1) You know nothing of Star Trek, they won a few fights; for specific reasons, the Federation didn't obliterate the Borg. As far as this thread is concerned, Borg would be at full might.
2)You're a troll. You accuse others of dodging, while you're the dodger. You accuse others of "fanboysim" while your stance on SW here combined with having very limited knowledge of Star Trek is classic "fanboyism."
3) This is where you wanted to take the debate too, as you have no counter. Congrats, I guess.
Stop using ad hominems. You're not actually responding to my points.
Prove that the Borg can adapt to Star Wars technology when they were unable to completely adapt to Federation technology.
Prove that the Borg can assimilate a planetary shield.
What happens if Star Wars destroys the Borg transwarp hubs?
Star Wars destroys the Borg transwarp hubs. Then, the Star Wars civilizations build up a huge number of star destroyers using their IMMENSE industrial capabilities. The borg cubes would be stuck having to use regular warp. Then, several Star Wars fleets of star destroyers pop up next to every borg fleet and simutaneously destroy the borg fleets before they can try to adapt.
Does it sound outlandish? Federation ships using phasers with 3-4 gigawatts of energy were able to damage borg cubes when aiming at their weak spots. A fleet of star destroyers would absolutely annihalate a borg cube.
Or, the Star Wars civilizations mass produce sun crushers using the star forge and proceed to wipe the Borg out of existence.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Stop using ad hominems. You're not actually responding to my points.Prove that the Borg can adapt to Star Wars technology when they were unable to completely adapt to Federation technology.
Prove that the Borg can assimilate a planetary shield.
What happens if Star Wars destroys the Borg transwarp hubs?
Star Wars destroys the Borg transwarp hubs. Then, the Star Wars civilizations build up a huge number of star destroyers using their IMMENSE industrial capabilities. The borg cubes would be stuck having to use regular warp. Then, several Star Wars fleets of star destroyers pop up next to every borg fleet and simutaneously destroy the borg fleets before they can try to adapt.
Does it sound outlandish? Federation ships using phasers with 3-4 gigawatts of energy were able to damage borg cubes when aiming at their weak spots. A fleet of star destroyers would absolutely annihalate a borg cube.
Stop trolling, your points have been responded to and counters, over and over. You're the dodger.
Because adapting to technology is what the Borg do. They were able to adapt to Federation technology. Again, this is basic knowledge you're ignorant of.
Planetary Shield is technological, see point above.
So everyone in Star Wars is just going to know the location of all of these hubs and destroy all of them (millions, as the Borg need to move their vast fleet) all at once without the Borg (or other ST force here) doing a thing? LoLoLoL, fail.
Um, no. The weak-spot was exploited because 7 of 9 had inside information, and this was when Voyager was modulating their phasers frequencies and the Borg had yet to adapt, though it was coming. SW doesn't have this info or the capabilities.
You'll likely just dodge again, but: So, how will SW counter the Borg's adaptiveness and assimilation, once a couple Cubes are destroyed and the Borg adapt?
Originally posted by Robtard
Stop trolling
How am I trolling?
Because adapting to technology is what the Borg do. They were able to adapt to Federation technology. Again, this is basic knowledge you're ignorant of.
Except that they obviously didn't adapt to the Federation completely, hence why the Federation fended off the Borg.
Planetary Shield is technological, see point above.
Prove that the Borg can adapt to a defensive technology.
So everyone in Star Wars is just going to know the location of all of these hubs and destroy all of them (millions, as the Borg need to move their vast fleet) all at once without the Borg (or other ST force here) doing a thing? LoLoLoL, fail.
ONE hub was destroyed by the Federation and it crippled the Borg.
Um, no. The weak-spot was exploited because 7 of 9 had inside information, and this was when Voyager was modulating their phasers frequencies and the Borg had yet to adapt, though it was coming.
Yet according to you the Borg would have adapted within minutes.
Star Wars technology is FAR greater than that of any species in which the Borg were able to adapt to.
Ok, let's say that a star destroyer blows up a borg cube. Explain to me HOW the borg would adapt to that. A turbolaser is far more powerful than any non superweapon the borg have encountered and adapted to. Explain how they could somehow magically enhance their shields and armor to adapt to a weapon millions of times more powerful than those phasers that the Federation uses.
You seem to think that the borg have magical adaption abilities, but that's not true. The borg do not have the technological ability to adapt to Star Wars technology because Star Wars technology is far more advanced than any technology the borg have adapted to.
