Have you ignored KMC for the past three days?
Originally posted by Advent
The NEC quote in particular because the narrator of the source could not measure Palpatine's Force power in comparison to any Sith Lord. I don't think Voren had ever been in the same room as him, and he certainly never met the thousands of Sith Lords that came before Palpatine. Since he logically cannot know the personal power of the people he's judging, he cannot make that claim.Another example would be the one in Vader: The Ultimate Guide:
"Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known."
We're given the definition of what 'power' means in the context of this sentence at the beginning. '[b]Vader imagined the power that could be his
if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire'. It's obvious then that galactic dominance and having reign over a militant empire is what 'power' was alluding to. You can't find a single person with the exception of Captain Falcon that wouldn't be hard-pressed to single-handedly overthrow the man who commands the entire Galactic Empire.[/B]
Originally posted by Advent
Oops, I actually didn't provide the full quote last night! 😮"The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of Force. He was the most powerful Sith who ever existed.
[b]As would Vader be, someday.
"Well, that was a blunder. The book is written in the same fashion as the RotS novelization — it is third-person limited perspective. That means everything we're reading is coming from the extent of one's characters mind (it jumps around from one person to the next), but is written in the form of third-person.
It's value is nothing since it's coming from Vader's subjective observations.[/B]
Originally posted by Advent
"Palpatine, the most powerful sith lord who ever lived had returned [...]"The author of the series and source book wrote them at a time when Kun didn't even exist. That means we know Exar Kun definitively wasn't considered when that statement was made (ergo invalid). The quote in the Official Fact File, however, was stated after the establishment of Exar Kun as a character and took into consideration Sith Lords like Palpatine. Hence the DE source book quote being nugatory when compared to the later source.
The quotes from tNEC, Vader: Ultimate Guide, Death Star, and Dark Empire Sourcebook are all but nugatory. Care to produce any more of these "many" quotes?
Yes, I'll do that in a bit. Keep in mind that the rest of the quotes are supported by Palpatine's feats. You have 1 quote for Kun unsupported by feats. We also have KJA's email to LS that took hours to find.
First of all, you can't wave around quotes if you haven't produced them. As usual, you're making claims without proof. It's your opinion that Kun's showing don't support him being the most powerful. They support him being the most powerful if he is, and according to that canon statement at least, he is.
Second, a fabricated e-mail that supposed to be from Kevin Anderson doesn't mean jack shit.
Originally posted by Advent
First of all, you can't wave around quotes if you haven't produced them. As usual, you're making claims without proof. It's your opinion that Kun's showing don't support him being the most powerful. They support him being the most powerful if he is, and according to that canon statement at least, he is.Second, a fabricated e-mail that supposed to be from Kevin Anderson doesn't mean jack shit.
Ah, so Advent is going down the road of "LOLZ ITS FAKE". Ok, I accept your concession.
Secondly, it's not my OPINION it's FACT when Palpatine's feats completely TRUMP Kun's.
Finally, nobody is better at making shit up than you Advent. Repeating what I just said makes you look ridiculously. You need to cool off because it's obvious when you're mad.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
So you're wanting to use Yoda's fight against Sidious as proof that Sidious is so good that Yoda fighting is evidence that Yoda would beat Exar? WTF
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
What the hell once again? You want me to prove that Sidious is more powerful than Kun by explaining what he did and didn't do in a fight with Yoda? You're giving me internet blue balls.
Seriously dude, you are the one who started proclaiming Sidious has sooo many feats. Offer some specifics, or there isn't an argument for us to have.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Seriously dude, you are the one who started proclaiming Sidious has sooo many feats. Offer some specifics, or there isn't an argument for us to have.
Yes, I'm claiming he has a RIDICULOUS amount of feats. Read Gideon's essay. And your response is "show us what he did in fight x"? Wow.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Extreme TK and powerful lightning.
Pretty pathetic examples. Try and be more specific next time.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Can I ask the same about what Kun did in his duels?
Freezing the entire Senate (millions) and killing one of the Order's top Jedi.
Killing the only Jedi to modify the Jedi Code with a mere whim.
Surviving the combined assault of a small Jedi army. (He lost his body, but survival is survival).
Killed Sith wyrm, which is pretty dang powerful.
Killed Freedon Nadd, who was also extremely powerful (Sadow's apprentice, conquered planet, spirit powerful enough to be serious threat even to Jedi Masters)
Invented the double bladed lightsaber and his own style, which was never able to be replicated.
What can you offer for Sidious???