Kain vs Kratos and Ganondorf

Originally posted by Burning thought
how do you know he can? first Zant did it, second Zant did not seem to do it on a whim, it simply happened when the light spirit was defeated so he may not even be able to call on it when he wants to. Cannot detect ganon, he can see spirits, souls and can sense the EG who is a multimdentional entity, both spectoral and physical to certain extents. no such thing as not detecting. Soul raped? the reavers slashed Kain many times on raziels arm, it does not take his soul, not to mension a vampire soul in LOK as Dumah shows is more dangerous than a physical one. So youll simply have Kain wielding the wraith blade against a helpless spirit of Ganon....

Kain can escape this fate with a teleport anyway.

lol more powerful than anything Kain has, stop lieing, and its not better than TK, and nothing states it cannot be teleported out of either.

Hmm...I know!

Originally posted by Burning thought
Reach man! reach and you may grasp something! really strain your arm!

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It affects spirits 😄 It can inst-pwn a light spriit, which would, btw, rape Kain. It can't be teleported out of, Midna can teleport, and discorporate, and is left helpless.

And no. Lol. Being able to detect the EG =/= being able to see beings in the twilight field. Kain'll be totally helpless, and his soul will get raped.

false.

Midna can=/=Midna did/tried? stop baseless speculation ty very much and relying on overhype based on PIS.

twilight field just sounds like the spectoral plane, and no, Ganon cannot use this power, furthermore he will be destroyed before he can call it since Kain is quicker than he is. If it affected Kain then it will be Ganon who will be soul raped.

BT's last post was hilarious in every way possible.

1. Kain has no speed feats that put him anywhere close to that fast.
2. Midna was rendered entirely helpless and even was foribly held near Zant so he could hit on her in a creepy way.
3. Twilight field is an overlapping dimension. Kain would be on the outside, unable to see Ganon, who can see Kain.
4. No, Kain will not be able to detect Ganon, it's a one way deal. Ganon will be in the twilight, Kain outside, wondering where Ganon is. Then Ganon tears his soul from him. 😄
5. Your entire argument is one big falacy, an overhype of Kain, and an attempted downplay on Ganon.
6. Yes, Ganon can use this power, he's the one who gave it to Zant.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Kain has no speed feats that put him anywhere close to that fast.
2. Midna was rendered entirely helpless and even was foribly held near Zant so he could hit on her in a creepy way.
3. Twilight field is an overlapping dimension. Kain would be on the outside, unable to see Ganon, who can see Kain.
4. No, Kain will not be able to detect Ganon, it's a one way deal. Ganon will be in the twilight, Kain outside, wondering where Ganon is. Then Ganon tears his soul from him. 😄
5. Your entire argument is one big falacy, an overhype of Kain, and an attempted downplay on Ganon.
6. Yes, Ganon can use this power, he's the one who gave it to Zant.

1. One teleport slash will end Ganon.

2. So? still no shown use of teleportation or that she actually tried...

3. So its a dimension? dimentional teleport ftw, its nothing to stop Kain, and in a spiritual form he is a vampire wraith which as Dumah shows can be even more deadly.

4. prove this. Kain can detect souls and the dead, he will detect Ganon.

5. false

6. False, he gave power to Zant, not "powers", thus what Zant can do with this power can be very diffrent to what Ganon can do with his own power. 😄

Dude, BT, why are you still talking? If you were intelligent you could put Mr. Fantastic out of a job.

Play a freaking Zelda game, seriously.

This shit is getting funnier and funnierdurlaugh

Kain can see through several dimensions, this does not seem any diffrent, it would seem Ganon has no chance. First this ability is based on sending the twilight into hyrule, problem with this is, Kain could escape the area nad will be all over Kratos and Ganon before they know it, useing teleport and time slowing then time freezing. A simply blood shower will drain both of their life and they drop dead.

Even if Kain "lets" Ganon use this twilgiht power, it touches him and turns him into spirit, he becomes even more powerful since as Dumah shows vampires in spirit form get stronger, far stronger.....Kains soul reaver even being a spiritual weapon will also come with him so youll only make him more powerful. gj Ganon, who will then die as his helpess twilight form is destroyed.

Also post defiance Kain has the power of Raziel, which includes light and darkness. Light will dispell the darkness of the twlight while darkness will render Kain invisible so we will have a teleporting invsible entity who slows time and rips out your blood and spirit gaining your powers and Ganon the featless wonder based on speculation can defeat him? lolz indeed.. durlaugh

I agree, your post IS pretty funny, BT.

