Exar Kun vs. Yoda

Combatants: Exar Kun, at the height of his power during The Sith War vs. ROTS Yoda.

Setting: The Roman Coliseum during its structural prime.

Rules: There are none. A straightforward battle to the death!

[Mills Lane] Let's get it on! [/Mills Lane]

Before you harp on the fact that this thread has been done before in several shapes, that doesn't make it a bad idea to bring the fight up again in a fresh context. I should note that – in this thread – anyone who posts "Yoda" or "Kun" and doesn't provide any viable reasoning (through logic, feats, quotes, or otherwise) will be reported for off-topic posting. 😉

Yoda...

im going to go with yoda...

i feel hes a much better lightsaber and force combatant. the location favors them both equally well since they both use styles that require space.

*shrug*

as far as exar kuns force feats go his most impressive to my knowledge is his senate chamber freezing. i dont like to consider it in fights because we dont know if he prepared the technique prior to casting it or if he requires intense concentration to use it. he wont have the luxery of either in this fight im assuming.

it just occured to me that the woman in your signature is holding a grenade with the pin pulled... what is the symbolic context for that picture?

Kun with amulets?

Originally posted by truejedi
Kun with amulets?

Exar Kun, at the height of his power during The Sith War

forgot about the amulets.

Yes, Kun's got the amulets; he's not fighting naked. Unless mentioned otherwise (and I usually don't restrict anything), my threads assume that the characters have all the equipment they regularly are armed with for personal combat.

Originally posted by ares834
Yoda...

GTFO.

well, obviously not naked, but am i wrong to think that Kun also had a lightsaber WITH the amulets? I don't do comics myself, so my knowledge of Kun is limited.

he does.

he cant use both the amulet with the lightsaber at the same time however as the 'saber staff requires both hands. that can be his downfall. i dont know if kun can track someone moving as fast as yoda and keep him at range. if yoda somehow manages to close the distance kun would have to drop the amulet and take out his lightsaber before yoda could get a strike in...

How far apart are they at the start of the match?

Kun had the gauntlet equipped at all times after he gains it during Dark Lords of the Sith.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
if yoda somehow manages to close the distance kun would have to drop the amulet and take out his lightsaber before yoda could get a strike in...

Edit: Ninjad

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
he cant use both the amulet with the lightsaber at the same time however as the 'saber staff requires both hands.

That's entirely inaccurate, at least in Kun's case. His double-bladed lightsaber had a hilt that was the same size as a normal saber's. Against Vodo, he's shown wielding it with only one hand.

hmm... does he ever use the amulet against another very powerful force user? or is it quoted as being unblockable? Just wondering if we know for certain Yoda would even need to dodge.

Getting a feel for Kun outside of Jedi Academy, which is the only series i know him from.

No, because there wasn't anybody dangerous enough to use it against.

Originally posted by Advent
That's entirely inaccurate, at least in Kun's case. His double-bladed lightsaber had a hilt that was the same size as a normal saber's. Against Vodo, he's shown wielding it with only one hand.

which i always found to be completely retarded. he always struck me as kind of a dumbass because of that... how are you supposed to use a double bladed lightsaber with one hand?

Exar Kun's amulets are strapped to his hands.

Edit: Ninjad

ah; i havent read that particular comic in a long time. he takes the healthy majority then imo.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
which i always found to be completely retarded. he always struck me as kind of a dumbass because of that... how are you supposed to use a double bladed lightsaber with one hand?

So how is he suppose to use two hands without getting one of his hands burned? 😆

Originally posted by truejedi
hmm... does he ever use the amulet against another very powerful force user? or is it quoted as being unblockable? Just wondering if we know for certain Yoda would even need to dodge.

Getting a feel for Kun outside of Jedi Academy, which is the only series i know him from.

For the record, no, he hasn't used the amulet in a battle with a Force user and, no, it isn't explicitly stated that it can't be blocked. But explain what Yoda is going to have to do, and the energy he's going to expend doing such. The blasts are a physical manifestation of pure dark side energy. The gauntlet is capable of causing explosions that nearly match the size of the Sith Wyrm. In the comic, humans (Exar and the Massassi) are shown to relative specks by comparison to the beast and the detonation of the beams’ impact. The beams effortlessly tear through solid temple rock and alchemical-modified hide. They can be fired with no apparent downtime and “with every impulse of [Kun's anger], double the power of its discharge”.

Yoda gets the brunt of exhausting himself to Kun's use of barely a fraction of stamina and reserves. He would have to absorb all of that energy or provide a Force defense. He's exhausting himself either way, because if he doesn't dissipate the energy because it will cause enormous explosions to his immediate location.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
No, because there wasn't anybody dangerous enough to use it against.

so we certainly can't consider them an automatic win if he does manage to aim them at yoda correctly can we?

In that case, I'm going to go Yoda. The "most powerful foe the darkness had ever known" fought the "most powerful Sith Lord in history" to a standstill. Said Sith Lord even tried to run from Yoda at the beginning of their duel.

Not knowing enough about Kun to offer reasons why he would lose, I merely stand on what is known of Yoda until someone can dissuade me with feats or quotes. 🙂

i mean wtf srsly. does he spin it like a baton and shit?

also how can he block strikes with it? if hes holding it in the middle that means a strike to one side would transfer all of the kinetic energy to the least supported part of the weapon. kun wouldnt even have the strength to guard any swings made by someone with above average strength...

i change my mind about vader vs. exar kun. vader would destroy exar kun in a lightsaber duel. 😐

but on a serious note, has there ever been a limit to the size of his amulet beams? yoda has dodged missiles and shite. it stands to reason he could dodge a beam. especially if hes moving fast enough to stay ahead of exar's traking arm.

Originally posted by Advent
For the record, no, he hasn't used the amulet in a battle with a Force user and, no, it isn't explicitly stated that it can't be blocked. But explain what Yoda is going to have to do, and the energy he's going to expend doing such. The blasts are a physical manifestation of pure dark side energy. The gauntlet is capable of causing explosions that nearly match the size of the Sith Wyrm. In the comic, humans (Exar and the Massassi) are shown to relative specks by comparison to the beast and the detonation of the beams’ impact. The beams effortlessly tear through solid temple rock and alchemical-modified hide. They can be fired with no apparent downtime and “with every impulse of [Kun's anger], [b]double the power of its discharge”.

Yoda gets the brunt of exhausting himself to Kun's use of barely a fraction of stamina and reserves. He would have to absorb all of that energy or provide a Force defense. He's exhausting himself either way, because if he doesn't dissipate the energy because it will cause enormous explosions to his immediate location. [/B]

Can it be argued that yoda could move fast enough to dodge the blasts?