Thor AND Wonder Woman vs Superman and Captain Marvel

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Thor AND Wonder Woman vs Superman and Captain Marvel

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Ug. Team 2. Speed.

close match...if thor fights supes team 1 wins...if WW fights supes team 2 wins

Agreed^^ But i knew someone would factor in speed. what about magic causing team 2 to lose do to superman being the weak link?

Originally posted by BattleMage
Agreed^^ But i knew someone would factor in speed. what about magic causing team 2 to lose do to superman being the weak link?

I agree.

Much as with the the other, similar, threads, this is a tough call, as each side has holes (Diana not quite as durable as the others; Thor not as fast on the move; Superman vulnerable to magical attacks; Captain Marvel being the least "skilled" in combat, which normally wouldn't matter except he's up against two of the best fighters in DC/Marvel).

Think I'll have to go 5/5 on this, as I did with the other combinations. Circumstance just plays too big a hand when dealing with these types of combos, as each has edges over the other.

But it'd be one hell of a fight, regardless...

Team 2.

Originally posted by tideoftime
I agree.

Much as with the the other, similar, threads, this is a tough call, as each side has holes (Diana not quite as durable as the others; Thor not as fast on the move; Superman vulnerable to magical attacks; Captain Marvel being the least "skilled" in combat, which normally wouldn't matter except he's up against two of the best fighters in DC/Marvel).

Think I'll have to go 5/5 on this, as I did with the other combinations. Circumstance just plays too big a hand when dealing with these types of combos, as each has edges over the other.

But it'd be one hell of a fight, regardless...

CM least skilled? Last i checked superman was not a skilled h2h fighter in any art form other than brawler!

Originally posted by BattleMage
CM least skilled? Last i checked superman was not a skilled h2h fighter in any art form other than brawler!

Supes and WW spar/work out semi-regularly in JL/WW. But my point to that was really in reference to the opposition, as he isn't fighting Superman in this scenario. Should have been more clear. My bad.

CM is the least experienced by numbers, but his boxing skills against Supes has always looked impressive. That Wisdom of Solomon boi.

I'm liking the fact that Wondy and Thor have so many "magical" tricks up their sleeves. They win barely because Supes is still a beast and Captain Marvel is as tough as they come.

Team 2 5.5/10

TRue to that.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
CM is the least experienced by numbers, but his boxing skills against Supes has always looked impressive. That Wisdom of Solomon boi.
Captain Marvel has no battle experience compared to Superman and Wonder Woman and Thor. Wisdom of Solomon doesn't give him Experience or skill. Solomon wasn't a fighter.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman has no battle experience compared to Superman
???

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Superman has no battle experience compared to Superman and Wonder Woman and Thor. Wisdom of Solomon doesn't give him Experience or skill. Solomon wasn't a fighter.

Solomon's knowledge base is rather vague. He is learned in tactics though.Even if you don't attribute it to the Wisdom of Solomon, the fighting skill Marvel does have (and its pretty good) has to come from at least one his attributes. Maybe Achilles.

Certainly can't come from his own experience as Teenage Billy lol.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Solomon's knowledge base is rather vague. He is learned in tactics though.Even if you don't attribute it to the Wisdom of Solomon, the fighting skill Marvel does have (and its pretty good) has to come from at least one his attributes. Maybe Achilles.

Certainly can't come from his own experience as Teenage Billy lol.

In a forum battle, he isn't out experiencing the other three in skill. WW,Thor and Superman all have literal Thousands of years fighting experience.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Solomon's knowledge base is rather vague. He is learned in tactics though.Even if you don't attribute it to the Wisdom of Solomon, the fighting skill Marvel does have (and its pretty good) has to come from at least one his attributes. Maybe Achilles.

Certainly can't come from his own experience as Teenage Billy lol.

And much like Diana's (much under-written) Wisdom of Athena, Cap potentially has the ability to understand/have useful insight into a situation -- even combat -- that might take some by surprise. But much as his blessings are more overtly physical (as the Romans were conceptually "flat" and literal) -- having more immediate divine blessings that are physical, as opposed to some of WW's more esoteric blessings (as the Greeks were more abstact), which is part of why her skill/finesse is much greater, this usually doesn't get much play on the page.

In a forum battle, he isn't out experiencing the other three in skill. WW,Thor and Superman all have literal Thousands of years fighting experience.

Hence I said in my first post that he has the least experience. 😐

Nowhere did I say he was out experiencing anyone.

And in a forum battle the battle skills he has displayed despite his conventional experience being no greater than a 12 year old boy is not discounted. Hence, his getting some kind of battle experience from somewhere. He's no less skilled than Superman by showings. Not at WW or Thor levels, but skill has its plateaus.

Originally posted by tideoftime
And much like Diana's (much under-written) Wisdom of Athena, Cap potentially has the ability to understand/have useful insight into a situation -- even combat -- that might take some by surprise. But much as his blessings are more overtly physical (as the Romans were conceptually "flat" and literal) -- having more immediate divine blessings that are physical, as opposed to some of WW's more esoteric blessings (as the Greeks were more abstact), which is part of why her skill/finesse is much greater, this usually doesn't get much play on the page.
Check the Respect thread. The skills section is good. They forgot and left out the fight she had with the Meta Ninja tho.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Check the Respect thread. The skills section is good. They forgot and left out the fight she had with the Meta Ninja tho.

You mean the one where she was teamed up with Jessie Quick? Or a later encounter? (It's late, I'm tired, and stuff is getting wonky 🙁 )

Originally posted by tideoftime
You mean the one where she was teamed up with Jessie Quick? Or a later encounter? (It's late, I'm tired, and stuff is getting wonky 🙁 )
There was a later encounter where she was fighting some meta ninja. I think it was a jla book. The ninja negated all of her powers and she had to fight totally with martial arts skills alone.