Thor & Captain Marvel Vs. Wonder Woman & Orion

Started by quanchi11212 pages

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ah ok it pretty impressive. Not as impressive as i initially thought because it looks like he didn't put much weight or momentum into that punch. Impressive nonetheless because that's Supes! Plus it was directily at the back of her head. That would KO almost anyone.
Exactly. It was like there was no momentum whatsoever in that punch, but it's still kinda impressive.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
He was sun amped and angry. She wasn't fighting back. Anyone else would be killed by a punch like that. You are insufferable.
She was fighting back or else she'd have been in the sun. It's like you didn't even read it. She also whipped out k-nite and the writer didn't seem to be going for the whole sun amp thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. It was like there was no momentum whatsoever in that punch, but it's still kinda impressive.

This punch has lots of momentum

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/glcof14wwdurability5iy.jpg

Here Superman rushes in to fight the same guy

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/33/1228373_790x1248.jpg

And here he is Ko'd

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/33/1228375_830x1238.jpg

Diana tanked a punch from a guy that Ko'd Superman in less than a panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was fighting back or else she'd have been in the sun. It's like you didn't even read it. She also whipped out k-nite and the writer didn't seem to be going for the whole sun amp thing.

Superman gets sun amped while near the sun. That is common knowlege. She was holding back. She was trying to get the k-nite out. That isn't fighting back to me if she's trying to pull out K-nite. Ug.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When? Gladiator did use his speed throughout the fight. When Thor quit holding back he stomped Gladiator. Gladiator was out to stop Thor at all costs. Supes didn't rare back or anything for that punch. Don't get me wrong it's impressive but he is mindcontrolled again. When he punched her and good in ww 219 she was temporarily ko'd.

*staring blankly at the screen, incredulous*

Yes, he is mind-controlled again... that means he is not holding back, as Count Chochula certainly isn't out to be kind.

And of course the blow he delivers isn't nearly what he delivered, full-on deathrage, empowered by the sun, during the Lord fight... why/how could it be?

Yeah... Zeuodin is right. You ignore what you don't like, and have (as I put it) no ability to read properly into what is presented and relate it in any proper manner to other materials/correlations.

Very disappointing... I was almost agreeing with you on some other posts in other threads... I will have to reconsider that now, as unlike with Zeuodin, I don't think I can place any trust in your references/opinions, as even when you post scans/links of your own, you misread them to a disturbing degree...

Originally posted by Zeuodin
This punch has lots of momentum

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/glcof14wwdurability5iy.jpg

Here Superman rushes in to fight the same guy

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/33/1228373_790x1248.jpg

And here he is Ko'd

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/12/33/1228375_830x1238.jpg

Diana tanked a punch from a guy that Ko'd Superman in less than a panel.

That's more impressive. But it still doesn't suggest she can take a hard hammer shot from Thor nor a magical whammy by Marvel.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman gets sun amped while near the sun. That is common knowlege. She was holding back. She was trying to get the k-nite out. That isn't fighting back to me if she's trying to pull out K-nite. Ug.
Not all writers recognize this. K-nite also weakens him and she got it out. So take your pick cuz either way he wasn't charged up like in superman/batman.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman gets sun amped while near the sun. That is common knowlege. She was holding back. She was trying to get the k-nite out. That isn't fighting back to me if she's trying to pull out K-nite. Ug.

More accurately, she was *resisting*, certainly, and not just going "Oh, please throw me into the sun -- my tan is fading..."

She wasn't *fighting back* in the sense of all-out bloodrage, like Superman was displaying...

I am new here -- is quanchi always like this?

Originally posted by tideoftime
More accurately, she was *resisting*, certainly, and not just going "Oh, please throw me into the sun -- my tan is fading..."

She wasn't *fighting back* in the sense of all-out bloodrage, like Superman was displaying...

I am new here -- is quanchi always like this?

She was fighting back or else she would be in the sun. If she wasn't fighting back or trying to avoid this then why would she be desperately searching for the k-nite?

