Originally posted by Quincy
And yet The Judge made a profit? Budget$50 million Box office $83.7 million?Is your line of thinking just, a box office star can't have a movie that doesn't make a profit?
Because that's not a thing that exists in hollywood
$83 Mill on a $50 mil budget isn't very good at all, these budgets are only related to production, not including advertising and all the other things outside of actual production and salaries that goes into a film.
Originally posted by relentless1
$83 Mill on a $50 mil budget isn't very good at all, these budgets are only related to production, not including advertising and all the other things outside of actual production and salaries that goes into a film.
The Judge did flop. But the Sherlock Holmes movies both made over $500mill each WW, on budgets of less than $100mill.
So Downey has clearly been a very bankable actor since he joined Marvel.
A flop here and there doesn't change that. Sometimes the movie is just bad, and/or has less than impressive marketing.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
The Judge did flop. But the Sherlock Holmes movies both made over $500mill each WW, on budgets of less than $100mill.So Downey has clearly been a very bankable actor since he joined Marvel.
A flop here and there doesn't change that. Sometimes the movie is just bad, and/or has less than impressive marketing.
Making one or two movies doesn't really make you a bankable movie star. Especially since MOST of his movies don't bring in the dollars. Aside from Sherlock and Iron Man. We don't really live in an era where stars like Will Smith or Tom Cruise guarantees box office success. And the same holds true for Downey.
LOL @ clearly. His other movie Soloist with Jamie Fox bombed too and that was AFTER Iron Man.
Originally posted by Quincy
ZACK WHAT MAKES A MOVIE STAR???WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS?
I'm not saying RDJ isn't a movie star. He certainly is. He's also an A lister in terms of TALENT, but he has hardly ever been a box office draw. It's the exact same with Johnny Depp. I'm a huge fan, but know that he's not a big box office draw.
That's ONE of the definitions of an A lister. Someone who guarantees box office success. Downey isn't really one of them.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/01/26/johnny-depp-was-never-a-movie-star/
Robert Downey Jr. outside of Tony Stark and Sherlock Holmes is not a bankable movie star. Brendan Fraser was only a movie star in the Mummy movies. And Chris Hemsworth isn’t worth much outside of playing Thor. And so it is the same with Johnny Depp, worth his weight in gold when playing Jack Sparrow and teaming with Tim Burton but otherwise at-best an added value element. Johnny Depp doesn’t need career rehab or intervention. He has always marched to the beat of his own drummer, and I imagine films like Mortdecai are very much what he’d like to do with his time in between Pirates sequels and periodic “serious†pictures like the upcoming ensemble Whitey Bulger biopic. There was a time when Johnny Depp was considered box office poison and I truly wanted Burton to cast Brad Pitt in Sleepy Hollow because Burton (post Ed Wood and Mars Attacks!) badly needed a safe hit. Even over a decade after Curse of the Black Pearl, I would still argue he has little drawing power on his own, little ability to get audiences to see a film that they otherwise wouldn’t be interested in. That’s not a knock against him, because I don’t think Mr. Depp ever wanted to be the next Tom Cruise. He is perfectly happy being Johnny Depp, take him or leave him.
Originally posted by Inhuman
In a real world scenario , were an animal has attacked and killed humans, it would be put down immediately. Even more quickly if the animal was in the vicinity of more potential victims.
With lethal means. Heavy ammunition, etc. Not chase it around with tazers , tranquilizer dart guns, and nets.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Again, I did enjoy the film 👆
Yeah, I fucking love this poster. By far the best poster they made...
Originally posted by Quincy
I don't get why having a film that isn't a box office success means that someone is not a movie star?
its the same concept behind WWEs champion being a draw; if biz is up under a certain champ then they are said to be a BO draw, go the other way and it means they weren't. Same goes for films, a top billed actor is that for a reason, to sell tickets, if they can't on a consistent basis then the aren't a movie star that draws, this is why Jack Nicholson was placed top billing over Michael Keaton in Batman 89 because they knew that seeing his name in there would draw crowds more than Keaton at the time.
Originally posted by Quincy
I get that but the implication was that if an actor is in any movie that flops they are instantly not a movie star
Again, he IS a star. Most celebrities are to a certain degree, but he's not a bankable movie star. Read the Forbes article about Johnny Depp. Both Depp and Downey are the most paid stars for Pirates and Iron Man, but outside of that, they don't guarantee box office success.
Originally posted by Zack M
Again, he IS a star. Most celebrities are to a certain degree, but he's not a bankable movie star. Read the Forbes article about Johnny Depp. Both Depp and Downey are the most paid stars for Pirates and Iron Man, but outside of that, they don't guarantee box office success.
What actor does "guarantee" box office success?
Originally posted by Zack MDoesnt change the fact Iron Man 3 obliterated Man of Steel.
Again, he IS a star. Most celebrities are to a certain degree, but he's not a bankable movie star. Read the Forbes article about Johnny Depp. Both Depp and Downey are the most paid stars for Pirates and Iron Man, but outside of that, they don't guarantee box office success.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yea why the fck are people talking about Marvel in a Jurassic Park thread.Get over it already, serious butt hurt combined with massive anal bleeding going on.
Nobody is butthurt, just debating on whether or not someone is a bankable star. It just so happens it's somewhat Marvel related.