Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusnot really. superman is actually superior to thor both in fighting and in power level. thor's magic is overrated.
This is pretty accurate.Unless Diana gets Marvel or Superman in her lasso or stays behind her force field she gets put down. Especially if it's Superman.
Originally posted by Starscream M
not really. superman is actually superior to thor both in fighting and in power level. thor's magic is overrated.
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First of all I said Superman's team wins.
Second of all, how exactly is Superman a better fighter than Thor, and how exactly is Superman more powerful than Thor?
Thor's magic is overrated? Heh.
Third of all, did I even mention of how Thor/Superman match up to each other?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyeah, you made it sound like if superman faced thor, he would lose
😐First of all I said Superman's team wins.
Second of all, how exactly is Superman a better fighter than Thor, and how exactly is Superman more powerful than Thor?
Thor's magic is overrated? Heh.
Third of all, did I even mention of how Thor/Superman match up to each other?
superman is a better fighter than thor because of higher punching power, reflexes, flight being better incorporated into his attacks, etc...need I go on?
Superman is more powerful than thor in that he is stronger and much much faster.
Yes, thor's magic is overrated.
Originally posted by Starscream MI disagree with most of this.
yeah, you made it sound like if superman faced thor, he would losesuperman is a better fighter than thor because of higher punching power, reflexes, flight being better incorporated into his attacks, etc...need I go on?
Superman is more powerful than thor in that he is stronger and much much faster.
Yes, thor's magic is overrated.
Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, you made it sound like if superman faced thor, he would lose
I agreed that Wonder Woman would lose it for Team 1. I think unless she shields herself or gets lucky with the Lasso, either of Team 2 beats her and Team 2 double teams Thor. Either of Team 2 are strong enough that they can either take on Thor and keep him busy. Thor would have to stop brawling and bust out his power set if he wants to win it for his team, but on average, it's more likely he brawls against his team mate.
And yes, if Thor faced Superman in a real fight, he would win.
Originally posted by Starscream M
superman is a better fighter than thor because of higher punching power, reflexes, flight being better incorporated into his attacks, etc...need I go on?Superman is more powerful than thor in that he is stronger and much much faster.
Yes, thor's magic is overrated.
You have a really different definition of someone being a better fighter than I do.
Punching power? Easily debatable. Even if we go by the interpretations that Thor hits harder with Mjolnir than without, the difference is really minor between them. If Superman's punching power is harder than Thor's punching power, which an argument could be made for as Superman has more feats of pure punching power, the difference would be so small it would not be very significant at all.
Thor can incorporate his flight speed into his attacks really well too. I was just flipping through the first few issues of Beta Ray Bill, and he was fighting against Skuttlebutt and even tossing Mjlonir at it and at the same time keeping up with it, and Skuttlebutt was stated as going multiple times the speed of light.
Thor's reflexes aren't exactly bad either.
Yes, please do go on. How about we make a list?
Thor is has much better defensive capabilities, and has much better offensive output in terms of power. Thor is much more versatile as well. He can teleport, he can manipulate matter, he can manipulate energy as well to a ridiculous degree. Everything from magnetic forces, to gravity, to cosmic energy etc. He has countless random shit, like turning things intangible and invisible, erasing peoples minds or communicating through telepathy, manipulating life forces and souls, he can sense energy signatures and track them down, create illusions and images, see things that are happening across dimensions, illusion dispersion etc. His also the God of Thunder and has everything that entitles. I can go all day if I want to by listing what Thor can do better than Superman.
Oh noes, Superman can maybe, possibly hit harder than Thor, and has better reflexes. SUPER POWER > THOR POWAHH!!!
Superman being more effective in physical prowess, does not indicate that he is more powerful than Thor.
What is your definition of being more powerful?
Did you completely ignore what Thor can do when you came to the conclusion his more powerful than Thor?
Superman has better body movement obviously. Thor has comparable flight speed even without Mjolnir.
No his magic really isn't. Clark's just lucky most people don't take into account the fact that he is as vulnerable to magic as anyone else or not particularly invulnerable to it at beast when they figure who would win in a fight between Thor or Superman like I do.
I've seen Werewolves and Vampires hurt and/or **** Superman's shit up as I recall. I'm pretty sure about the Werewolves part.
Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, you made it sound like if superman faced thor, he would losesuperman is a better fighter than thor because of higher punching power, reflexes, flight being better incorporated into his attacks, etc...need I go on?
Superman is more powerful than thor in that he is stronger and much much faster.
Yes, thor's magic is overrated.
whoa...
I have over the past week or so been finding myself in the position of defending Wonder Woman to those who don't know the character well/underrate her; I now have to tag over to Thor on this one.
While I think Thor as a *character* is often overrated (mind you, I like Thor), I wouldn't go as far as you have. Thor's magical abilities are certainly strong enough to screw with Superman, royally, and while Supes is faster and more immediately invulnerable, in terms of HtH, I'd put them about equal in strength, with Thor's power as a god compensating to a good degree for the difference in relative speed. Now, I'm not a fanboi in eithers favor: Thor has got some edge on Superman, but only a fool would think Supes couldn't get over on Thor, if he needed to. A tough fight, with the likely victory going to whomever can get the most "drop" shots in fast enough (Thor via Mjolner, or Superman via speed/secondary powers) -- and speed isn't a automatic in this particular battle.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I agreed that Wonder Woman would lose it for Team 1. I think unless she shields herself or gets lucky with the Lasso, either of Team 2 beats her and Team 2 double teams Thor. Either of Team 2 are strong enough that they can either take on Thor and keep him busy. Thor would have to stop brawling and bust out his power set if he wants to win it for his team, but on average, it's more likely he brawls against his team mate.And yes, if Thor faced Superman in a real fight, he would win.