Are you always like this? Zeuodin's been here a month. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's more impressive. But it still doesn't suggest she can take a hard hammer shot from Thor nor a magical whammy by Marvel.

Not all writers recognize this. K-nite also weakens him and she got it out. So take your pick cuz either way he wasn't charged up like in superman/batman.

The k-nite didn't have time to really kick-in; it was only a small piece, and he punched her before there was time for it to appreciably affect him.

Obviously.

You are really not getting any of this, are you?

And no, I am not trying to be a smartass, nor be mean; if you could hear me, and my tone of voice, you'd be able to tell that I am just absolutely amazed that subtextual writing is this lost on you. Seriously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's more impressive. But it still doesn't suggest she can take a hard hammer shot from Thor nor a magical whammy by Marvel.

Not all writers recognize this. K-nite also weakens him and she got it out. So take your pick cuz either way he wasn't charged up like in superman/batman.


magical whammy from Marvel? Looks like she gave him one of her own.

Is Thor's hammer going to do more dmg than an angry Zeus?

here CM hits Wonder Woman with force and of course as I showed you in the first panel, It didn't even phase her

Thor's hammer isn't going to hit any harder than Zooms light speed Kicks. Diana was blind and couldn't even brace for those attacks. And she's literally still concious.

Originally posted by tideoftime
The k-nite didn't have time to really kick-in; it was only a small piece, and he punched her before there was time for it to appreciably affect him.

Obviously.

You are really not getting any of this, are you?

And no, I am not trying to be a smartass, nor be mean; if you could hear me, and my tone of voice, you'd be able to tell that I am just absolutely amazed that subtextual writing is this lost on you. Seriously.

I have gotten all of it. You back WW to the point of absurdity. You want to say Supes was amped and completely dismiss the k-nite. You want to pretend WW didn't fight back at all.

She barely held back after she cheapshotted him and took advantage of his senses.

Really, it's obvious to me you are a huge WW fan and live in your own world. Seriously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was fighting back or else she would be in the sun. If she wasn't fighting back or trying to avoid this then why would she be desperately searching for the k-nite?

Are you always like this? Zeuodin's been here a month. 😖hifty:

I have been here just a couple days, which is revealing enough for me to know that you're opinion/perception of things is highly questionable.

And she was searching for the k-nite so as to try to subdue him...

Dude... seriously...

Are you just being this way to have something to do, or are you just not that good a interpreting story/writing presentation? I mean, this isn't Shakespeare -- most of the imagery and allusions of style aren't that hard to "read" (that is, understand contextually)...

Not trying to sound aggressive, but... I mean...

REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
magical whammy from Marvel? Looks like she gave him one of her own.

Is Thor's hammer going to do more dmg than an angry Zeus?

here CM hits Wonder Woman with force and of course as I showed you in the first panel, It didn't even phase her

Thor's hammer isn't going to hit any harder than Zooms light speed Kicks. Diana was blind and couldn't even brace for those attacks. And she's literally still concious.

Yes, she avoids his punch and uses her skill. This is what she needs to do to keep herself in the fight. At the end of your scan we see what a Marvel punch can do to her. LOL.

Thor's hammer is going to hit a lot harder than that imo. In masterson's hands it almost killed Gladiator. He was a noob at the time with his powers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, she avoids his punch and uses her skill. This is what she needs to do to keep herself in the fight. At the end of your scan we see what a Marvel punch can do to her. LOL.

Thor's hammer is going to hit a lot harder than that imo. In masterson's hands it almost killed Gladiator. He was a noob at the time with his powers.

