Anakin Skywalker (AOTC) vs. Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)

Started by Man of Christ6 pages
Originally posted by BoratBorat
That is because most people in christianity are so damn gullible and can't think for themselves.

martin luther king? a christian, thomas aquinas? a chirstian.....Jfk a christian....all deep thinkers and individuals who impacted the world....and lets not forget FDR

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
So we can't insult your religion because that would be intolerant, even though religion itself is one of the main causes for intolerance.

Well, he's just saying what the bible is saying and you should listen to it because the bible isn't filled with guidelines you know. Or is it?

Now Man Of Christ, couldn't you figure out that respecting eachother is important without reading the bible or following a religion? I'm not being offensive by the way, I'm being curious as to why most humans don't have the common sense to know right from wrong and need to be spoon fed by religion for this (which isn't exactly bulletproof either).

lets be clear....religion isnt the root of intolerance but the MISAPLICATION OF RELIGION THAT LEADS TO INTOLERANCE

Jesus said Love thy nieghbor as thyself...which is quite the opposite of intolerance

Originally posted by Man of Christ

third of all you called me a man of crap when my screen name is man of christ....a 4 year old could detect that you intened to take a stab at my religion.

He didn't take a stab at your religion... That's what you made of it. He meant that you were full of crap.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
He didn't take a stab at your religion... That's what you made of it. He meant that you were full of crap.

then he could have said i am full of crap but to make it sound nearly identical to my screen name is evident that he didn intend to insult my religion, espcecially when you put it in the context of the other things he has said about christians

Originally posted by Man of Christ
no one should have to earn respect when all are equal

Except God, Christ or the Pope... They are just a little more equal than us right?

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Except God, Christ or the Pope... They are just a little more equal than us right?

i dont see quite what you are saying here beccause they are all intrinsically respected of many....God shoudnt have to earn respect neither should anyone else.....please elaborate what you mean here

to get this a little back on track, I say Anakin. I mean, Luke's barely trained around ROTJ, and Anakin was "properly" trained. And Anakin held his own against Dooku, and Vader in ROTJ was holding back... so.. yeah.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
when it comes to the actual arguments regarding star wars again you fail to understand that this isnt a contest and that as equals we should just agree to disagree like repsonsible adults...not like children who need to feel like they won a petty disagreement.
Maybe i just went a little too far.. sometimes i just get too caught up and forget that arguing about fiction is pointless.
Originally posted by Man of Christ

second you did insult my religion when you argued that christian extremists cannot admit when they are wrong....
That i will admit im wrong but [joke]Thank god your not a muslim or i would have found a bomb in my drawer.[/joke] 😆
Originally posted by Man of Christ

i brough in the scripture to show that even to the christian extremists admittting when you are wrong is MANDATED not DISCOURAGED in christianity.
Do you really need to bring the scriptures into a childish debate? Look for my sake just leave religion out of the picture.
Originally posted by Man of Christ

third of all you called me a man of crap when my screen name is man of christ....a 4 year old could detect that you intened to take a stab at my religion.
Wtf, when i said your a man of "crap" i was referring to you being full of shit, that was never an attack on god, jesus or christianity.

Originally posted by Man of Christ

christianity doesnt promote genocide and slavery but you are unfamiliar with the bible so im not suprised you think so
and 2 last things.....
I'm going to let this one pass, its unfair to attack the bible anyways but i am familiar with it, not as familiar as you are with it.

I WAS a catholic until i recently renounced my faith in god, you have no idea of the amount of bullshit i have seen in my own church, in my own cell group and the shit they try to spew, they give all catholics and christians a bad name and think their opinions are universal fact.

It was because of them i started to hate god and hate religion, im sorry if you felt offended when i called you "man of crap" but as i said earlier, that was calling you out on being full of rubbish, not an attack on god.

I know not everyone is perfect but they act like they are perfect beings and treat their opinions as universal fact, because of them i despise the idea of a god and all other christians and religions.

Originally posted by Man of Christ

1) to say that someone only deserves to be respected when they agree with you is to say that you dont believe everyone is equal...and that is a mentality that has led to racism and sexism which i am sure that you do not want to be associated with.

2) telling me to shut the H*ll up and calling me a D*(K head as you just did are a violation of the terms of use of this forum and someothing you shouldnt be doing

Im sorry so just forget it.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
to get this a little back on track, I say Anakin. I mean, Luke's barely trained around ROTJ, and Anakin was "properly" trained. And Anakin held his own against Dooku, and Vader in ROTJ was holding back... so.. yeah.

can we JUST please get back on topic? I barely go on the SW forums, and I run into this.

Nobody takes the SW forums seriously, dont like what your seeing then bugger off.

Its better to derail the topic a little bit to understand each other a little bit more than attack each other when we disagree.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
Nobody takes the SW forums seriously, dont like what your seeing then bugger off.

Its better to derail the topic a little bit to understand each other a little bit more than attack each other when we disagree.

I hang around here sometimes, so I kinda know the drill. 😛 I was just trying to get it a little back on topic. it's a little hard to be sarcastic online, sorry.

