Star Wars vs Star Trek, Lord of the Rings and Battlestar Galactica

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, no. It's your turn to answer my question, I've answered yours over and over again.

[b]So, make your case for Star Wars tech being able to counter Borg adaptiveness and assimilation. Go; I'll listen. [/B]

In order to answer your question, you'll have to answer mine since my answer would depend on yours. Please give an example of how the Federation resisted the Borg.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Let's say that Star Trek wants to attack Coruscant, which is held by, say the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances (the civilization that held Coruscant changed many times). Explain how an invasion fleet would get past these:

1. Getting to Coruscant without being detected by Star Wars sensors and intercepted.
2. Getting past the defending fleet and reinforcements, which would be sent very quickly due to hyperdrive technology.
3. Getting past the space mines.
4. Getting past the planetary shield.
5. Getting past the turbolaser platforms and other defenses.
6. Landing ground troops while under fire from ground defense weapons.
7. Capturing and securing major cities defended by Star Wars ground forces, which would outnumber and outgun a Star Trek invasion force.
8. Stamping out resistance.
9. Keeping trillions of civilians in line.
10. Fighting the Jedi.
11. Dealing with a counter attack.

Also, on the flipside, if Star Wars wanted to attack Earth, they would not have to deal with any of these to the same order of magnitude as Star Trek would.

Earth would not have a planetary shield
Earth would not receive reinforcements in time
Earth would not have a comparable ground force
Earth would not have as many civilians to secure
etc.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
In order to answer your question, you'll have to answer mine since my answer would depend on yours. Please give an example of how the Federation resisted the Borg.

LoL, so no answer. DDM was 100% right about you. When you can argue effectively for your precious Star Wars, you troll and try to turn a debate into an insult fest by ignoring counters, only to bring up your failed points again several pages later in hopes on infuriating the oher posters.

Repeat: and please do answer this honestly, you have close to ZERO Star Trek knowledge, yet think you're able to make an intellectually honest debate here, how do you come to this conclusion?

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, so no answer. DDM was 100% right about you. When you can argue effectively for your precious Star Wars, you troll and try to turn a debate into an insult fest by ignoring counters, only to bring up your failed points again several pages later in hopes on infuriating the oher posters.

Repeat: [b]and please do answer this honestly, you have close to ZERO Star Trek knowledge, yet think you're able to make an intellectually honest debate here, how do you come to this conclusion? [/B]

I don't think you understand.

I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHEN YOU ANSWER MINE! My answer would DEPEND on your answer.

An analogy:

Bob: You want to volunteer?
Joe: For what?
Bob: Please answer the question.
Joe: But for what?
Bob: PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Joe: Yet my answer would depend on your answer to my question.
Bob: Grrr...Bill was right about you!

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
If Star Wars is attacking:

Star Wars hyperdrive would be advanced enough to attack a planet before Star Trek can respond. Star Trek warp drive would not be advanced enough to send any significant number of reinforcements. Star Wars ships have superior range and firepower to Star Trek ships. Star Trek planets would have no defense against orbital bombardment, and any ground forces would fall quickly to a ground invasion.

Jaden already covered most of these long ago, more proof of what you're really all about bringing them up YET again. He even posted a picture depicting the OS Enterprise having a vast range advantage over a Stardestroyer; it being able to fire while in warp etc.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I don't think you understand.

I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHEN YOU ANSWER MINE! My answer would DEPEND on your answer.

An analogy:

Bob: You want to volunteer?
Joe: For what?
Bob: Please answer the question.
Joe: But for what?
Bob: PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Joe: Yet my answer would depend on your answer to my question.
Bob: Grrr...Bill was right about you!

No, not palying your game anymore, as I'll answer and you'll continue to dodge, as you do when you can't counter. That or just wait several pages and repost a point that someone already countered.

So, can you at least answer this one below, please?

