Originally posted by Battlehammer
Sentry did not end it in one punch. He hit wolverine twice after stating he new he could no kill wolverine implying he was not holding back at all with the shots, wolevrine said he hits like galactus, and wolverine had shaw to his throat moments before the event.
Has he ever actually been hit by Galactus? Given his comic title promiscuity, I don't doubt that he might have, but that seems like a funny claim to make.
Originally posted by Digi
Has he ever actually been hit by Galactus? Given his comic title promiscuity, I don't doubt that he might have, but that seems like a funny claim to make.
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Logan wishes he was like Cyclops. Scott got the leadership, the looks, the style, and of course Jean.Logan=self pity.
Scot more about self pitty then wolverine is.
To make me think Wolverine can hang out with top tiers I want him to fight Superman in a cannon crossover, stabbing him and leaving him for death after stopping Flash's speed blitz and one shotting Wonder Woman without his claws. Then he has to KO Darkseid after he survives 8 the omega effect eight times in a row.
Then, I want it to be remembered and mentioned in the next ten years of comic book history and make it into a series of movies, until the character its known as "the hairy dwarf who decked Superman".
Then cancel all the books he is in and kill him permanently so we know it was not just to boost or boast his popularity. THEN, I'll concede Logan beats Supes handily and I'll make a respect threat about it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan was offered co leadership and turn it down. He does not want to be the leader and has lead many teams before including the original alpha flight. Style? I rather be a bad ass then a boy scot. Jean really loves Logan.Scot more about self pitty then wolverine is.
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Most popular street level and low meta level characters do well against higher tiers. It's just the way it is. Bat's, who is one of my favorites, has put down Grundy, Captain Marvel and made DS bleed. I wouldn't consider those feats "right" given power sets but it's happened.
Wolverine has had several bad moments the past 2+ years. Namor, WWH and Skaar more recently. Rulk tossed him miles away last month. But he makes Marvel a lot of money. Of course he'll have high showings.
I just think people need to be more reasonable in the vs forum. Wolverine probably gets more hate than any other character.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Style? I rather be a bad ass then a boy scot.
Originally posted by roughrider
Sentry, Wonder Man & Gladiator have all one-shotted Wolverine. Give it up.
what you just said was utterly incorrect.
Originally posted by roughrider
He's one of the most popular characters in comics, is deservedly included in the ranks of the best characters ever created, is a household name now thanks to the X-Men films...But it doesn't make him top tier.
never argued him being top tier.
Originally posted by Badabing
Most popular street level and low meta level characters do well against higher tiers. It's just the way it is. Bat's, who is one of my favorites, has put down Grundy, Captain Marvel and made DS bleed. I wouldn't consider those feats "right" given power sets but it's happened.Wolverine has had several bad moments the past 2+ years. Namor, WWH and Skaar more recently. Rulk tossed him miles away last month. But he makes Marvel a lot of money. Of course he'll have high showings.
I just think people need to be more reasonable in the vs forum. Wolverine probably gets more hate than any other character.
cosigned.
this is generalized comment not directed at any in particular
Wolverine character is designed to take it to extremely powerful mele oriented characters due to the combination of his skills, powers and weapons. He not taking it to superman or firelord, but he is able to fight characters like Hulk (though he never gunna win) and he able to beat stalemate brick like characters lacking either vast healing factor, durbaility that can withstand his claws, or range or speed he can not cope with.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Logan was offered co leadership and turn it down. He does not want to be the leader and has lead many teams before including the original alpha flight. Style? I rather be a bad ass then a boy scot. Jean really loves Logan.Scot more about self pitty then wolverine is.
Thus the reason why Wolvie would make an abominable leader of the X-Men. His "badass" image is more of self secluded, loner, one-man-army, rebel, and all that mumble jumble that would get in the way of the other team mates. The Boy Scout personality does wonders for leaders such as Captain America and Superman....
...Cyclops>Wolverine.
And I'm not even an Xmen fan.
*drops the mic*
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Thus the reason why Wolvie would make an abominable leader of the X-Men. His "badass" image is more of self secluded, loner, one-man-army, rebel, and all that mumble jumble that would get in the way of the other team mates. The Boy Scout personality does wonders for leaders such as Captain America and Superman....
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
...Cyclops>Wolverine.And I'm not even an Xmen fan.
*drops the mic*
So your more likely to be ignorant of characters, personalities and abilities then fans of them who consistently read there stories.
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Originally posted by BattlehammerPretty much. I hope people take notice that you said he wouldn't beat Supes, Hulk and FL too.
cosigned.this is generalized comment not directed at any in particular
Wolverine character is designed to take it to extremely powerful mele oriented characters due to the combination of his skills, powers and weapons. He not taking it to superman or firelord, but he is able to fight characters like Hulk (though he never gunna win) and he able to beat stalemate brick like characters lacking either vast healing factor, durbaility that can withstand his claws, or range or speed he can not cope with.
Heck, Ben Grimm even had a good showing a few months back against Logan. Not sure why people are all up in arms about him. He has an unbreakable skeleton, massive healing and razor sharp claws plus speed and skills. So he has good showings against some one dimensional bricks.
I think Bats and Cap get more of a pass in the vs forum. Not sure why though.
Originally posted by Badabing
Pretty much. I hope people take notice that you said he wouldn't beat Supes, Hulk and FL too.Heck, Ben Grimm even had a good showing a few months back against Logan. Not sure why people are all up in arms about him. He has an unbreakable skeleton, massive healing and razor sharp claws plus speed and skills. So he has good showings against some one dimensional bricks.
I think Bats and Cap get more of a pass in the vs forum. Not sure why though.
Realy when was this? Dam I am slacking on my comic reading. Yea I dont get it either why everyone hates him so.
Yea I know which is so ridiculous wolverine a true meta, has blades able to cut right through almost anything, has enhanced durability/unbreakable skeleton and crazy damage soak. Yet people are more willing to give Bats and Capt the win.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Actually he make a great leader, and currently and has lead countless teams. Team X, alpha flight, uncanny x-men, currently leader of black dragon, currently leader of x-force, was leader of countless special opt teams/ military campaigns. He a great leader which has been brought up a number of times by the likes of Snowbird, Mac and even cyclopes among others. He simply dislike leading teams which comes from a number of reason which difficult to understand unless you have read his comic runs.So you like cyclopes better good for you.
So your more likely to be ignorant of characters, personalities and abilities then fans of them who consistently read there stories.
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says mister "wolverine would be a better leader"
uhuh
Originally posted by BattlehammerIt was in the FF. The arc where future Sue comes back in time. So it was a future Logan. PM me and I'll find the issue for you tomorrow.
Realy when was this? Dam I am slacking on my comic reading. Yea I dont get it either why everyone hates him so.
I do think a lot of the problems comes from Marvel. They seem to make him uber for some arcs then barely a threat in other arcs. Seems like they've started to even the character out recently. He's no longer a god-like character but still shows some good feats. I think him hurting Rulk but getting BFRed was pretty close to both of their power sets imo.