Superman's Hardest Punch vs Thor's Hardest Mjolnir Slam

Originally posted by Silent Master
Like I said, given BRB's strength and durability level prior to lifting Mjolnir, If the powers stacked, BRB would have ended up twice as strong and durable.

However seeing as he didn't, you just proved that the powers don't stack. Thank you.

No, his Asgardian energies were amped by it just as they were by his own Hammer...since the Mjolnir and his Hammer were nearly equal, it simply restored his powers. If he had been using both hammer, than he would have been "amped".

😂 Think for a second, if he had his hammer and Thor's hammer, the Asagardian energies would have doubled, with one or the other they are restored.

Originally posted by Diesldude
So are you saying that BRB without Mjolnir is as strong and as durable as Thor with Mjolnir?

I don't think he meant what he was saying, because that's trolling...were you trolling SM?

Originally posted by Dolos
No, his Asgardian energies were amped by it just as they were by his own Hammer...since the Mjolnir and his Hammer were nearly equal, it simply restored his powers. If he had been using both hammer, than he would have been "amped".

😂 Think for a second, if he had his hammer and Thor's hammer, the Asagardian energies would have doubled, with one or the other they are restored.

You're aware that BRB didn't have Stormbreaker at the time he fought Thor for control of Mjolnir, right?

What is funny that when BRB lifted mjolnir, he actually gained Thor's power upon his own stacked and thor was reverted to Don blake form Stormbreaker=/=Mjolnir, it only grants him mjolnir's powers not thor's strength. Snake-eyes suck as always even in trolling.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What is funny that when BRB lifted mjolnir, he actually gained Thor's power upon his own stacked and thor was reverted to Don blake form Stormbreaker=/=Mjolnir, it only grants him mjolnir's powers not thor's strength. Snake-eyes suck as always even in trolling.

The powers didn't stack, you really need to do more research before posting.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that BRB didn't have Stormbreaker at the time he fought Thor for control of Mjolnir, right?

Which is why, when Beta Ray as oppossed to Thor, he didn't revert to any human form because he didn't have one, and still retained his natural Asgardian strength and durability, which is not amped...the hammers merely allow them to channel Asagardian energies. Didn't you know that?

When has Thor or BRB wielded their lightning attacks and generated storms without their hammers?? 😂 Thor no longer has a human form attached to him.

Lol

"Whoever holds this hammer if he be worthy shall posses the power of Thor"

For those saying that Superman got the power of Thor, but he is not worthy to lift the hammer.

You should get back to the drawing table because it does not compute.

Not that i buy the idea you are trying to sell, because a stack power in a crossover should look something like this:

http://www.wordofthenerdonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/840891-wwandstorm_super.jpg

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lol

"Whoever holds this hammer if he be worthy shall posses the power of Thor"

For those saying that Superman got the power of Thor, but he is not worthy to lift the hammer.

You should get back to the drawing table because it does not compute.

Not that i buy the idea you are trying to sell, because a stack power in a crossover should look something like this:

http://www.wordofthenerdonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/840891-wwandstorm_super.jpg

Superman had Thor's permission. Try not to overanalyze it...this whole this whole side-debacle is irrelevant.

Thor's striking feats simply don't match Superman's. And now the argument is that if Thor can't match Superman's damage, his Hammer will at least break Superman's fist if they collide because it's metallic or mystical?? Which is a silly notion, we've seen Superman mangle Wonder Woman's Bracelets...❌

EDIT: I'm not disagreeing with you Rao, you're absolutely right, it didn't make any since. It was a show-case of plot induced stupidity, or more Dues Ex Machina...

Originally posted by Dolos
Superman had Thor's permission. Try not to overanalyze it...this whole this whole side-debacle is irrelevant.

Thor's striking feats simply don't match Superman's. And now the argument is that if Thor can't match Superman's damage, his Hammer will at least break Superman's fist if they collide because it's metallic or mystical?? Which is a silly notion, we've seen Superman mangle Wonder Woman's Bracelets...❌

EDIT: I'm not disagreeing with you Rao, you're absolutely right, it didn't make any since. It was a show-case of plot induced stupidity, or more Dues Ex Machina...

I agree, I dont think Thor hits as hard as Sm. At least I have not seen anything that points that way. I mean yes Thor/ mjolnir hits hard, but based on evidence Superman hits harder.

I was just refferingto Silent Master's argument that contradicts it self.

He says that Superman got the power of Thor to hit chrona's wall on the crossover yet he also claims that Superman is not worthy to lift Mjolnir.
and according to what the scripture on the hammer says is that in order for superman to wield the power of thor, he has to be worthy.

So if silent master likes to keep this idea, he will have to admit that superman is worthyof lifting mjolnir or that superman hits harder. Any will do 😉

Originally posted by Dolos
Superman had Thor's permission.

True, but Thor can't override the hammer's enchantment either. It won't allow itself to be lifted by just anyone, even if that's what Thor wants.

Thor himself, has been unworthy to lift it.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I agree, I dont think Thor hits as hard as Sm. At least I have not seen anything that points that way. I mean yes Thor/ mjolnir hits hard, but based on evidence Superman hits harder.

I was just refferingto Silent Master's argument that contradicts it self.

He says that Superman got the power of Thor to hit chrona's wall on the crossover yet he also claims that Superman is not worthy to lift Mjolnir.
and according to what the scripture on the hammer says is that in order for superman to wield the power of thor, he has to be worthy.

