Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos adapted immediately an donly survived this awesome power through willpower. Ds has no feats anywhere near this. Cronus went mad when he absorbed the presence's power. I don't think Ds could do it either.
Eh, that the thing apples to oranges D/C to Marvel hard to compare the too directly.
Originally posted by godkingHow so? Ds could never beat a motivated Thanos.
Leaning slightly to darkseid.At the end of the day he wants it more then thanos.
Originally posted by DarkOdinWhy not? It seems beings over in the dcu cannot adapt to godhod like Thanos can. The Spectre and Cronus both lost it.
Eh, that the thing apples to oranges D/C to Marvel hard to compare the too directly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How so? Ds could never beat a motivated Thanos.Why not? It seems beings over in the dcu cannot adapt to godhod like Thanos can. The Spectre and Cronus both lost it.
Well one Thanos was motivated my Death. He now no longer has that kind of motivation. Not to say he has no will or determation but "Love" in comics is the biggest and Thanos no longer has that drive.
As for adapting
Which could be look at two different way
1. Like you mention it they couldn't handle it
2. The presence is too over whelming for anyone person but god to have.
Heck Both the IG and HOTU were both used by other beings one being a plain mortal "Hotu" and the other warlock.
Like i said apples to oranges
Originally posted by DarkOdinThanos wasn't motivated by death in marvel's the end.
Well one Thanos was motivated my Death. He now no longer has that kind of motivation. Not to say he has no will or determation but "Love" in comics is the biggest and Thanos no longer has that drive.As for adapting
Which could be look at two different way
1. Like you mention it they couldn't handle it
2. The presence is too over whelming for anyone person but god to have.
Heck Both the IG and HOTU were both used by other beings one being a plain mortal "Hotu" and the other warlock.
Like i said apples to oranges
1.Because they lack the experience to wield such power along with the proper mindset. Thanos has both.
2.For the Spectre and cronus not Thanos.
The hotu was only wielded directly by Thanos and akh took a long time to adapt to only a portion of the power. No, it's not apples to oranges. Thanos had the willpower to adapt in moments to supremacy. ds can make no such claims. Thanos wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wasn't motivated by death in marvel's the end.1.Because they lack the experience to wield such power along with the proper mindset. Thanos has both.
2.For the Spectre and cronus not Thanos.
The hotu was only wielded directly by Thanos and akh took a long time to adapt to only a portion of the power. No, it's not apples to oranges. Thanos had the willpower to adapt in moments to supremacy. ds can make no such claims. Thanos wins.
Once again two ways of looking at it.
The Ig has be wielded by both Warlock and Thanos. I doubt either one could overpower the other if there was to IG's.
Point was a mortal was able to tap into. Darkseid is no mortal.
You just being one sided as usual for Thanos.
If you want to get Technical about Thanos"like you are with darkseid" only once had supreme power and he gave it up.
So you got one guy"Darkseid" who can't handle the power in you option and another who will give it up "Thanos"
Originally posted by DarkOdinThe ig coul dbe wielded by anyone. It would come down to willpower and I see Thanos getting the better of warlock hence the reason he was selected to obtain the hotu.
Once again two ways of looking at it.The Ig has be wielded by both Warlock and Thanos. I doubt either one could overpower the other if there was to IG's.
Point was a mortal was able to tap into. Darkseid is no mortal.
You just being one sided as usual for Thanos.
If you want to get Technical about Thanos"like you are with darkseid" only once had supreme power and he gave it up.
So you got one guy"Darkseid" who can't handle the power in you option and another who will give it up "Thanos"
A mortal to tap into what? What are you talking about?
No, I am going by the facts and their histories.
Thanos had to give it up. Ds had his power taken away from him and was outplayed by the source when he called Orion into the fray.
Thanos has more impressive willpower and the only person who ever defeated Thanos was himself. This is Thanos' fight to lose and since he usually puts down the competition first it's Thanos' win here.
Originally posted by quanchi112as far as will power alone is concerned, i am of the mind that darkseid has accomplished far more than thanos has.
Who wins this thread though?
ie. through sheer force of will, and under his own power, darkseid essentially flushed the whole of DC down the cosmic toilet. thanos, on the other hand, could never dream of accomplishing a will power feat on that level, without the aid of some uber artifact.
that's all i'm saying...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosistrange... i don't recall TOAA ever saying that... mmm
True and that is impressive. However, I think TOAA saying Thanos was the only one capable of handling the HOTU because his will power was greater than all.. is more impressive IMO.
Originally posted by Galan007
as far as will power alone is concerned, i am of the mind that darkseid has accomplished far more than thanos has.ie. through sheer force of will, and under his own power, darkseid essentially flushed the whole of DC down the cosmic toilet. thanos, on the other hand, could never dream of accomplishing a will power feat on that level, without the aid of some uber artifact.
that's all i'm saying...
strange... i don't recall TOAA ever saying that... mmm
👆 Hit the nail on the head.
Originally posted by Galan007
as far as will power alone is concerned, i am of the mind that darkseid has accomplished far more than thanos has.ie. through sheer force of will, and under his own power, darkseid essentially flushed the whole of DC down the cosmic toilet. thanos, on the other hand, could never dream of accomplishing a will power feat on that level, without the aid of some uber artifact.
Originally posted by King KandyTOAA ultimately allowed thanos to control it's power. if the presence allowed darkseid to control it's power, he could do so as well.
Thanos's willpower took control of the power of TOAA. That's like if Darkseid met the presence and stole his power. Definitely a greater willpower feat.
i understand there was a certain degree of will power involved on thanos' part. however, to say that feat trumps darky's feat of willing the entire DC multiverse to crumble [under his own power] is... meh.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Because two being's with ulitmate power none would have the advantage to say one has better determination or will power is just doesn't even matter at that level.in theroy neither side would win it would be a salemate but i did say thanos might get a 6/10 will b/c he has twice held "ulitmatepower"
Originally posted by Galan007I don't think Ds could survive the raw power or adapt the way in which Thanos did to become the supreme being. He doesn't have the experience to do so.
as far as will power alone is concerned, i am of the mind that darkseid has accomplished far more than thanos has.ie. through sheer force of will, and under his own power, darkseid essentially flushed the whole of DC down the cosmic toilet. thanos, on the other hand, could never dream of accomplishing a will power feat on that level, without the aid of some uber artifact.
that's all i'm saying...
strange... i don't recall TOAA ever saying that... mmm
Ds had the ale though throughout that entire story and that was the reason he defeated the new gods. He needed an angle himself it seems.
I have seen Superman break Darkseid's will before. Just saying.