How about this:
Luke Skywalker as of LOTF captures a borg drone and uses the Force to disable that self destruct feature borg drones have. He then reads the mind of the borg drone, and figures out the locations of all the transwarp hubs. Then, several fleets of star destroyers destroy the transwarp hubs, forcing the borg to use standard warp. Meanwhile, Star Wars proceeds to pwn the Federation, Romulans, Kilgons and other non super species of ST. Then Star Wars mass produces sun crushers with the star forge and proceeds to wipe the borg from existense.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
How am I trolling?Except that they obviously didn't adapt to the Federation completely, hence why the Federation fended off the Borg.
Prove that the Borg can adapt to a defensive technology.
ONE hub was destroyed by the Federation and it crippled the Borg.
Yet surely the Borg would adapt within minutes as you claim.
Star Wars technology is FAR greater than that of any species in which the Borg were able to adapt to.
Your points have been responded to and counters, over and over. You're the dodger, yet here to accuse me of the dishonesty you're implementing. That's trolling.
Again, you don't have the most basic knowledge of ST.
The Borg have countered and adapted to and counter many, many shielding technologies, Again. If you knew anything of ST, you'd know.
Was it in Voyager? Thought so.
The Borg do adapt within minutes, this has been a staple in ST. Kill/destroy one or two; then they adapt to that specific threat.
You can keep claiming that until you're blue in the face, but it simply isn't true. Jaden has done a perfect job of crushing that; it's the other way around. So, no, saying "Star Wars is just too strong, BAM!", is not a valid answer.
Also have to remember, the Borg are only one ST faction here, though that's enough.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Yet according to you the Borg would have adapted within minutes.Star Wars technology is FAR greater than that of any species in which the Borg were able to adapt to.
Ok, let's say that a star destroyer blows up a borg cube. Explain to me HOW the borg would adapt to that. A turbolaser is far more powerful than any non superweapon the borg have encountered and adapted to. Explain how they could somehow magically enhance their shields and armor to adapt to a weapon millions of times more powerful than those phasers that the Federation uses.
You seem to think that the borg have magical adaption abilities, but that's not true. The borg do not have the technological ability to adapt to Star Wars technology because Star Wars technology is far more advanced than any technology the borg have adapted to.
How about this:
Luke Skywalker as of LOTF captures a borg drone and uses the Force to disable that self destruct feature borg drones have. He then reads the mind of the borg drone, and figures out the locations of all the transwarp hubs. Then, several fleets of star destroyers destroy the transwarp hubs, forcing the borg to use standard warp. Meanwhile, Star Wars proceeds to pwn the Federation, Romulans, Kilgons and other non super species of ST. Then Star Wars mass produces sun crushers with the star forge and proceeds to wipe the borg from existense.
^
Your premise that "SW tech is more powerful" is an outright lie, jaden's shown this a few times now, so the rest of your post can be ignored, as it's based on lies.
Though it was countered point for point before, you just wait until a few pages go by to bring up your lies/failed points again, I suspect to anger the opposition in starting an insult match. You did this in the MVF recently.
Originally posted by Robtard
^Your premise that "SW tech is more powerful" is an outright lie, jaden's shown this a few times now, so the rest of your post can be ignored, as it's based on lies. Though it was countered point for point before.
Ah, see? You're avoiding my point and jumping to conclusion based on faulty premises Mr. Hypocrite.
Star Wars turbolasers generate hundreds of millions of gigawatts
Star Trek phasers generate 3 to 4 gigawatts
Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi Luke captures a borg drone and disables the drone's self destruct device. Then, he mind reads the drone to figure out where the transwarp hubs are.
Several fleets of star destroyers destroy the transwarp hubs.
The borg are stuck using regular warp while Star Wars pwns the less powerful Star Trek civilizations.
Star Wars mass produces sun crushers with the star forge and annihilates the borg.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Ah, see? You're avoiding my point and jumping to conclusion based on faulty premises Mr. Hypocrite.Star Wars turbolasers generate hundreds of millions of gigawatts
Star Trek phasers generate 3 to 4 gigawatts
You've been shown to be wrong, perpetuating this makes you a liar.
Originally posted by Robtard
You've been shown to be wrong, perpetuating this makes you a liar.
Stop dodging my points. These figures are from canon sources.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi Luke captures a borg drone and disables the drone's self destruct device. Then, he mind reads the drone to figure out where the transwarp hubs are.Several fleets of star destroyers destroy the transwarp hubs.
The borg are stuck using regular warp while Star Wars pwns the less powerful Star Trek civilizations.
