Superman Runs The Marvel Gauntlet

Originally posted by quanchi112
The same gif you posted on Herochat. How original.

hahah REALLY Quanny? I expected better even from you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is correct.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Yw.

I wouldn't be surprised if you missed the sarcasm. Gray Hulk and Professor Hulk are definitely below Lobo and Lar Gand, and a Pre-DOS Superman one-shot them simultaneously when he got serious and bashed their heads together. So a weaker, simply mad Superman owned a superior team and somehow you think they win. Clearly due to your utter Marvel bias. And we're not even getting into blood-lusted Superman with CIS off. Superman like that MURDERS them. But Superman gets stopped at 4 'cuz Quan-Logic.

Originally posted by Delta1938
hahah REALLY Quanny? I expected better even from you.

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I wouldn't be surprised if you missed the sarcasm. Gray Hulk and Professor Hulk are definitely below Lobo and Lar Gand, and a Pre-DOS Superman one-shot them simultaneously when he got serious and bashed their heads together. So a weaker, simply mad Superman owned a superior team and somehow you think they win. Clearly due to your utter Marvel bias. And we're not even getting into blood-lusted Superman with CIS off. Superman like that MURDERS them. But Superman gets stopped at 4 'cuz Quan-Logic.

They beat Superman. Far less has beat him but cherry pick and abc logic away.

Hulks win IMO.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Think me ignorant, but how is Superman going to bfr WBH? He was pouring out enough radiation to melt amped heralds...

Superman can just bfr WBH with utmost ease, especially reading the bios before the fight.

I see Superman clearing in both for the simple fact that HE READS THE BIOS BEFORE THE FIGHT. He can just bfr each character at will.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, it is. Why say more when it isn't necessary.

You truly do believe that. Funny.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They beat Superman. Far less has beat him but cherry pick and abc logic away.

You're not one to talk about cherry picking. And "ABC logic?" I'm pointing-out a superior team than the Hulks failed to put-down a Pre-DOS Superman and he one-shot them when he got serious. And then made points about scenario 2. How is this any more "ABC logic" than you saying "Far less has beat Superman" without even including the fact you have a tendency to leave-out context?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulks win IMO.

And your opinion is Superman loses more often than not, and your double standard and misleading tactics prove your bias.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You truly do believe that. Funny.

You're not one to talk about cherry picking. And "ABC logic?" I'm pointing-out a superior team than the Hulks failed to put-down a Pre-DOS Superman and he one-shot them when he got serious. And then made points about scenario 2. How is this any more "ABC logic" than you saying "Far less has beat Superman" without even including the fact you have a tendency to leave-out context?

And your opinion is Superman loses more often than not, and your double standard and misleading tactics prove your bias.

Why not ? Abc logic. I can make lessers showing up Superman than the team. I don't leave out context ever.

It is my opinion. You cling to high feats of Superman and tend to do the opposite. Opinions vary. Let it go. Hulks win IMO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And yet I am correct. Hilarious.

You're as correct as saying Hitler won World War VII.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why not ?

Why are you not one to talk about others cherry picking? The fact that you do it yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Abc logic.

Explain to me how what I'm doing is any more ABC logic than your vague claim. Unless Lobo and Lar Gand fought the Hulk team and I was unaware of it? This right here is straight-up hypocrisy to say I'm using ABC logic when you're doing exactly the same thing except not actually giving any examples.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can make lessers showing up Superman than the team.

And Hulk has been owned by snakes and water. So what? Even if we pretend you don't leave-out context, it's not like bad showings are exclusive to Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't leave out context ever.

Clark's father dying in MAN OF STEEL, the SACRIFICE fight with Wonder Woman, citing Zod and Cyborg-Superman as low showings all prove this an incorrect claim. Either you're lying, or you're delusional.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is my opinion. You cling to high feats of Superman and tend to do the opposite. Opinions vary. Let it go. Hulks win IMO.

You tell me to let it go, and I cling to "high feats of Superman" while you cling to low feats of Superman and continue arguing.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You're as correct as saying Hitler won World War VII.

Why are you not one to talk about others cherry picking? The fact that you do it yourself.

Explain to me how what I'm doing is any more ABC logic than your vague claim. Unless Lobo and Lar Gand fought the Hulk team and I was unaware of it? This right here is straight-up hypocrisy to say I'm using ABC logic when you're doing exactly the same thing except not actually giving any examples.

And Hulk has been owned by snakes and water. So what? Even if we pretend you don't leave-out context, it's not like bad showings are exclusive to Superman.

Clark's father dying in MAN OF STEEL, the SACRIFICE fight with Wonder Woman, citing Zod and Cyborg-Superman as low showings all prove this an incorrect claim. Either you're lying, or you're delusional.