Repeat: and please do answer this honestly, you have close to ZERO Star Trek knowledge, yet think you're able to make an intellectually honest debate here, how do you come to this conclusion?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Let's say that Star Trek wants to attack Coruscant, which is held by, say the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances (the civilization that held Coruscant changed many times). Explain how an invasion fleet would get past these:

1. Getting to Coruscant without being detected by Star Wars sensors and intercepted.
2. Getting past the defending fleet and reinforcements, which would be sent very quickly due to hyperdrive technology.
3. Getting past the space mines.
4. Getting past the planetary shield.
5. Getting past the turbolaser platforms and other defenses.
6. Landing ground troops while under fire from ground defense weapons.
7. Capturing and securing major cities defended by Star Wars ground forces, which would outnumber and outgun a Star Trek invasion force.
8. Stamping out resistance.
9. Keeping trillions of civilians in line.
10. Fighting the Jedi.
11. Dealing with a counter attack.

Originally posted by Robtard
Jaden already covered most of these long ago, more proof of what you're really all about bringing them up YET again. He even posted a picture depicting the OS Enterprise having a vast range advantage over a Stardestroyer; it being able to fire while in warp etc.

ZOMG he posted a picture so it must be right!!!! Nah, his picture was not backed up by proof.

Originally posted by Robtard
copy/pasted

Repeat: [b]and please do answer this honestly, you have close to ZERO Star Trek knowledge, yet think you're able to make an intellectually honest debate here, how do you come to this conclusion? [/B]

Why don't you actually counter my points instead of using ad hominems?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
ZOMG he posted a picture so it must be right!!!! Nah, his picture was not backed up by proof.

That's a lie.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Why don't you actually counter my points instead of using ad hominems?

It's an honest question; it can pertain to any debate like this, not just here.

So, you have close to ZERO Star Trek knowledge, yet think you're able to make an intellectually honest debate here, how do you come to this conclusion?

Originally posted by Robtard
That's a lie.

I've seen videos where the Enterprise would fire a a Borg Cube within the distance of 10 kilometers.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's an honest question; it can pertain to any debate like this, not just here.

So, you have close to ZERO Star Trek knowledge, yet think you're able to make an intellectually honest debate here, how do you come to this conclusion?

I do research and use logic.

Please refute my points.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Let's say that Star Trek wants to attack Coruscant, which is held by, say the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances (the civilization that held Coruscant changed many times). Explain how an invasion fleet would get past these:

1. Getting to Coruscant without being detected by Star Wars sensors and intercepted.
2. Getting past the defending fleet and reinforcements, which would be sent very quickly due to hyperdrive technology.
3. Getting past the space mines.
4. Getting past the planetary shield.
5. Getting past the turbolaser platforms and other defenses.
6. Landing ground troops while under fire from ground defense weapons.
7. Capturing and securing major cities defended by Star Wars ground forces, which would outnumber and outgun a Star Trek invasion force.
8. Stamping out resistance.
9. Keeping trillions of civilians in line.
10. Fighting the Jedi.
11. Dealing with a counter attack.

You have very little knowledge of Star Trek, this is just a fact, as you've shown to not know the basics.

So, how can you make an intellectually honest conclusion concerning two things when you're ignorant of one of the two?

Why don't you actually refute my arguments instead of dodging them?

My honest conclusion has not been successfully refuted by you.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall

Let's say that Star Trek wants to attack Coruscant, which is held by, say the Galactic Federation of Free Alliances (the civilization that held Coruscant changed many times). Explain how an invasion fleet would get past these:

1. Getting to Coruscant without being detected by Star Wars sensors and intercepted.
2. Getting past the defending fleet and reinforcements, which would be sent very quickly due to hyperdrive technology.
3. Getting past the space mines.
4. Getting past the planetary shield.
5. Getting past the turbolaser platforms and other defenses.
6. Landing ground troops while under fire from ground defense weapons.
7. Capturing and securing major cities defended by Star Wars ground forces, which would outnumber and outgun a Star Trek invasion force.
8. Stamping out resistance.
9. Keeping trillions of civilians in line.
10. Fighting the Jedi.
11. Dealing with a counter attack.

For fun, I'll just use the Borg from ST and most if not all of this has been told to you already. Yet here you are rehashing the questions again and again and again.