You have a really different definition of someone being a better fighter than I do.
Punching power? Easily debatable. Even if we go by the interpretations that Thor hits harder with Mjolnir than without, the difference is really minor between them. If Superman's punching power is harder than Thor's punching power, which an argument could be made for as Superman has more feats of pure punching power, the difference would be so small it would not be very significant at all.
Thor can incorporate his flight speed into his attacks really well too. I was just flipping through the first few issues of Beta Ray Bill, and he was fighting against Skuttlebutt and even tossing Mjlonir at it and at the same time keeping up with it, and Skuttlebutt was stated as going multiple times the speed of light.
Thor's reflexes aren't exactly bad either.
Yes, please do go on. How about we make a list?
Thor is has much better defensive capabilities, and has much better offensive output in terms of power. Thor is much more versatile as well. He can teleport, he can manipulate matter, he can manipulate energy as well to a ridiculous degree. Everything from magnetic forces, to gravity, to cosmic energy etc. He has countless random shit, like turning things intangible and invisible, erasing peoples minds or communicating through telepathy, manipulating life forces and souls, he can sense energy signatures and track them down, create illusions and images, see things that are happening across dimensions, illusion dispersion etc. His also the God of Thunder and has everything that entitles. I can go all day if I want to by listing what Thor can do better than Superman.
Oh noes, Superman can maybe, possibly hit harder than Thor, and has better reflexes. SUPER POWER > THOR POWAHH!!!
Superman being more effective in physical prowess, does not indicate that he is more powerful than Thor.
What is your definition of being more powerful?
Did you completely ignore what Thor can do when you came to the conclusion his more powerful than Thor?
Superman has better body movement obviously. Thor has comparable flight speed even without Mjolnir.
No his magic really isn't. Clark's just lucky most people don't take into account the fact that he is as vulnerable to magic as anyone else or not particularly invulnerable to it at beast when they figure who would win in a fight between Thor or Superman like I do.
I've seen Werewolves and Vampires hurt and/or **** Superman's shit up as I recall. I'm pretty sure about the Werewolves part.
sigh...I should know better than to debate you on anything to do with thor.
yes, I'm aware of thor's various powers....the problem is most of them are quiet useless against an enemy as fast as superman.
and superman is vastly faster than thor. thor was speedblitzed by gladiator, and superman would make gladiator look slow in comparison.
superman isn't really any more vulnerable to magic these days than any other character.
Originally posted by tideoftimeI never said it would be an easy fight for superman. but if we go by forum rules, I think superman's speed would out-trump thor's versatility.
whoa...I have over the past week or so been finding myself in the position of defending Wonder Woman to those who don't know the character well/underrate her; I now have to tag over to Thor on this one.
While I think Thor as a *character* is often overrated (mind you, I like Thor), I wouldn't go as far as you have. Thor's magical abilities are certainly strong enough to screw with Superman, royally, and while Supes is faster and more immediately invulnerable, in terms of HtH, I'd put them about equal in strength, with Thor's power as a god compensating to a good degree for the difference in relative speed. Now, I'm not a fanboi in eithers favor: Thor has got some edge on Superman, but only a fool would think Supes couldn't get over on Thor, if he needed to. A tough fight, with the likely victory going to whomever can get the most "drop" shots in fast enough (Thor via Mjolner, or Superman via speed/secondary powers) -- and speed isn't a automatic in this particular battle.
if they fought in a comic, then it would prob be a draw.
Originally posted by Spire
Superman does this.
While taking a low feat can cause a number of people to cry "Foul", I have to say: Good Homework! You get a gold star!
(Would only work out that way in a slanted story, but still... that was a pretty awesome duel-scan... tip'o the hat, as Colbert would say...)
More underestimating WW. I'm to tired to deal with it.
Suffice it to say this i a 5/10 split. If I had to give the slight edge to one team i would be 1, due to Thor. WW has before and can again stalemate Marvel. Add in her lasso and she is extremely dangerous to him. Diana knows exactly what she needs to do to beat CM and you can bet she will. And Rage.of.Olympus, luck has nothing to do with her lassoing him. It's called speed and skill.
Thor and Supes would also probably fight to a stalemate, but I would give the slight edge to Thor.
If the pairings are switched, WW would probably lose to Supes after a long fight, but Marvel goes down to Thor as well. I don't know which would happen first.
Originally posted by Starscream M
sigh...I should know better than to debate you on anything to do with thor.yes, I'm aware of thor's various powers....the problem is most of them are quiet useless against an enemy as fast as superman.
and superman is vastly faster than thor. thor was speedblitzed by gladiator, and superman would make gladiator look slow in comparison.
superman isn't really any more vulnerable to magic these days than any other character.
SPEED BLITZ......SPEED BLITZZZ...
get lost dude this speed blitzshit dont work in theses forums thor beats supes on theses boards all the time. this fight can go either way.
50/50
