Kain vs Kratos and Ganondorf

Started by Gumachi10 pages

He's not really that big, in my opinion. I mean, he's nothing but a giant squid that regrows his tentacles 😂

Originally posted by Burning thought
What about it? large enough to smother a titan, eats souls, spin the fates of those on Nosgoth and has a magic projectiles. Far beyond anyone or anything Ganon has killed or harmed thats for sure. The E.G would bury hyrule literally....

He couldn't even bury Kain, let along a universe, lol. Funny thing is that he buried himself 😆

An Octopus is more like it, and do you know anything about cthulhu elder gods? their very much like octopus faced humanoids and they were extremely powerful....

Either way hes enormous, he multiplies tentacles, shoots magic from his eyes and his durability has to be impressive. He can smash through rock with ease as well. Spinning the fate of every entity on the world is a big feat as well.

Hyrule is not a universe.....and he didnt bury himself...wtf stop trolling

Originally posted by Burning thought
its nothing to do with Durability, and yes, once he drinks some of Ganons blood he gains powers from Ganon, thats true. When he takes his soul he will get all the rest of hte powers as well....lulz

Engulfed in twilight? the wiki claims that Links land was not touched by twilight even when Zant was at rule....and dont forget Kain has the power of light which from the Master sword can stop the twilight...

I dont think so, but then again, Ganon/Zant have not shown to be able to hold a whole body solid, so Kains arms would be free anyway...

lol, what rubbish.

Yeh and Kain has defeated a continent sized multidimentional God with instant regeneration and magics who controls the wheel of fate. while doing that whats Ganon done? defeated by a little kid dressed as legolas? again...and again..and again etc etc 🙄 very impressive. Kains variety of powers are also incredible.

Link's land wasn't touched by Twilight, he lives in the Ordona province, and that was the last province they were going to take over. Link stopped them first. The Master Sword is the Blade of Evils Bane. Not the Blade of Light. The Light Arrows are divine power, which I also doubt Kain's light has.

Haha.

Ignore more evidence, because that means you win the argument, right?

Controls the wheel of fate huh? A lot of good that did him if he gets beat by Edwar-- Kain. You make me laugh with your attempts at mockery. Keep them coming, I want to see how creative you can get.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Link's land wasn't touched by Twilight, he lives in the Ordona province, and that was the last province they were going to take over. Link stopped them first. The Master Sword is the Blade of Evils Bane. Not the Blade of Light. The Light Arrows are divine power, which I also doubt Kain's light has.

Haha.

Ignore more evidence, because that means you win the argument, right?

Controls the wheel of fate huh? A lot of good that did him if he gets beat by Edwar-- Kain. You make me laugh with your attempts at mockery. Keep them coming, I want to see how creative you can get.

Doesnt matter, unless something states the fact their divine is the reason they can push back twilight. The light Kains uses is simply the elemental light, it will be a defence against any twilight. And as I said, links land is untoched which means the process obviously is not all touching and instant as you like to think.

Ive already won the argument, my side is not based on baseless speculation and hype remember?

Indeed, a lot of good it did do him, sort of like how Ganons lowly powers will be.

Originally posted by Burning thought
An Octopus is more like it, and do you know anything about cthulhu elder gods? their very much like octopus faced humanoids and they were extremely powerful....

Either way hes enormous, he multiplies tentacles, shoots magic from his eyes and his durability has to be impressive. He can smash through rock with ease as well. Spinning the fate of every entity on the world is a big feat as well.

Hyrule is not a universe.....and he didnt bury himself...wtf stop trolling

Didn't you say squid? No.

He couldn't even kill Raziel, though, nor can he kill Kain.

Now I understand, but I doubt he could do that, because why didn't he just bury Nosgoth? Actually he did, lol. What did he do after Kain teleported away from him? He didn't take a shit 😆

Thats because their immortal.....and far beyond him...

Because he needs Nosgoth silly, its his food....bury himself? how can something that lives under the ground bury itself...its burrowing, as Kain says "youd best burrow deep". fleeing from Kain...

Originally posted by Burning thought
Doesnt matter, unless something states the fact their divine is the reason they can push back twilight. The light Kains uses is simply the elemental light, it will be a defence against any twilight. And as I said, links land is untoched which means the process obviously is not all touching and instant as you like to think.

Ive already won the argument, my side is not based on baseless speculation and hype remember?

Indeed, a lot of good it did do him, sort of like how Ganons lowly powers will be.

The reason the Master Sword protects against Twilight is because its the blade of evil's bane. And there is nothing about Light Arrows pushing back Twilight in Twilight Princess. But they are Divine Power, and that is why they hurt Ganon. Kain's light is not Divine Power.

Really? Well, that's news to me. I guess ignoring evidence really does work. I choose to ignore everything Kain has ever done, which isn't much.

Ganon has an excuse, Link is immune to the majority of his powers and Link is specifically made to defeat him. The EG should be able to make Kain into his plaything, but it couldn't.

If he lives underground, then how can he literally bury Hyrule?

Originally posted by Gumachi
If he lives underground, then how can he literally bury Hyrule?

i dunno, imagine something far larger than a Titan under New york, then imagine the damage it would do if it shook and burrowed and smashed with its millions of tentacles......the citiy would be smashed. Now reflect that knowledge on hyrule, the EG would through its size cause such devastation...