You are so slow at times. The last scan is page 24. he didn't even Ko her. She is up fighting on page 32 in the first scan. His powerful punch did nothing. She avoided his punch because she is smart. if he were smart he would have avoided her kick. which did just as much dmg to him. Or didn't you pay attention to that? You didn't. let me remind you. she hurt him when she kicked him. Thor's hammer is going to hit harder than Zooms punches in your opinoin? that's really all you have isn't it? I've shown that she can dish out and take punishment on the level of Thor and Superman and you give opinions. it's in your opinion this and that. I've literally beaten the crap out of you in every thread.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
You are so slow at times. The last scan is page 24. he didn't even Ko her. She is up fighting on page 32 in the first scan. His powerful punch did nothing. She avoided his punch because she is smart. if he were smart he would have avoided her kick. which did just as much dmg to him. Or didn't you pay attention to that? You didn't. let me remind you. she hurt him when she kicked him. Thor's hammer is going to hit harder than Zooms punches in your opinoin? that's really all you have isn't it? I've shown that she can dish out and take punishment on the level of Thor and Superman and you give opinions. it's in your opinion this and that. I've literally beaten the crap out of you in every thread.
The point is his punch obviously affected her moreso than her kick affected him.

She needs to roll to avoid damage here because he's stronger than her. My opinion is still right as it always was.

Thor's hammer has inflicted pain on Galactus. The first feelings of pain in quite a long time to boot. Are you comparing WW to Galactus?

😂

The hammer quickly put down Glads in Thor's hands when he quit holding back. The hammer annihilated the Surfer who is far more durable than WW. I mean seriously, if the best you have has already been posted you're blown out of the water as usual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Really, it's obvious to me you are a huge WW fan and live in your own world. Seriously.

Uhhhhh... nooooooooo....

I have already disagreed on points of her with Zeuodin on at least one of the other threads, in terms of battle context, where I don't think she would win, even though others think she might.

And *nobody* was more surprised by how well she held up fighting Superman in the Lord battle than me; I thought for certain that he would kill her if she didn't figure something out and quick. After some later reflection, and then understanding that aspects of her had advanced further than I had judged at that point (a few years ago), I went "Yeah, that actually makes sense... I mean, DC has been drilling home the point that she is suppose to be in the same league as Captain Marvel and Superman since at least '99 (and conceptually before that), so... okay"

*You* are the one being absurd in your interpretations of what has been presented here, including subtle misreadings of your *own* scans/pics, which have nothing directly to do with her, but I still find highly questionable, and agree with Zeuodin that you're missing something in each of these (WW being completely beside the point in this regard).

Originally posted by tideoftime
Uhhhhh... nooooooooo....

I have already disagreed on points of her with Zeuodin on at least one of the other threads, in terms of battle context, where I don't think she would win, even though others think she might.

And *nobody* was more surprised by how well she held up fighting Superman in the Lord battle than me; I thought for certain that he would kill her if she didn't figure something out and quick. After some later reflection, and then understanding that aspects of her had advanced further than I had judged at that point (a few years ago), I went "Yeah, that actually makes sense... I mean, DC has been drilling home the point that she is suppose to be in the same league as Captain Marvel and Superman since at least '99 (and conceptually before that), so... okay"

*You* are the one being absurd in your interpretations of what has been presented here, including subtle misreadings of your *own* scans/pics, which have nothing directly to do with her, but I still find highly questionable, and agree with Zeuodin that you're missing something in each of these (WW being completely beside the point in this regard).

I got it the first 5 times you told me. I also recall you saying you were going to bed an hour ago. LOL. I disagree and stand by my assessment. Quit retelling me the same things how you agree with zeuodin. I get it already. If you want to continue the debate at hand do so or else have a great night.

Wonder Woman beats Black Mary who at the time had Black Adam's powers and the power DS gave her.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Wonder Woman beats Black Mary who at the time had Black Adam's powers and the power DS gave her.

So no one near Galactus level.

I could name more impressive characters than this. Gladiator, Mangog, Durok, Loki, Abomination, Surfer and Warlock at the same time, Ares and Pluto at the same time, Hela. Need I go on? This is getting rather embarrassing.

It's all opinion really. Even posts only help reinforce opinions. It's because the bottom line is they are from different universes. Who's to say Zoom can't hurt Galactus with a lightspeed punch like how Thor hurt him with a hammer strike?