond dumb.
Irrelivant. They did not coin the term nor do they have control of it, trademark or licencing rights to it.They misused the word. Its really simple. they do it all the time.
Do you get it yet Or do I need to use smaller words?
Oh and I reported you for member bashing by the way.
Again i ask you to show me hardcore, credible evidence that says Omniverse HAS to encompass all companies. Methinks the only evidence you'll find are fan written bios.
Let me dangle an example in front of your face. Say a scientist proved w/o a doubt that there was an infinite number of parallel universes. What would you call it, a multiverse? megaverse? Is it less than an omniverse because it doesn't also include fictional universes?
Marvel Omniverse means all the universes that exsist within the company. Omni- All, Verse - Universe. Can I be more clear?
It's probably best that we put eachother on ignore because, beyond this, I can't think of anything except insulting your intelligence.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Yeah I might convince you the truth of what an omniverse is.
Really? There's hope for you yet then.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Which contains universes.
It's a multiverse
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33I see ignoring my point then.
That's nice.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Except that the word doesn't say "marvel" in it.
Sure I am. None of those examples are in the Marvelverse. The Marvel omniverse is ALL the uniVERSEs that exsist within the Marvel company.
http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Omniverse
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Because its incorrect.
What exactly do you not get, seriously? I don't see how you can't grasp this simple concept.
It's like trying to argue that a frog is a 6 foot tall purple cylindrical vegetable with human hands sprouting from one end and an unlimited amoutnt of fire shooting from the other.
That is NOT what a frog is.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33No it isn't. seeing as how things like gravity is a real world concept that we apply to fictional mediums, as is the concept of breathing and circulatory systems.
Applying a real world theory to a fictional setting it beyond dumb.
Real world concepts are found in fiction all the time.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33I've told you what the definition of the word is. I've told you how the word breaks apart. I've told you the meaning of the individual parts. Now I've linked you to the definition of the word outside of fictional content. Its a real word that they're using incorrectly.
Again i ask you to show me hardcore, credible evidence that says Omniverse HAS to encompass all companies. Methinks the only evidence you'll find are fan written bios.
Marvel doesn't have the rights to the word.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33already linked you a definition that states that'd be a multiverse.
Let me dangle an example in front of your face. Say a scientist proved w/o a doubt that there was an infinite number of parallel universes. What would you call it, a multiverse? megaverse? Is it less than an omniverse because it doesn't also include fictional universes?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33And what part of the word omniverse means marvel?
Marvel Omniverse means all the universes that exsist within the company. Omni- All, Verse - Universe. Can I be more clear?
Omni all
Verse universe.
If its NOT all it is not Omni,
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861684649
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/omni-
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/omni?view=uk
Omniverse "all universes" If you exclude a single universe, say tenchi's or one of mickey mouses, onr one of marios..
Its not all... Do I have to explain to you what the word all means?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Which you have and have been reported for.
It's probably best that we put eachother on ignore because, beyond this, I can't think of anything except insulting your intelligence.
I'm not the one misusing real words. I'm not the one showing ignorance of multiple languages at the same time.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah I might convince you the truth of what an omniverse is.
Except I'm not the one unable to understand simple concepts.
Which contains universes.
Many and when you add in Elseworlds, Wildstorm and Vertigo you get the DC omniverse. Definition: All the universes that exsist within the DC company.
I see ignoring my point then.
I only acknowledge what's relevant. Since none of those universes belong to the Marvel company they are irrelevant.
Except that the word doesn't say "marvel" in it.
That link doesn't support your argument at all. It says Mark Gruenwald is believed to have coined it and he coined it the first time during his run on Quasar.....a Marvel comic.
Because its incorrect.
To one who doesn't understand the true definiton.
No it isn't. seeing as how things like gravity is a real world concept that we apply to fictional mediums, as is the concept of breathing and circulatory systems.Real world concepts are found in fiction all the time.
And they get bent and distorted in fiction all the time as well. Your problem is you think that since Marvel isn't using the real world defintion in their fictional universe they're hyperboling. They're not, when they use the term in a comic book, they're making reference to all the universes that exsist within the company.
I've told you what the definition of the word is. I've told you how the word breaks apart. I've told you the meaning of the individual parts. Now I've linked you to the definition of the word outside of fictional content. Its a real word that they're using incorrectly.