Here's why;
1. If Kain teleports out of the area, he's BFR'd.
2. If he doesn't. He dies.
3. He's too slow to stop Ganon.
4. He's not powerful enough to harm Ganon.

1. No because he did it himself and can return/go as he pleases, BFR is when you cannot return.
2. Theres nothing Ganon can do....not by real feats or abilities.
3. Ganon is not fast at all...
4. Really? even the Screampaste Ganon can be harmed by the abilties i listed, hes not immune to blood powers or time incapaciation so dont even try it. And his soul has no resistance either.

Even if 3 and 4 were true, they're not, Kain never gets to attack Ganon, so they're moot.

haermm

This takes place in Hyrule field, if Kain leaves the area, he has given up. He won't Blood Shower before he gets TKed.

Kain will not see Ganon at all.

"Ganon the featless wonder" made me ****ing lol. Ganon is better than Kain in every conceivable way.

Ganon's what Kain wants to be when he grows up.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This takes place in Hyrule field, if Kain leaves the area, he has given up. He won't Blood Shower before he gets TKed.

Kain will not see Ganon at all.

"Ganon the featless wonder" made me ****ing lol. Ganon is better than Kain in every conceivable way.

False, thats the battle area but BFR is when you are removed from a battlefield but cannot return to it.

lol before hes Tked? then Ganon is screwed because at that point Kain teleports behind him and cleaves his head in half. Or TK's back and tosses Ganon head first into the ground...again...and again.. etc etc

Ganon has no ability to "hide" from Kain, yet Kain has the dark elemental power to go invisible to ganon...

Not at all, its more the other way around.

Originally posted by Burning thought
False, thats the battle area but BFR is when you are removed from a battlefield but cannot return to it.

lol before hes Tked? then Ganon is screwed because at that point Kain teleports behind him and cleaves his head in half. Or TK's back and tosses Ganon head first into the ground...again...and again.. etc etc

Ganon has no ability to "hide" from Kain, yet Kain has the dark elemental power to go invisible to ganon...

Not at all, its more the other way around.

He left the area because it was being engulfed in Twilight. it's not going to stop being engulfed in Twilight. And you can't get back into the Twilight without a being of the Twilight with you. That's the only reason Midna is useful at all.

Kain isn't strong enough, and Kain can't teleport out of it anyway. Can Kain TK without moving his arms?

Invisibility, yeah, that's real helpful when you can't harm your opponent in any way possible.

Haha, Ganon has done things Kain wouldn't be able to do in his wildest dreams.

Isn't the only thing Kain has to do is sip Ganon's blood? And then he'll have Ganon's powers.

He won't do that before he gets wrecked.

I'm not even sure if that would work on Ganon. Has it worked on anything as durable as Ganon?

Originally posted by Gumachi
Isn't the only thing Kain has to do is sip Ganon's blood? And then he'll have Ganon's powers.

its nothing to do with Durability, and yes, once he drinks some of Ganons blood he gains powers from Ganon, thats true. When he takes his soul he will get all the rest of hte powers as well....lulz

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He left the area because it was being engulfed in Twilight. it's not going to stop being engulfed in Twilight. And you can't get back into the Twilight without a being of the Twilight with you. That's the only reason Midna is useful at all.

Kain isn't strong enough, and Kain can't teleport out of it anyway. Can Kain TK without moving his arms?

Invisibility, yeah, that's real helpful when you can't harm your opponent in any way possible.

Haha, Ganon has done things Kain wouldn't be able to do in his wildest dreams.

Engulfed in twilight? the wiki claims that Links land was not touched by twilight even when Zant was at rule....and dont forget Kain has the power of light which from the Master sword can stop the twilight...

I dont think so, but then again, Ganon/Zant have not shown to be able to hold a whole body solid, so Kains arms would be free anyway...

lol, what rubbish.

Yeh and Kain has defeated a continent sized multidimentional God with instant regeneration and magics who controls the wheel of fate. while doing that whats Ganon done? defeated by a little kid dressed as legolas? again...and again..and again etc etc 🙄 very impressive. Kains variety of powers are also incredible.

lmao @ Elder God

What about it? large enough to smother a titan, eats souls, spin the fates of those on Nosgoth and has a magic projectiles. Far beyond anyone or anything Ganon has killed or harmed thats for sure. The E.G would bury hyrule literally....