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The reason the Master Sword protects against Twilight is because its the blade of evil's bane. And there is nothing about Light Arrows pushing back Twilight in Twilight Princess. But they are Divine Power, and that is why they hurt Ganon. Kain's light is not Divine Power.

Really? Well, that's news to me. I guess ignoring evidence really does work. I choose to ignore everything Kain has ever done, which isn't much.

Ganon has an excuse, Link is immune to the majority of his powers and Link is specifically made to defeat him. The EG should be able to make Kain into his plaything, but it couldn't.

No its pure light, and prove its divine power that harms Ganon only, and not the fact their light. hence their name. it has to be important. And kains light is the counter to darkness wihch is evils element. Not far to say it would do the same.

You already do ignore everything Kain has ever done....

Why should it? Kain is vastly more powerful with more powerful weapons. And most of this sounds like fan speculation, Link immune to most powers? his triforce of courage only protects him from so many things....

I believe its the item description in Wind Waker that quotes it as Divine Power.

Not really, I point out why you have overhyped it.

The Master Sword protects Link from Evil. I don't think we ever really get told what exactly the Triforce of Courage does. Personally I suspect that it adds to durability. That's lovely that it counters darkness, but I believe right now we're talking about Twilight.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I believe its the item description in Wind Waker that quotes it as Divine Power.

Not really, I point out why you have overhyped it.

The Master Sword protects Link from Evil. I don't think we ever really get told what exactly the Triforce of Courage does. Personally I suspect that it adds to durability. That's lovely that it counters darkness, but I believe right now we're talking about Twilight.

You belive or you know?

False

"shrug", is this stated in the canon of the game? I remember there was a lovely list of assumptions in an old thread of how the sword protects Link against anything and everything evil. Twilight is not that diffrent from darkness, similiar element. Twilight is just usually lesser/weaker.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You belive or you know?

False

"shrug", is this stated in the canon of the game? I remember there was a lovely list of assumptions in an old thread of how the sword protects Link against anything and everything evil. Twilight is not that diffrent from darkness, similiar element. Twilight is just usually lesser/weaker.

Well its either Wind Waker or Twilight Princess. Pretty sure its Wind Waker though.

False

Dude. Play a ****ing Zelda game. Twilight is not the same as Darkness or Light in Twilight Princess. As opposed to darkness, its more of a shadow. Either way the Master Sword protects against it.

This thread is a lollercoaster...

Elemental light is not the same as the light to smite evil which the light arrows possess, nor is it near as powerful as the light arrows, which are more powerful than even the ice arrow,s which /froze a ****in' volcano./.

did I mention ice arrows can't hurt Ganon?

Kain has no chance, he cannot percieve Ganon, hurt Ganon, cannot escape Ganon, and cannot stop himself from getting destroyed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This thread is a lollercoaster...

Elemental light is not the same as the light to smite evil which the light arrows possess, nor is it near as powerful as the light arrows, which are more powerful than even the ice arrow,s which /froze a ****in' volcano./.

did I mention ice arrows can't hurt Ganon?

Kain has no chance, he cannot percieve Ganon, hurt Ganon, cannot escape Ganon, and cannot stop himself from getting destroyed.

You cant base arrows of a completly diffrent element on another just because the previous were more powerful. If it did freeze a volcano in canon, the type of enormous volcano I would typically think of when someone says Volcano and not just a tiny fictional one. Then thats a feat for ice arrows. Not light arrows....also prove all this about smiting evil, their still arrows of light, which makes sense their effective against evil since light as a good element opposes darkness as the evil one.

This can be swapped around, Kain can percieve far more dimensional enttiies than Ganon and can go invsiible. Ganon is vulerable to almost all spells Kain possesses and can teleport far quicker than ive seen Ganon teleport. Kain cannot even be destroye,d never has been....hell hes had his point of excistence torn out the heart....whats Ganon had? a kid has stuck his head with a sword several times nad hes been defeated several times. TP seems to show that hes dead as well....

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well its either Wind Waker or Twilight Princess. Pretty sure its Wind Waker though.

False

Dude. Play a ****ing Zelda game. Twilight is not the same as Darkness or Light in Twilight Princess. As opposed to darkness, its more of a shadow. Either way the Master Sword protects against it.

So its more of a shadow than darkness and you dont think a shadow is expelled by light? hell light takes away and even creates shadows.... 🙄 by the sounds of it light is the greatest weakness of this twilight thing.

You never did answer my question. Why are you still talking?

because although I have completly defeated the fanboy musketeers Moocow and Paste without any argument left to their name other people may indeed have an actual argument/debate to put up for Ganondorf at least.

Right right, every blunder at once on your part.
Step 1. Spout nonsense.
Step 2. Claim victory. IE, spout more nonsense.

This thread is just to funny... Kain can go mist and is invincible. LOL. Teleport-slash for the win... ROFL! I mean Ganon could do the same damn thing!

Show me Ganon doing anything similiar.....and Ganon cant go mist...nor can he drain the blood of his enemies while gaining their abilities. nor can he rip out souls with spells....or freeze opponents in time..or slow several. Theres a great many things the inferior ganon cannot do.