You tell me to let it go, and I cling to "high feats of Superman" while you cling to low feats of Superman and continue arguing.

No, I don't.

It isn't proof of anything here. I can use abc logic so show less than that team beats Superman.

Professor Hulk ? Nah. 🙂

That has nothing to do with anything.

No, I don't.

Superman has portrayals where he has been transformed or externally amped that can beat WB Hulk. Sure.

But WB is JUST Hulk--no special, external power ups. Similar Superman portrayals that can match that are few and far between. Perhaps OWAW Superman at his apex. Or maybe Loeb Superman when he is in an alternate timeline and busts WW's bracelets.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am not.

No, you are not correct. Concessions accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I don't.

Either you're lying, or oblivious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't proof of anything here. I can use abc logic so show less than that team beats Superman.

Nice dodge Quanny. Answer the question. How is what I'm doing any more ABC logic than what you've done? Failure to answer this is concessions to being a hypocrite.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Professor Hulk ? Nah. 🙂

No. But Professor Hulk did end-up stalemating Thing in arm wrestling. And him and a weaker Hulk are supposed to beat Superman, let alone a bloodlusted, CIS-off Superman? See what I did there?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has nothing to do with anything.

You mean examples of you omitting context have nothing to do with replying to you claiming you never omit context?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I don't.

Yes. And why not acknowledge that you're not doing what you're telling me to do? Why am I supposed to "let it go" but you don't? You're replying. You're just as guilty as what you're accusing me of. Worse because it's hypocritical. It's not like you dropped out and I keep posting to bait you into a reply.

Pr posted this:

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, stop ****ing around.

And you both simply ignored it. Delta and Quan, your debate in this thread is over. I get the last word.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Far less has beat him but cherry pick and abc logic away.
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What has defeated a completely unrestrained, bloodlusted Superman in the past?

More importantly, what or whom was able to accomplish this feat while being "FAR LESS" powerful than Grey Hulk and Prof. Hulk?

Originally posted by quanchi112
CIs off doesn't mean a character turns into a killer that is undeniably true.

No sh1t genious

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agreed with that basic statement which doesn't mean it is the same idea for this thread.

Then why mention it? Oh wait, because you were trying to corrupt my argument. But it didn't work

Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Adam in his story wasn't trying to kill everyone in his path.

No one said, he did, that was you TRYING again and FAILING at corrupting my argument 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Once he started engaging he didn't pull his punches and did everything in his power to put down those in front of him. I argued Superman did that from the get go.

😂 What? Unable to kill people weaker than him? what is it what you were really trying to prove mentioning that Black Adam didn't kill every single person in his path? I tell you what it was, you were trying to say that because Black Adam didn't kill every single person in his path, Superman will do the same thing, that is what you were TRYING to do, but as always you failed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your insults are lame like your English.

Not as lame as your reading comprehension skills 😱

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman doesn't hold back just like Black Adam doesn't hold back. Same thing, sport.

So what now?, are TRYING to say that because a non-holding back BA didn't rip Dr. Lights throat, that applies for a non-holding back Superman too? Or because He did not kill all the teen titans Superman will not be able to do it? Get out of here, Quan cakes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You conceded the point. I accepted. 🙂

I conceded nothing, I never made such a claim, you were TRYING to corrupt my argument, keep trying kid

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said Superman wouldn't hold back. When someone hits you as hard as they can people can die. Again, I have always maintained as much so I am still right where I started.

Superman will put people down while going all out. I never disputed this. Calm down and compose yourself.

The flopping of the pancakes is great at this point, you TRY to claim that Superman will not kill or that somehow he will spare people, because BA spared MMH.

But your concession of "someone hitting as hard as they can, can kill someone" is accepted 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
That statement was only in relation to that statement. Cis off in and of itself doesn't turn characters into killers. That is true.

No sh1t genious

Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Adam was not a completely remorseless killed otherwise he wouldn't have spared MM. He wasn't going to give him a second pass. That again is undeniable.

AGAIN I have no idea why you mention "remorse" as remorse has NOTHING to do with this thread.
Superman being blood lusted was already explained to you by PR in real plain English "Superman should/would be willing to kill." or the explanation I gave: "On the second scenario Superman will give little to no regard on the other characters well being" or the term bloodlust: uncontrollable desire to kill or maim others.

So I have no idea why do you have to mention this "remorse" thing again, If Superman will have remorse killing Hulk is something WE don't care, Superman may or may not kill hulk as well as may or may not maim Hulk, but He will give little to no regard to the well being of others, that is pretty much clear

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I ever say Superman would pull his punches against Namor ? Never did. 😄

No you didn't I was just citing a random example

Originally posted by quanchi112
The end of yours is a rant which has nothing to do with the debate itself.

