Kain vs Kratos and Ganondorf

Thats what it says:

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Zant

Zant opened a portal to Hyrule and began a conquest of the land. After a series of successful campaigns, Zant's army attacked Hyrule Castle. The Hylian Knights defending the Throne Room were defeated in the ensuing battle, and Princess Zelda was forced to abdicate the throne to Zant to save the lives of her people. He covered the provinces of Hyrule in Twilight, turning the inhabitants into spirits.

Is there even a video or scene showing him doing this? it sounds the sort of move thats extremely slow or at least ineffective. Kain could escape it anyway.

Originally posted by Gumachi
If he teleports away, how can he slash Ganon?

I am listing his choices, he could either teleport away to create the repel shield to stop magic and his time field so that his opponents are screwed if he teleports next to them. Or he could teleport slash Ganon and Kratos.

There's nothing in Twilight Princess to suggest him campaigning...Where the hell did they get that?

Actually it happened instantaneously after he defeated the Light Spirit. Without a light spirit to protect the area, it probably happens automatically.

I dont know, maybe you missed something. Thats what they stated, I doubt they made up the campainging and Zelda giving up her throne.

Whats funny is that Dumah shows Vampires can be far more dangerous as wraiths/spirits than as actual physical forms. Not to mension Kain is pretty much a spirit controlling a physical form, his power comes from his essence.

Although I want to see this "instanteous" transformation. Apprently not all the world was taken,the wiki points out that link in a town elseware was unharmed, same with the town.

I remember Zelda willingly giving up her throne, but all that we see is Zant barging into the castle and his twilight beasts kicking the soldiers' asses.

Its in the same video as the Zant TK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMB9zKgR5f0

this one? this does not look like anything to do with instantly turning anyone into a spirit...or the world, or Zelda leaving the throne to Zant and having him turn the world to twilight....

Watch the video again, BT. He instantly defeats all three, the light spirit, Link, and Midna with TK, then he turns Link into a wolf by calling down Twilight, which appens instantly. They pull a neat camera panning trick, by swigning behind Zant and when thgey come to his other side, Link's a wolf. Link gets this shape because he has the triforce of courage, everyone else is reduced to a spirit.

That video alone shows TK, calling down twilight, and shows you him tellin you hwere his power comes from. Ganon. Midna cannot teleport out of his TK, either.

People turn into spirits when the world is engulfed in Twilight. And when Zant TKs the Light Spirits ball of light into the water, the area turned to Twilight. That's why you see the black squares.

Damn, I love that scene. Midna getting pwned never gets old.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Watch the video again, BT. He instantly defeats all three, the light spirit, Link, and Midna with TK, then he turns Link into a wolf by calling down Twilight, which appens instantly. They pull a neat camera panning trick, by swigning behind Zant and when thgey come to his other side, Link's a wolf. Link gets this shape because he has the triforce of courage, everyone else is reduced to a spirit.

That video alone shows TK, calling down twilight, and shows you him tellin you hwere his power comes from. Ganon. Midna cannot teleport out of his TK, either.

no means instant, its just slammed into a wall and thats not TK, if its a spirit hes useing another power since you cannot physically grab the non physical. Looks like a magic blast.

Also this looks like a plot event special to that scene....as soon as that spirit fall back into the water the twilight appears, then suddenly after midna is teleproted away it disapears and the area is back to normal....

Play the damn game, BT.

And yeah, Zant's TK is obviously able to effect spirits, it does so. And lol? Because Zant teleported her out of the twilight field to die.

Unless its stated as TK then its not necesserily Tk, looks like a magic wave of force to me, his body flashed as he did it.

Her being out of the field does not mean it ceases to exist....its just not there even if shes not..

Unless its stated as TK then its not necesserily Tk, looks like a magic wave of force to me, his body flashed as he did it.

This part doesn't make sense. Who said the twilight ceased to exist..?

The area turned to normal because Zant activated the Light Spirits power so he could turn Midna into a being of the light world.

Its not TK because Tk is physical forces, you cannot affect spirit with physical forces and if its not factually stated to be TK then you cannot assume such. He can move midna around but his actual wave looks magical with his glowing flash.

3:06 is disapears and is gone afterwards.

Its gone because the Light Spirit is active again. The only reason it stayed that way is because Zant didn't give enough of a shit to wreck the Light Spirit again.

Whether its TK or Magic, Kain gets wrecked by it.

Zant/Ganon's TK obviously can, because it does in that video.

at 3:06, Zant exposes the light spirit, dispelling the twilight.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice

Whether its TK or Magic, Kain gets wrecked by it.

Not really, kain could do the same to Ganon if not more....furthermore he can escape it with ease through teleport/mist. Killing both Ganon and Kratos before they can react, or are slowed in time to do with as he pleases.

Not really, kain could do the same to Ganon if not more....furthermore he can escape it with ease through teleport/mist.

Every blunder at once. 😄

You're ignoring evidence again.

Ganon simply calls down Twilight, Kain cannot detect Ganon, and gets soul raped.

Whatever it is, it does axactly what TK does, better. It's more powerful than anythign Kain has, and cannot be teleported out of. Ignore evidence more.

Can't be mist formed out of either. You really are just blatantly ignoring evidence now.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Every blunder at once. 😄

You're ignoring evidence again.

Ganon simply calls down Twilight, Kain cannot detect Ganon, and gets soul raped.

Whatever it is, it does axactly what TK does, better. It's more powerful than anythign Kain has, and cannot be teleported out of. Ignore evidence more.

how do you know he can? first Zant did it, second Zant did not seem to do it on a whim, it simply happened when the light spirit was defeated so he may not even be able to call on it when he wants to. Cannot detect ganon, he can see spirits, souls and can sense the EG who is a multimdentional entity, both spectoral and physical to certain extents. no such thing as not detecting. Soul raped? the reavers slashed Kain many times on raziels arm, it does not take his soul, not to mension a vampire soul in LOK as Dumah shows is more dangerous than a physical one. So youll simply have Kain wielding the wraith blade against a helpless spirit of Ganon....

Kain can escape this fate with a teleport anyway.

lol more powerful than anything Kain has, stop lieing, and its not better than TK, and nothing states it cannot be teleported out of either.

It affects spirits 😄 It can inst-pwn a light spriit, which would, btw, rape Kain. It can't be teleported out of, Midna can teleport, and discorporate, and is left helpless.

And no. Lol. Being able to detect the EG =/= being able to see beings in the twilight field. Kain'll be totally helpless, and his soul will get raped.