Anakin Skywalker (AOTC) vs. Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)

Started by Man of Christ6 pages

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
There are other more greater problems like the need for possession, but suicide bombers for example wouldn't do something like that if their faith hadn't totally brainwashed them by promising them a great afterlife.

My question still remains though, do we really need the Bible to tell us what to do?

yes but there are equally devastating motives that are non religous, like when native american were wipped out, it wasnt because of religous differences...they just wanted out land, and look what happened...i would say small pox to us was just as devastating at least.

and as a response to your last question....as a christian my answer would be yes, and this is due to my beliefs...which are that without the bible we can live a good life but being a good person doesnt equate to being right with God....again this is not be trying to trash what you believe or dont believe its what i believ.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
it's almost midnight here, so i guess, if what you're saying is true, then you guys can totally help.

Yeah I know, but the activity around this hour is too low to help you right now.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Yeah I know, but the activity around this hour is too low to help you right now.
3:40 i nthe afternoon here, /flex

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Yeah I know, but the activity around this hour is too low to help you right now.

I know, but I'm being entertained. I like reading stuff like what you and Man of Christ are talking about right now. don't ask why - because I don't know, either.

Originally posted by mattatom
3:40 i nthe afternoon here, /flex

My hero!!

Aren't you supposed to be in Canada?

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I know, but I'm being entertained. I like reading stuff like what you and Man of Christ are talking about right now. don't ask why - because I don't know, either.

Well, look forward to the moment I really try to entertain you then! Yeah, that sounded less perverted in my mind.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC

Well, look forward to the moment I really try to entertain you then! Yeah, that sounded less perverted in my mind.

😂 I can't wait, I think.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
yes but there are equally devastating motives that are non religous, like when native american were wipped out, it wasnt because of religous differences...they just wanted out land, and look what happened...i would say small pox to us was just as devastating at least.

and as a response to your last question....as a christian my answer would be yes, and this is due to my beliefs...which are that without the bible we can live a good life but being a good person doesnt equate to being right with God....again this is not be trying to trash what you believe or dont believe its what i believ.

I totally overlooked this...

Okay, I still don't know why people believe there is a God that has the ability to say you're a good person or not. In a way, I am more free because I don't have to think about it. I just try to live a good life while being a good person by looking out for myself while also considering other people.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
😂 I can't wait, I think.

Me neither!! ... w8wut

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
I totally overlooked this...

Me neither!! ... w8wut

I was wondering a little why you didn't answer that one - i was waiting for it. 😛

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I was wondering a little why you didn't answer that one - i was waiting for it. 😛

It was actually your fault... 🙄

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
It was actually your fault... 🙄

I should have called you on it. 😄

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I should have called you on it. 😄

Yes, yes you should have. Don't forget it next time or I'll post an angry smiley face.

Now, shouldn't you be going to sleep yet?

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Yes, yes you should have. Don't forget it next time or I'll post an angry smiley face.

Now, shouldn't you be going to sleep yet?


no, not the angry smiley face, that scares me! 🙄

Yeah, I know. Classes start tomorrow, darnit. Yeah, probably should go to bed. Good night people who care... and good night, slash. well, technically morning, but...

I'm just gonna go to bed now.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
no, not the angry smiley face, that scares me! 🙄

Yeah, I know. Classes start tomorrow, darnit. Yeah, probably should go to bed. Good night people who care... and good night, slash. well, technically morning, but...

I'm just gonna go to bed now.

Classes have already started for me, but I barely have any so I can't complain. Anyways, good night hun. x

good grief people. I leave for what i think is the middle of the night, and come back to 2 pages of comments? hardcore ya'all.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Anakin had 10 years under an order that was 20,000+ years old, was at its prime, and under Obi Wan Kenobi, one of the greatest jedi of all time.

But then again, apparently Luke by DE had surpassed ROTS Anakin, so maybe Luke is just a very fast learner.