Yeah I understand that You are scared, NP, I have always know that you are a little scared kid. who can't man up and concede when he is proven wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see him going down to the pair of Hulks, 10/10. Too much for him.

Most boards agree Hulk at his best is beyond Superman nowadays. Things have changed.

This argument deserves this

AAAAAAAAND SINCE I just could not let this one go

Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Adam let him (MMH) go due to their friendship.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!

When has MMH and Black Adam being friends???

This is another fine example of your reading comprehension skills

kin·ship
1. Connection by blood, marriage, or adoption; family relationship.
2. Relationship by nature or character; affinity.

In this case BA spared MMH because he felt a connection with MMH loss of his family, like He had just experienced, He did not spared him because they were "FRIENDS"

My stance stays

Originally posted by Rao Kal El

On the second scenario Superman will give little to no regard on the other characters well being, So he does not care if he kills them, maim them, cripple them, lobotomize them, burn them or drill holes at super speed on their chest.

He clears the second round.

So stop trying to pick and choose IF Superman will kill or not, IF he will kill everyone or just a few, Superman is BLOOD LUSTED like BA, therefore He will give little or no regard for the safety of others, he may kill them, cripple them, maim them or anything in the book. And now YOU agree to this, so concessions accepted and moving on.

So Quani, is Superman killing someone going all out, or somehow going all out blood lusted he will have "remorse" and will spare them?

I don't want to get warned so... Have good day my friend 😆

As for the thread

Superman clears the second round for SURE.

He may or may not clear the first one

clears it.

i dont think supes gets past the ww hulk and on i just dont see it those hulks are on a seperate plane ther just to strong and durable he is going to get a considerable amount down tho

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
i dont think supes gets past the ww hulk and on i just dont see it those hulks are on a seperate plane ther just to strong and durable he is going to get a considerable amount down tho

World War Hulk who was exhausted by The Sentry is on a "Seperate" plane than an unrestrained Superman?

That makes no sense.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
World War Hulk who was exhausted by The Sentry is on a "Seperate" plane than an unrestrained Superman?

That makes no sense.

But Sentry is on a separate plane than an unrestrained Superman <_>

I'm not even speaking about WW Hulk, since the portrayal of the Hulk in that arc was actually kinda good, even though the PIS involved was ridiculous, but ...

Savage Hulk at his best has durability that is >>> Superman's (even unrestrained) damage output at his best

Savage Hulk at his best has damage output that is >>> Superman's (even unrestrained) durability

Superman and Hulk are both stupid characters, who achieve stuff by punching harder than before, so I could care less who wins in a fight between the two of them. But by going on panel stuff, then Superman wouldn't be able to do all too much to the Hulk, who has taken Galactus' blasts to the face before. Or are you now going to argue that Superman can dish out more damage than Galactus? Guess what... he can't.

Originally posted by Enzeru
But Sentry is on a separate plane than an unrestrained Superman <_>

Sentry fears an unleashed Superman!

Hulk has been KO'd before and would lose consciousness again if he faced an all out Superman.

Originally posted by Enzeru
But Sentry is on a separate plane than an unrestrained Superman <_>

I'm not even speaking about WW Hulk, since the portrayal of the Hulk in that arc was actually kinda good, even though the PIS involved was ridiculous, but ...

Savage Hulk at his best has durability that is >>> Superman's (even unrestrained) damage output at his best

Savage Hulk at his best has damage output that is >>> Superman's (even unrestrained) durability

Superman and Hulk are both stupid characters, who achieve stuff by punching harder than before, so I could care less who wins in a fight between the two of them. But by going on panel stuff, then Superman wouldn't be able to do all too much to the Hulk, who has taken Galactus' blasts to the face before. Or are you now going to argue that Superman can dish out more damage than Galactus? Guess what... he can't.

You can't be serious. I mean, I know you don't like Superman, but jeez.

Uh...

Anyway, Galactus was hungry at the time, and just casually fired a blast at Hulk.
But using that as a point, Sentry wouldn't be able to do anything to Hulk either. 🙂

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Uh...

Anyway, Galactus was hungry at the time, and just casually fired a blast at Hulk.
But using that as a point, Sentry wouldn't be able to do anything to Hulk either. 🙂

Why not? He stalemated Galactus after all 💃

Besides that, that's not Hulk's only feat that puts his durability above Superman's damage output. Let's face it, Thor and Hulk have some Silver Age Superman like crap and for them it's still canon, while all the utter nonsense has been retconned for Superdudebro.