Originally posted by EvilAngelWon't that be like me making a thread where I put a Sora against Ares and just have Ares out of far distance place that said in a realm and just have sora fight a endless enemies and Ares while on the out side can just mind rape and set metahuman on fire? and do so repeatedly? Despite he wasn't shown doing that?
In the game he appears infront of Sora for Sora to attack him.In this thread we consider they fight to the best of their abilities =\
Originally posted by Phanteros
Won't that be like me making a thread where I put a Sora against Ares and just have Ares out of far distance place that said in a realm and just have sora fight a endless enemies and Ares while on the out side can just mind rape and set metahuman on fire? and do so repeatedly? Despite he wasn't shown doing that?
If by the thread rules he could have unlimited army sure. But that would be spite would it not?
I'm giving an exapme of what Xigbar is capable of.
Imagine this fight, but he doesn't enter range. What is Kratos going to do? shout insults at him?
Note Kratos cannot reflect the bullets. Here's why, Sora's teleports to where Xigbar would redirect them and reflects them back on course. Hence Xigbar says "Clever little sneak"
If you mean Xigbar then yes, but he would die to.
While he's taking it out, he's NOT blocking attacks. So yeah, he could, but either way he stops Definitely at Xigbar.
That said that might not work. Organization have proven to be immune against other worldly powers. Like the curse of the gold of the Aztecs in the pirates of the Caribbean, it had no effects on them. Why exactly would the head? i mean, it doesn't work on character in GoW, so we know it doesn't always work. You would need to provide reasons why it would.
Originally posted by Phanteros
I could of sweared that Kratos had range spells and unless they magically went missing.
Do you think they would help him against someone who controls space?
I think they would be redirected back against him, but you're welcome to prove me wrong. If you can
Originally posted by EvilAngelit does work on people in GOW. And you act as if it takes him a long time to pull out the head which takes a gaze to work. Except bosses for obvious reasons.
If you mean Xigbar then yes, but he would die to.While he's taking it out, he's NOT blocking attacks. So yeah, he could, but either way he stops Definitely at Xigbar.
That said that might not work. Organization have proven to be immune against other worldly powers. Like the curse of the gold of the Aztecs in the pirates of the Caribbean, it had no effects on them. Why exactly would the head? i mean, it doesn't work on character in GoW, so we know it doesn't always work. You would need to provide reasons why it would.
Do you think they would help him against someone who controls space?
I think they would be redirected back against him, but you're welcome to prove me wrong. If you can
Originally posted by Phanteros
it does work on people in GOW. And you act as if it takes him a long time to pull out the head which takes a gaze to work. Except bosses for obvious reasons.
If it wasn't clear allow me to rephrase
The head does not turn any enemy into stone. It only works on lesser enemies, and rarely - never on bosses. Therefore it does not always work.
Luxord, a member of Organization XIII stole gold from the curse chest of Aztec gold, yet it had no effect on him. Therefore we know such things just do not work on nobodies. Even powerful curses. You would need to provide reasoning as to why it definately should work on them. Instead of them just being immune to it as they have been to things similar.
Originally posted by Phanteros
You didn't read the last sentence I made. Obvious reasons it will not work on bosses. As for the curse won't by giving it to to the nobodies by passe it? and the fact that Elizabeth wasn't intially effected also raises questions.
Obvious reasons? Which are? if it's that they are bosses, so are All of the Organization XIII members =\
Elizabeth didn't take them from the chest, she took it from someone else.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
If it wasn't clear allow me to rephraseThe head does not turn any enemy into stone. It only works on lesser enemies, and rarely - never on bosses. Therefore it does not always work.
Luxord, a member of Organization XIII stole gold from the curse chest of Aztec gold, yet it had no effect on him. Therefore we know such things just do not work on nobodies. Even powerful curses. You would need to provide reasoning as to why it definately should work on them. Instead of them just being immune to it as they have been to things similar.
Not working on lesser bosses is a gameplay restriction. Not working on Zeus and Ares is due to another reason obviously.
Medusa's gaze? It works on him. Were you standing still? If you roll, it isn't going to work.
Though it may be so pathetically weak in that particular instance simply because it's our first experience with petrification. I cannot remember properly, it's been a long time since I let Medusa use her gaze on me.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Medusa's gaze? It works on him. Were you standing still? If you roll, it isn't going to work.Though it may be so pathetically weak in that particular instance simply because it's our first experience with petrification. I cannot remember properly, it's been a long time since I let Medusa use her gaze on me.
I see so that's it. Well i mean, would it be so unrealistic to assume the orangization members can avoid this?
Well yeah, when you get caught you can break out of it if i remember right. Again, this isn't exactly difficult for most members to do ;p
Rolling only negates it as rolling has i-frames in the game.
If you were to run around, you'd still get stoned. If any organization member is fast enough to dodge Kratos using the actual beam, then sure, it wouldn't work, though there are other moves that could work (such as Gorgon Rage). However, imo, MG was downplayed for gameplay. Just looking at the eyes should turn them to stone.
Thing is, it depends if they are fast enough to break out of it. Anything can break out of the stone form.
However, in greek myth, once you were stoned, you were considered dead. Seeing as I have no clue whether MG would function as it does in gameplay or if the stoned enemy stayed in that form forever, I'll have to go with gameplay.
On the other hand, Kratos could shatter them faster than they could break out of it.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Rolling only negates it as rolling has i-frames in the game.
If you were to run around, you'd still get stoned. If any organization member is fast enough to dodge Kratos using the actual beam, then sure, it wouldn't work, though there are other moves that could work (such as Gorgon Rage). However, imo, MG was downplayed for gameplay. Just looking at the eyes should turn them to stone.Thing is, it depends if they are fast enough to break out of it. Anything can break out of the stone form.
However, in greek myth, once you were stoned, you were considered dead. Seeing as I have no clue whether MG would function as it does in gameplay or if the stoned enemy stayed in that form forever, I'll have to go with gameplay.
On the other hand, Kratos could shatter them faster than they could break out of it.
Most of them are adapt at teleportation. So dodging a beam would not be difficult.
And trust me when i said, Kratos is not at all fast compared to some of these guys.
Take Larxene here
Originally posted by Phanteros
Good thing he can react to all of these guys. and back to Xigbar point. Xigbar has been shown going all out against Sora that was his best of abilities other wise sora will not have a way to hurt him.
Seriously? you think if he was fightnnig seriously he's using his power of space to hover in Sora's face where he could hit him?
That's pretty obvious it was just for the gameplay. The organization members aren't the type to play fair.
1. zexion gets torn apart
2. vexen shares the same fate as zexion
3. see above
4. luxord may pose a challenge to kratos since he's not familiar with card games and dice but with rage of the titans and magic, he'll live
5. kratos is more versatile than lexaeus and this fight won't take that long.
6. the only thing she has over kratos is speed and that can get nullified with the atlas quake. larxene is going down hard once kratos lays his hands on her
7. rage of the titans w/ the flaming tornado ends this fight. i'd imagine marluxia would at least make this difficult
8. rage of the titans + typhon's bow ftw
9. xaldin is just a mix of a few characters that kratos has already dealt with
10. xigbar can teleport but his guns shoot projectiles that kratos can block or reflect. he can shoot as fast as org #2 with the typhon's bow and even create a tornado with it. if things go bad, there's always rage of the titans and its overpowered inferno.
had to contnue on another post since my ps3 has a text limit.
11. roxas is a tough one as he seems t o be on the level of sora's master form. kratos will have to go all out on him.
12. saix could kill kratos but his berserk mode leaves himself pretty vulnerable. his own hammer swords can also be used against him.
13. kratos meets his end here.