How are they using it incorrectly. The true definition is as the word implies. All Universes.
already linked you a definition that states that'd be a multiverse.
A multiverse is a cluster of universes that have common traits. Earth-616 and all its branch universes is a multiverse.
And what part of the word omniverse means marvel?Omni all
Verse universe.If its NOT all it is not Omni,
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861684649
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/omni-
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/omni?view=ukOmniverse "all universes" If you exclude a single universe, say tenchi's or one of mickey mouses, onr one of marios..
Its not all... Do I have to explain to you what the word all means?
Marvel Omniverse means All the universes within the Marvel company.
Which you have and have been reported for.I'm not the one misusing real words. I'm not the one showing ignorance of multiple languages at the same time.
No, you're the one apply real world concepts to a fictional setting.
The argument started because in a comic book it was stated that a character had the potential to blink out the omniverse. Translation: He had the potential to blink out the entirety of Marvel. No hyperbole was commited.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33That's completely dishonest. As you're not understtanding a simple concept.
Except I'm not the one unable to understand simple concepts.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33That's stupid. there's only one omniverse.
Many and when you add in Elseworlds, Wildstorm and Vertigo you get the DC omniverse. Definition: All the universes that exsist within the DC company.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33except that you're ignoring the definition of omniverse. The correct one.
I only acknowledge what's relevant. Since none of those universes belong to the Marvel company they are irrelevant.
Omni means all. Verse means universe. Omniverse means all universes.
What would you call a collection of all the omniverses? The omniomniverse?
Seriously, that's ridiculous.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Um, no. it was when he had his fanzine up and running.
That link doesn't support your argument at all. It says Mark Gruenwald is believed to have coined it and he coined it the first time during his run on Quasar.....a Marvel comic.
The name Omniverse was used for an early-1980s semi-professional comic book fan magazine which explored the ramifications of the DC Comics and Marvel Comics combined Multiverses (see Multiverse (DC Comics), Multiverse (Marvel Comics)).
So you ignore what's relevant and ignore whats's not.. nice.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Yes, that's who I'm speaking to, one who doesn't understand the true definition.. that'd be YOU.
To one who doesn't understand the true definiton.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Which is a megaverse. Not an omniverse.
And they get bent and distorted in fiction all the time as well. Your problem is you think that since Marvel isn't using the real world defintion in their fictional universe they're hyperboling. They're not, when they use the term in a comic book, they're making reference to all the universes that exsist within the company.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33and then they exclude universes. when they say all, they dont' really mean all. So that means they're using the wrong word.
How are they using it incorrectly. The true definition is as the word implies. All Universes.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Look, he can be taught!
A multiverse is a cluster of universes that have common traits. Earth-616 and all its branch universes is a multiverse.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33[ Its a megaverse not an omniverse. They're using the wrong word. If its not all it not omni its simple.
Marvel Omniverse means All the universes within the Marvel company.
Its from omnis which is latin, which means ALL. Its a horrible mistranslation of the word if you're not including ALL. "Just the Marvel universes" is not all.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Yeah. imagine that.. things like gravity and blood and even Death. Those are real concepts which are applied by the writers.
No, you're the one apply real world concepts to a fictional setting.
The argument started because in a comic book it was stated that
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Except that it was never proven.
a character had the potential to blink out the omniverse. Translation: He had the potential to blink out the entirety of Marvel. No hyperbole was commited.
Omni means all. Verse means universe. Omniverse means all universes
Originally posted by Survivor19Yeah. and I'm just saying the correct term is megaverse.
Inside Marvel, there are no other universes, except those which are Marvel's (non-canon crossovers excluded), that is why word 'omniverse' when used inside Marvelverse does not refer in any way to any other fictional and/or real universes, because there are no any other universes to refer, except those which are Marvel's (crossovers excluded).
When used, 'omniverse' only refers to all universes existing from the POV of one who is using the term. Yes, it effectively renders the term incorrect from the POV with greater amount of data, like ours, but that doesn't changes the meaning of what the term user was trying to adress.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah. and I'm just saying the correct term is megaverse.
Also, since i do not recall any reality warping from Phoenix, i'd go with Jim. Fashion sense ftw.