1) Borg use "transwarp",ie they make wormholes and travel that way, they would literally just appear around Corusant.
2)Borg would adapt after a few hits/losses and those SW weapons would be rendered ineffective.
3)Same as #2
4)Same as #2, they'd adapt and assimilate the shield. Or they could just appear behind it, via the transwarp: See #1
5)Same as #2
6)Same as #2
7)Same as #2 plus assimilating the SW forces into their own.
8)Same as #7
9)Correction, they'd eventually be a "trillion" new Drones for the collective.
10) Jedi would be assimilated or outright killed and then truned into Drones, in time, by the overwhelming number of Borg
11) Same as #1-10

My questions, which you keep dodging:

How does SW counter the Borg adaptiveness and assimilation? Make your case or STFU already.

Then, how do they counter that and the rest of Star Trek tech? The Dominion, The Time-Ship etc.

Also, how can you make an intellectually honest conclusion concerning two things when you're ignorant of one of the two?

Originally posted by Robtard
For fun, I'll just use the Borg from ST and most if not all of this has been told to you already. Yet here you are rehashing the questions again and again and again.

1) Borg use "transwarp",ie they make wormholes and travel that way, they would literally just appear around Corusant.
2)Borg would adapt after a few hits/losses and those SW weapons would be rendered ineffective.
3)Same as #2
4)Same as #2, they'd adapt and assimilate the shield. Or they could just appear behind it, via the transwarp: See #1
5)Same as #2
6)Same as #2
7)Same as #2 plus assimilating the SW forces into their own.
8)Same as #7
9)Correction, they'd eventually be a "trillion" new Drones for the collective.
10) Jedi would be assimilated or outright killed and then truned into Drones, in time, by the overwhelming number of Borg
11) Same as #1-10

My questions, which you keep dodging:

How does SW counter the Borg adaptiveness and assimilation? Make your case or STFU already.

Then, how do they counter that and the rest of Star Trek tech? The Dominion, The Time-Ship etc.

Also, how can you make an intellectually honest conclusion concerning two things when you're ignorant of one of the two?

1. Transwarp is not instantaneous
2. Prove it
3. Prove it
4. lol wtf?
5. Prove it
6. Prove it
7. Prove it
8. Prove it
9. Prove it
10. lol no
11. lol no

Prove that the Borg can adapt to anything. How come they didn't adapt to the Federation?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
1. Transwarp is not instantaneous
2. Prove it
3. Prove it
4. lol wtf?
5. Prove it
6. Prove it
7. Prove it
8. Prove it
9. Prove it
10. lol no
11. lol no

Prove that the Borg can adapt to anything. How come they didn't adapt to the Federation?

1)It's not instant, so? The Borg travel through wormholes, SW would have no warning. But instant travel to anyhwere in the universe was shown capable in ST.

2-11)This is what the Borg do, adapt to a threat and build a counter. This is some of the most basic knowledge of Star Trek. WHich you lack.

REPEAT: The one instance was species 8472, they were from a different dimension. Other than that, the Borg have adapted to and conquered thousands and thousands worlds different worlds/technologies.

The fact that you refuse to answer my questions, while demand that I

Originally posted by Robtard
1)It's not instant, so? The Borg travel through wormholes, SW would have no warning. But instant travel to anyhwere in the universe was shown capable in ST.

2-11)This is what the Borg do, adapt to a threat and build a counter. This is some of the most basic knowledge of Star Trek. WHich you lack.

REPEAT: The one instance was species 8472, they were from a different dimension. Other than that, the Borg have adapted to and conquered thousands and thousands worlds different worlds/technologies.

The fact that you refuse to answer my questions, while demand that I

What if Star Wars destroys the Borg transwarp hubs?

Yet they were unable to counter the Federation.

No offense, but some of your arguments are very fanboyish. "zomg the Borg counter and assimulate everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" wtf? The Federation was able to hold off the Borg.

A borg drone's connection to the collective could be cut off by a Force field. Therefore, any borg drone's that attempt to attack Coruscant by ground would be cut off by the planetary shield. BTW, to suggest that the Borg could somehow assimulate it is speculation and unproven.