Angry Gamer sues Bungie, Microsoft

Started by -Pr-6 pages
Originally posted by chithappens
Apply this to music today and you should understand everyone's point.

but music and comics aren't the same thing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
but music and comics aren't the same thing.

so, which comics do you think receive both critical and commercial success?

What is the intellectual best-seller? What is the comic version of Thom York or Beck?

Originally posted by inimalist
so, which comics do you think receive both critical and commercial success?

What is the intellectual best-seller? What is the comic version of Thom York or Beck?

comics like sinestro corps war, astonishing x-men and so on, are prime examples of comics that can be appreciated by any part of the audience. there is the talent in the industry to make comics that appeal to both audiences. my issue is that they don't do it moreso when they have the resources.

Originally posted by -Pr-
but music and comics aren't the same thing.

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I'm sorry it's so difficult to compare and contrast.

And people are saying we don't need more money in education...

Originally posted by chithappens
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I'm sorry it's so difficult to compare and contrast.

And people are saying we don't need more money in education...

comics are a more flexible media than music. one issue of a comic can have several different themes and moods, while its very rare that a song can do the same thing.

my education was just fine, thanks.

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Originally posted by Peach
Also, even though that discussion was on the last page, I really hate when people bring up the McD's coffee lawsuit as an example of something frivolous, because all that does is make you look ignorant. Spend 10 seconds googling it first.

I take issue with this statement, simply because I think people who think the case is NOT frivelous, are ignorant.

The old hag sat in that shit for 60 damn seconds. 60.

WTH is wrong with her? Why did she open it up, in a car, with the cup between her legs? If she's that much of an old person, don't you think she should ask for help.

IMO, McDonald's when about and beyond when they offered to cover the costs of her medical bills. 80/20 fault....yeah right. It was more 99/1, with the woman being mostly at fault.
Other than making hot coffee......hot......what did McDonald's do wrong? They even had the necessary warning on the label that the damn coffee was hot.

Hot coffee, hot schmoffee. That case and your attitude are prime examples of why we need tort reform.

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Actually, I ammend my coffee statement. I would have ordered that her medical bills be payed by McDonalds, and only her medical bills. No more no less. That way, McDonalds has to take responsibility for their neglectful preparation of the coffee, but the woman isn't rewarded for her stupidity.

Well said, sir. Well said. This, I can agree with. It was proven that they made their hot coffee, hotter than normal. However, they had the necessary warning label. She was just being a rather idiotic old lady, atm. I don't understand why it had to be anyone else's fault but her own. Micky D's offer to pay the medical bills was nice....but it took the threat of a lawsuit, no doubt. Personally, I wouldn't have sued...I don't know how me being a dumbass would be anyone's fault but my own.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Again though, that is not the same thing. You are considering the whole line of the product and look at the failure rate of that over a three year period.

That is not the same as the product failing every 50th time it is used.

That's what inimalist tried to tell you, then you repeated the same point again, totally disregarding inimalist's explanation (déjà vu)

It seems you have realized it, but just for good measure.

Slightly tangential of you when we were literally talking about a 1/50 failure rate for electronics. Maybe you quoted the wrong section?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Slightly tangential of you when we were literally talking about a 1/50 failure rate for electronics. Maybe you quoted the wrong section?

No, actually that's my point. You were talking about failure rate of a batch of electronics, which as inimalist tried to point out to you and you disregarded is not the same thing at all to what he was referring to.

Originally posted by -Pr-
but music and comics aren't the same thing.
That is true, I think however that as an analogy music is closer related to comics than comics to video games, especially in that aspect.

Originally posted by -Pr-
comics like sinestro corps war, astonishing x-men and so on, are prime examples of comics that can be appreciated by any part of the audience. there is the talent in the industry to make comics that appeal to both audiences. my issue is that they don't do it moreso when they have the resources.

fair enough, we just have different ideas about what makes a good adult comic.

I'm talking stuff like "Nightly News" or "Spider-man: Reign", but that might just be taste.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Slightly tangential of you when we were literally talking about a 1/50 failure rate for electronics. Maybe you quoted the wrong section?

no man, Bards is right. I might have used the wrong expression or something, but I was never talking about the overall failure rate of a line of products.

Originally posted by -Pr-
comics are a more flexible media than music. one issue of a comic can have several different themes and moods, while its very rare that a song can do the same thing.

my education was just fine, thanks.

+_+ ... frusty

Yes comics have more flexibility in media because It comes down to money and greed.

No one gives a shit about comics because it deosnt make money. Music, Games and Movies are the biggest money makes for media. This is why we wont see for a long time Marvel/DC trying to take someone to court for piracy over comics. But they will charge a single mother for Dling 24 songs 2 Million or 80000 per song and possible jail time.

Comics and the other media are different.

That poofter who is trying to sue MS/Bungie saw a window of opportunity to make millions and is going with it. Just like that idiot Woman who burnt herself on coffee.

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Originally posted by The Nuul
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BTW is this loser with no life suing over a glitch or lag?

That's the road he wants to take. Trust me when he get his ass on XBL everyone is gonna gun him down.

hehehe....

Also he is not talking about the consoles HW, he is talking about in game with H3.

"Our biggest issue with the game, of course, is that it never lets us win online".

No one should be taking sides with this guy from KMC unless you know him.

You dont know if he has compatible ISP, Networking EQ, is he doing a ICS which is not supported by MS. Did he try and exchange the game? did he try his game on a different console, networking EQ and ISP that are compatible?

There are many factors that can cause the game to "Glitch" or lag, many people cannot tell the difference.

How old is this guy? if hes 20+ he should have a life and better things to do, even as a teen he should have better things to do.

This guy is right.

Shagittarius
Shagittarius @ Sep 10th 2009 2:01PM

"If they actually win this would be really bad for videogames.

Imagine companies having to be sure they don't have any bugs or they will be sued.

Bad new especially for smaller developers".

They wont let this idiot to win the case.

And besides.....FPS sucks on consoles, PC is the way to go.

man, its amazing how much people internalize video games...

Originally posted by inimalist
man, its amazing how much people internalize video games...

Go on... I'm not sure why it's surprising.

Now something like Twitter where someone is just posting what they did for the day and someone "follows" it, now that disturbs me...

Originally posted by chithappens
Go on... I'm not sure why it's surprising.

Now something like Twitter where someone is just posting what they did for the day and someone "follows" it, now that disturbs me...

lol, i didn't say it was as bad as twitter

its an interesting situation though. I guess I'm not surprised that people are rabidly defending games, just how much it seems "gaming" means to the core of some people. Like its an identity issue, as if there is a "gamer".

I guess calling someone an idiot for a lawsuit sort of goes with the territory, and I'm doing a poor job explaining myself, just seems that the reaction isn't quite in proportion.

Like, being called out for my "gamer credentials" for saying that glitches are a negative part of the industry... It seems really knee jerk, you know, like they are just looking for a reason to be dismissive rather than considering another point of view. That the argument has been about everything BUT the game industry and quality issues seems telling of this too.

Originally posted by inimalist

I guess calling someone an idiot for a lawsuit sort of goes with the territory, and I'm doing a poor job explaining myself, just seems that the reaction isn't quite in proportion.

You've explained yourself clearly, the video-game industry should be held up the the standards of others, as you mentioned, if people buy a car and it's a lemon (has glitches), people demand to be compensated and the car industry is held up to fix those errors, or lawsuits ensue.

It's as you said, it's people who play video-games to the point where they see it as a defining element (ie calling themselves gamers), knee-jerking because they feel this will somehow ruin their little bubble. It's all very odd, this "gamer" thing.