So if silent master likes to keep this idea, he will have to admit that superman is worthyof lifting mjolnir or that superman hits harder. Any will do 😉

Or, I could just point to the crossover where it's stated that Superman was allowed to overcome the enchantment because of the circumstances and that once those circumstances were over, he was shown as unable to lift Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I agree, I dont think Thor hits as hard as Sm. At least I have not seen anything that points that way. I mean yes Thor/ mjolnir hits hard, but based on evidence Superman hits harder.

I was just refferingto Silent Master's argument that contradicts it self.

He says that Superman got the power of Thor to hit chrona's wall on the crossover yet he also claims that Superman is not worthy to lift Mjolnir.
and according to what the scripture on the hammer says is that in order for superman to wield the power of thor, he has to be worthy.

So if silent master likes to keep this idea, he will have to admit that superman is worthyof lifting mjolnir or that superman hits harder. Any will do 😉

👆

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or, I could just point to the crossover where it's stated that Superman was allowed to overcome the enchantment because of the circumstances and that once those circumstances were over, he was shown as unable to lift Mjolnir.

-facepalm-

Just drop it. The circumstances were PIS, it was a crossover, which cannot be used in debates...which makes this whole argument unwinnible by either party AND irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Abhil has provided striking feats that have not been matched by your party....that said, please, get back to the topic and post some scans. 👆

Originally posted by Dolos
Try not to overanalyze it...this whole this whole side-debacle is irrelevant.

I think we're putting in even more thought then Busiek did. He probably just thought it would be really cool for Superman to use the hammer, and also not be able to override the enchantment, and shoehorned both into the same story, which has never been done before in comics.

To be honest I think it was Mjolnir in Superman's hand what achieved it.

Which in any case is ok with me, because I don't think any of them alone could have done it...

Well maybe SUperman 😛

Originally posted by abhilegend
LOLWUT? Darkseid totally ignored Source/ALE's best shot and owned him like a ***** and its not "impressive" because you think he was just "resisting". Man, you suck more than carver and h1a8 on this. Go make some excuses for thor on this too.

Present some feats for thor here. Don't "ermm" here, I've lost all respect for you at this point.

Not really impressive how you think Darkseid simply ignored what you say was the Source's best shot. It's not like he stood there and just straight up tanked an attack from the Source entity. They clashed and unleashed energies.
Also how do you figure the Source was at it's best, when on panel Darkseid was already siphoning off from the Source's well of power? In fact he pretty much temporarily cut off the Source Entity from it's cache of souls (source of power).
Funny thing is how can you say Darkseid owned the Source when in the end the Source set Darkseid up? Superman even remarked at how the Source freed itself from DS's trap. He simply replied by saying "I am the Source".
Getting back on topic... Not gonna lie. It was a nice striking feat for Supes. Starlin did make it extra clear that DS was caught unaware and how insignificant Supes really was to him. In fact later on, the Source empowered Orion affected DS more with his blow since DS himself claimed that Orion's attack rocked him to his very being and that he strikes with the power of the Celestial. The Supes attack was visually more impressive, but like I said, was not that impressive.
To tell yo the truth I'm even more impressed with the indirect damage on a moon by Supe's blow on the Black Racer.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Eh?

Not really impressive how you think Darkseid simply ignored what you say was the Source's best shot. It's not like he stood there and just straight up tanked an attack from the Source entity. They clashed and unleashed energies.
Also how do you figure the Source was at it's best, when on panel Darkseid was already siphoning off from the Source's well of power? In fact he pretty much temporarily cut off the Source Entity from it's cache of souls (source of power).
Funny thing is how can you say Darkseid owned the Source when in the end the Source set Darkseid up? Superman even remarked at how the Source freed itself from DS's trap. He simply replied by saying "I am the Source".
Getting back on topic... Not gonna lie. It was a nice striking feat for Supes. Starlin did make it extra clear that DS was caught unaware and how insignificant Supes really was to him. In fact later on, the Source empowered Orion affected DS more with his blow since DS himself claimed that Orion's attack rocked him to his very being and that he strikes with the power of the Celestial. The Supes attack was visually more impressive, but like I said, was not that impressive.
To tell yo the truth I'm even more impressed with the indirect damage on a moon by Supe's blow on the Black Racer.

Orion had half the soulfire formula at that point and that's why source freed himself, darkseid weakened.

Superman broke darkseid's body in half while he shrugged Source's attacks off. Only a marvel dick rider and apologist like you would think its not impressive. While Namor breaks Tiamut's armor.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The powers didn't stack, you really need to do more research before posting.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or, I could just point to the crossover where it's stated that Superman was allowed to overcome the enchantment because of the circumstances and that once those circumstances were over, he was shown as unable to lift Mjolnir.

That will mean that the circumstances caused the enchantment to be null for a brief time.

Translation superman is not worthy to lift mjolnir, but he hits harder.

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm
It wasn't source's well of power. It was the power of every new god combined and by which source was going to create 5th world. Like I said you suck at this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion had half the soulfire formula at that point and that's why source freed himself, darkseid weakened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman broke darkseid's body in half while he shrugged Source's attacks off. Only a marvel dick rider and apologist like you would think its not impressive. While Namor breaks Tiamut's armor.