What, Yoda and Obi-wan are now unprofessional? I think that Luke would put up a good fight, if not win. I mean he was trained by YODA and Obi Wan I find your argument immaterial.

Originally posted by truejedi
good grief people. I leave for what i think is the middle of the night, and come back to 2 pages of comments? hardcore ya'all.

That's only for a small bit my fault.

...now to your more riddiculous point.....first of all it is not a sin to be on a forum but you would only know that if you read the Bible...
second of all....this is my spare time...i do evangelizing durring the day....so cease attacking me as i have done nothing wrong...i have respected you , and i deserve to be respected by you

✅ You are correct sir.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
If you have to make a demand to someone to be respected, then you don't deserve it.

Didn't seem like a demand to me, simply a reasonable statement.

when it comes to the actual arguments regarding star wars again you fail to understand that this isnt a contest and that as equals we should just agree to disagree like repsonsible adults...not like children who need to feel like they won a petty disagreement.

Adults talking about a thirty year old franchise that caters to prepubescent children. Got it.


third of all you called me a man of crap when my screen name is man of christ....a 4 year old could detect that you intened to take a stab at my religion.

No, a four year old could not tell that, because that is absolute bullshiit. The jab was a play on your name, in the same way that I might call Gideon "Gaydeon," Slash KMC "Gay KMC," or TrueJedi... wait for it... "
Spoiler:
stoopidJedi
."

That the portion of your name that was mutated in the service of humor is a pillar of your faith has nothing to do with prejudice and everything to do with that higher calling: wordplay.


christianity doesnt promote genocide and slavery but you are unfamiliar with the bible so im not suprised you think so

"Observe what I command you this day. Behold, I am driving out from before you the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite. Take heed to yourself, lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land where you are going, lest it be a snare in your midst. But you shall destroy their altars, break their sacred pillars, and cut down their wooden images (For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.)"

Exodus, Chapter 34, verses 11-14

"You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you. Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight; your enemies shall fall by the sword before you. For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you. You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new."

Leviticus, Chapter 26, verses 7-9

""Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers. He also said, 'Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. May God extend the territory of Japheth; may Japeth live in the tents of Shem and may Canaan be his slave'. "

Genesis 9:25-27

"If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever."
Exodus 21:2-6 NLT


and 2 last things.....1) to say that someone only deserves to be respected when they agree with you is to say that you dont believe everyone is equal...and that is a mentality that has led to racism and sexism which i am sure that you do not want to be associated with.

w8wut?
Premise: If someone is equal, then they deserve to be respected.
Contrapositive: If someone is not equal, then they do not deserve to be respected.
Premise: Everyone is equal
Conclusion: Everyone deserves to be respected.
You're saying that Stalin (dodged a Godwin there!) deserves to be respected the same as Ghandi? Ghandi is equal to one of the most oppressive dictators in all of history?


we are competitive by our very nature....even if we didnt have religion we would still have something to fight about...im sure you have known a few atheists to be contentious as well....

Slash: Religion is the cause of a lot of destructive competition.
You: But non-religious people are competitive!
=
Slash: Flamethrowers start fires.
You: But people without flamethrowers start fires too!

Religion, at least in the totalitarian form that figures so prominently in the history of civilization, is necessarily contentious. Absolutism tends to lean that way.

plus i think the social commentary behind the 2 part atheist episode in south park eloquently explains what i am trying to say....you know the episode where Dawkings gets involved with mr garrison...even though the nation became filled with atheists they still found something to fight over...so its not religion that causes these problems


yes but there are equally devastating motives that are non religous, like when native american were wipped out, it wasnt because of religous differences...

1. Yes it was.
2. For the love of baby Yahwe Jr. man! Spellcheck!

they just wanted out land, and look what happened...i would say small pox to us was just as devastating at least.

You seem to be using words of some kind...
Am I wrong in this interpretation of the collection of symbols reproduced above?

Ell-Ohh-Ell