Originally posted by Zeuodin
I wouldn't say Easily.
You dont have too but from Thanos showings, superman should not be a threat to him just like silver surfer and thor isnt a threat to him. Thanos is just on another level.
Superman powers isnt going to work; this is a guy that took silver surfer best shot to the face and smiled right after and powerwise silver surfer>>>>Supes.
Superman only offense is super strength and thanos shields would prevent that from even touching him.
He fought champion who possessed the power gems and champion planet destroying strength couldnt even get past thanos shields so what makes anyone think that supermans strength would.
Originally posted by carver9nah. Silver surfer isn't nearly as effective a fighter as Superman is. And he's certainly more versatile. More powerful? Debatable.
You dont have too but from Thanos showings, superman should not be a threat to him just like silver surfer and thor isnt a threat to him. Thanos is just on another level.Superman powers isnt going to work; this is a guy that took silver surfer best shot to the face and smiled right after and powerwise silver surfer>>>>Supes.
Superman only offense is super strength and thanos shields would prevent that from even touching him.
He fought champion who possessed the power gems and champion planet destroying strength couldnt even get past thanos shields so what makes anyone think that supermans strength would.
Originally posted by Zeuodin
nah. Silver surfer isn't nearly as effective a fighter as Superman is. And he's certainly more versatile. More powerful? Debatable.
So you dont think Silver surfer is more powerful?
A guy that brought back life on an entire planet. A guy that absorbed an entire sun. A guy that powered up and destroyed a planet.
Silver surfer powers is on a entirely different level. Heat vision and ice breath dont put Supes anywhere close to what surfer is.
Originally posted by -Pr-
you named them already. and i thought we were comparing him to surfer?
So you believe that Supes is just as powerful as Surfer? Super strength is the only thing I give supes the edge over surfer, everything else, surfer has him beat.
Ice breath and heat vision; surfer has that also along with 100's of other powers.
The only high herald that is as powerful as Surfer is Thor.
Originally posted by carver9
So you believe that Supes is just as powerful as Surfer? Super strength is the only thing I give supes the edge over surfer, everything else, surfer has him beat.Ice breath and heat vision; surfer has that also along with 100's of other powers.
The only high herald that is as powerful as Surfer is Thor.
versatility =/= superiority.
I really don't see how Silver Surfer being more powerful and versatile than Superman is even a question. The problem is, that Superman even with the power set he has, he is much more effective and formidable in comparison with Norrin and his power set. If Silver Surfer used his powerset with the same formidability as Clark did, he'd be wrecking shit. Dude casually opens up large black holes, threatens to punch your soul, evolves planets billions of years among other shit.
Formidability =/= Superiority
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympustrue.
I really don't see how Silver Surfer being more powerful and versatile than Superman is even a question. The problem is, that Superman even with the power set he has, he is much more effective and formidable in comparison with Norrin and his power set. If Silver Surfer used his powerset with the same formidability as Clark did, he'd be wrecking shit. Dude casually opens up large black holes, threatens to punch your soul, evolves planets billions of years among other shit.Formidability =/= Superiority
although I've seen superman do some completely ridiculous feats with his own powerset (ie fixing reality with his heatvision or clapping up electrical field to fix a hole in reality, etc)
Originally posted by Starscream M
true.although I've seen superman do some completely ridiculous feats with his own powerset (ie fixing reality with his heatvision or clapping up electrical field to fix a hole in reality, etc)
That was while they were in New Genisis. He was transformed into beyond planetary size first of all, had help and direction from Orion who used his energy attack first etc. Hardly prove, that if there was a sudden rip in reality on say Earth he can heat vision it himself.
You mean when he rubbed his hand's together? He created some sort of electromagnetic super static or whatever bullshit explanation to create some sort of temporary barrier. Props to Clark for that.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I really don't see how Silver Surfer being more powerful and versatile than Superman is even a question. The problem is, that Superman even with the power set he has, he is much more effective and formidable in comparison with Norrin and his power set. If Silver Surfer used his powerset with the same formidability as Clark did, he'd be wrecking shit. Dude casually opens up large black holes, threatens to punch your soul, evolves planets billions of years among other shit.Formidability =/= Superiority
but is that not how we rate people, though? their effectiveness in combat rather than their potential?
any gl worth their salt should completely stomp superman, and yet he's still the main man. it's, imo, because his powers are so simple that makes him so effective. plus, he's shown a remarkable ability to, as was said, use that limited powerset to be incredibly effective.
Originally posted by -Pr-
but is that not how we rate people, though? their effectiveness in combat rather than their potential?any gl worth their salt should completely stomp superman, and yet he's still the main man. it's, imo, because his powers are so simple that makes him so effective. plus, he's shown a remarkable ability to, as was said, use that limited powerset to be incredibly effective.
But you guys were talking about power, not effectiveness. And even then I choose to highlight the difference between formidability and superiority in terms of power.
Like I said in terms of formidability and effectiveness with one's power set, Superman blows Norrin out of the water. On the other hand if we simple look at their power sets and whose more powerful I'd say it's the other way around. Norrin might not exactly use his power set as effectively as Clark, but his simple power makes up for it putting him up there with the elite. Same goes for Thor to an extent.
Not to say that Clark in his own right still isn't ridiculously powerful. I simply believe it's quite clear that Silver Surfer is superior in terms of power but it's not some ridiculous gap.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
But you guys were talking about power, not effectiveness. And even then I choose to highlight the difference between formidability and superiority in terms of power.Like I said in terms of formidability and effectiveness with one's power set, Superman blows Norrin out of the water. On the other hand if we simple look at their power sets and whose more powerful I'd say it's the other way around. Norrin might not exactly use his power set as effectively as Clark, but his simple power makes up for it putting him up there with the elite. Same goes for Thor to an extent.
Not to say that Clark in his own right still isn't ridiculously powerful. I simply believe it's quite clear that Silver Surfer is superior in terms of power but it's not some ridiculous gap.
i think it depends on how you classify power, tbh.
is norrin more powerful? sure, but by a whole lot? not to me.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i think it depends on how you classify power, tbh.is norrin more powerful? sure, but by a whole lot? not to me.
Probably true.
That depends on your definition by a whole lot.
We also have to start differentiating between power and versatility which makes it more difficult because Norrin is so powerful and versatile.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So no his never actually done so right?What's your basis on that? Because his owned Silver Surfer easily? Guess what, so has Thor, and Thor's more powerful than either of the heroes you've listed.
Anyways I have to go to bed. Later.
Surfer is more versatile and faster. Thor has more power and powerful energy blasts such as the god blast. Though Surfer unleashed the crunch energies on T&A after he got upgraded by Galactus personally, he also defeated Raveneous who was giving him a good fight before hes upgrade(during annihlation)