Originally posted by BoratBorat
Maybe i just went a little too far.. sometimes i just get too caught up and forget that arguing about fiction is pointless.
That i will admit im wrong but [joke]Thank god your not a muslim or i would have found a bomb in my drawer.[/joke] 😆
Do you [b]really
need to bring the scriptures into a childish debate? Look for my sake just leave religion out of the picture.
Wtf, when i said your a man of "crap" i was referring to you being full of shit, that was never an attack on god, jesus or christianity.

I'm going to let this one pass, its unfair to attack the bible anyways but i am familiar with it, not as familiar as you are with it.

I WAS a catholic until i recently renounced my faith in god, you have no idea of the amount of bullshit i have seen in my own church, in my own cell group and the shit they try to spew, they give all catholics and christians a bad name and think their opinions are universal fact.

It was because of them i started to hate god and hate religion, im sorry if you felt offended when i called you "man of crap" but as i said earlier, that was calling you out on being full of rubbish, not an attack on god.

I know not everyone is perfect but they act like they are perfect beings and treat their opinions as universal fact, because of them i despise the idea of a god and all other christians and religions.

Im sorry so just forget it. [/B]

understood...as a side note i only brought in scripture because you were making statements about Christian extremists that were paradoxical......and lastly i am a baptist cleric who has seen my fair share of church hypocrisy as well....being a man who went to catholics schools i share in your dissilussionment with the catholic church.....but overall.....i respect you and hope we can move forward from this

Originally posted by Man of Christ
lets be clear....religion isnt the root of intolerance but the MISAPLICATION OF RELIGION THAT LEADS TO INTOLERANCE

Jesus said Love thy nieghbor as thyself...which is quite the opposite of intolerance

Exactly, and there have been A LOT of misapplications of religion, just read some history and you'll come across them. So if there was never a Religion in the first place, there would have never been misapplications.

So to what I was saying earlier, it's not because Jesus said that you should 'love thy neighbour' aka 'respect eachother', that you shouldn't have figured that out for yourself.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
then he could have said i am full of crap but to make it sound nearly identical to my screen name is evident that he didn intend to insult my religion, espcecially when you put it in the context of the other things he has said about christians

If I'm reading correctly, he said that after you went all touchy about it.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
i dont see quite what you are saying here beccause they are all intrinsically respected of many....God shoudnt have to earn respect neither should anyone else.....please elaborate what you mean here

I'm comparing it to Communism.

In my opinion, Religion is highly unnecessary. Like I said before, people should learn to think for themselves and not let some Bible or Christ do the thinking for them.

No problem, but you win the debate, i don't want to argue about stuff that isn't going to change our lives.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Exactly, and there have been A LOT of misapplications of religion, just read some history and you'll come across them. So if there was never a Religion in the first place, there would have never been misapplications.

So to what I was saying earlier, it's not because Jesus said that you should 'love thy neighbour' aka 'respect eachother', that you shouldn't have figured that out for yourself.

If I'm reading correctly, he said that after you went all touchy about it.

I'm comparing it to Communism.

In my opinion, Religion is highly unnecessary. Like I said before, people should learn to think for themselves and not let some Bible or Christ do the thinking for them.

we are competitive by our very nature....even if we didnt have religion we would still have something to fight about...im sure you have known a few atheists to be contentious as well....plus i think the social commentary behind the 2 part atheist episode in south park eloquently explains what i am trying to say....you know the episode where Dawkings gets involved with mr garrison...even though the nation became filled with atheists they still found something to fight over...so its not religion that causes these problems

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I hang around here sometimes, so I kinda know the drill. 😛 I was just trying to get it a little back on topic. it's a little hard to be sarcastic online, sorry.

Nice try, but many have done that and failed.

By the way, sarcasm is sexy, but the effect it has online just isn't the same as in rl.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Nice try, but many have done that and failed.

By the way, sarcasm is sexy, but the effect it has online just isn't the same as in rl.

thanks, I think.

I agree - it just isn't the same. there's no apparent stress and expression on online conversations. Oh well. I think I'm just going to watch read you guys talk.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
we are competitive by our very nature....even if we didnt have religion we would still have something to fight about...im sure you have known a few atheists to be contentious as well....plus i think the social commentary behind the 2 part atheist episode in south park eloquently explains what i am trying to say....you know the episode where Dawkings gets involved with mr garrison...even though the nation became filled with atheists they still found something to fight over...so its not religion that causes these problems

There are other more greater problems like the need for possession, but suicide bombers for example wouldn't do something like that if their faith hadn't totally brainwashed them by promising them a great afterlife.

My question still remains though, do we really need the Bible to tell us what to do?

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
thanks, I think.

I agree - it just isn't the same. there's no apparent stress and expression on online conversations. Oh well. I think I'm just going to watch read you guys talk.

Oh, but we're boring. Best cure for insomnia ever.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Oh, but we're boring. Best cure for insomnia ever.

it's almost midnight here, so i guess, if what you're saying is true, then you guys can totally help.