Star Wars mass produces sun crushers with the star forge and annihilates the borg.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi Luke captures a borg drone and disables the drone's self destruct device. Then, he mind reads the drone to figure out where the transwarp hubs are.Several fleets of star destroyers destroy the transwarp hubs.
The borg are stuck using regular warp while Star Wars pwns the less powerful Star Trek civilizations.
Star Wars mass produces sun crushers with the star forge and annihilates the borg.
LoL, fail and serious rampant fanboyism. Seriously, WTF?
1) Why assume Luke would capture a drone? You're scripting now, good job.
2) How would he know the Drones have self-destruct?
Here, I can do it too, script:
Luke gets transported and assimilated. Borg now have Luke Drone.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, fail and serious rampant fanboyism. Seriously, WTF?1) Why assume Luke would capture a drone? You're scripting now, good job.
2) How would he know the Drones have self-destruct?
Here, I can do it too, script:
Luke gets transported and assimilated. Borg now have Luke Drone.
1. A borg drone isn't really all that powerful compared to LOTF Luke.
2. Because maybe he tries the first time and the drone self destructs, so he's like "ok, the drone has self destruct"
LOL dude, explain to me how borg drones even detect Luke, who by DE could fight faster than the eye could see.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
1. A borg drone isn't really all that powerful compared to LOTF Luke.2. Because maybe he tries the first time and the drone self destructs, so he's like "ok, the drone has self destruct"
LOL dude, explain to me how borg drones even detect Luke, who by DE could fight faster than the eye could see.
Hahahha, your scripting is rampant fanboyism as is hilarious. Guess it's all you have left. Do continue.
First of all, it wouldn't have to be Drones, oh mighty scripter. Borg (most of ST for that matter) sensors don't rely on physically seeing people to detect them. Again, basic ST knowledge you lack.
Second, as you did, I can do whatever I like in my scripting, hypocrite.
Originally posted by Robtard
Hahahha, your scripting is rampant fanboyism as is hilarious. Guess it's all you have left. Do continue.First of all, it wouldn't have to be Drones, oh mighty scripter. Borg (most of ST for that matter) sensors don't rely on physically seeing people to detect them. Again, basic ST knowledge you lack.
Strawman. Stop dodging the point.
Luke captures a drone.
Luke disables the self destruct feature on the drone.
Luke mind reads the drone and figures out the location of the transwarp hubs.
Then the Star Wars fleets can destroy the hubs.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Strawman. Stop dodging the point.Luke captures a drone.
Luke disables the self destruct feature on the drone.
Luke mind reads the drone and figures out the location of the transwarp hubs.Then the Star Wars fleets can destroy the hubs.
Straw-man? WTF. You don't know what a Straw-man argument is. You tried this with DDM when he was spanking you, he called you on it too. Do stop it here, it's sad.
Again, you're scripting; I can do it too. Watch:
-Luke doesn't capture a Drone, instead Luke is transported and laced with Borg nanites before materialization. /the end
This is great fun.
Originally posted by Robtard
Straw-man? WTF. You don't know what a Straw-man argument is. You tried this with DDM when he was spanking you, he called you on it too. Do stop it here, it's sad.Again, you're scripting; I can do it too. Watch:
-Luke [b]doesn't
capture a Drone, instead Luke is transported and laced with Borg nanites before materialization. /the endThis is great fun. [/B]
Luke captures a drone. He is powerful enough to do this.
Luke disables the self destruct feature on the drone. He has done this before.
Luke mind reads the drone and figures out the location of the transwarp hubs. Luke has read minds before.
You claim that I'm "scripting", and yet my idea is backed up with evidence.
Problems with yours:
Why doesn't Luke capture a drone?
How is Luke transported and laced with Borg nanites?
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Luke captures a drone. He is powerful enough to do this.
Luke disables the self destruct feature on the drone. He has done this before.
Luke mind reads the drone and figures out the location of the transwarp hubs. Luke has read minds before.You claim that I'm "scripting", and yet my idea is backed up with evidence.
Yours:
Why doesn't Luke capture a drone?
How is Luke transported and laced with Borg nanites?
You are scripting, this a fact.
Answer:Because he gets transported and assimilated.
Answer:Borg transporters and Borg nanites.
Mine is actually backed up with evidence. The Borg do transport people and turn them into Drones.
By here, since my script of Luke becoming a Drone is too much for you to handle, it's Luke after all; he's a hero. I'll edit my script to say:
Luke gets transported into space; Luke dies a hero. /the end