Originally posted by quanchi112Cap marvel can depower WW with lightning of zeus since she is powered by an olympion
Superman isn't greater than Thor by any means. Thor is more powerful and his reflexes are superior. I agree that Marvel is greater than WW, but she can definitely take him on while Thor beats Superman.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Cap marvel can depower WW with lightning of zeus since she is powered by an olympion
Now I think you're just being flip/looking to spark stuff.
That's utterly absurd. Where would you even get an idea like that?
The aspects of power that fuel CM and fuel WW are distinct and separate, even within the gods themselves (the only overlap being the Speed of Mercury/Hermes, and that investment is not "shared" by them, merely duplicated.)
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😐Oh really? Because clearly "Tempest=Thor" physically and Superman is anywhere as skilled as Mantis right?
Are you really trying to pass off the Mantis thing as something Clark can do, when at that time, she one shot an Elder of the Universe with one of those attacks, a giant ant for some reason, and dropped Vision a freaking android with her attack somehow to etc. Heck, he the writer had her toss Thor, Iron Man, Black Panther and Vision who were trying to restrain her like a sack of potatoes as I recall. That writer though called Thor invulnerable I believe. He also had her literally state when she was taking on the Avengers, that against her no matter how strong you are, it doesn't matter because her skill is too great. They literally gave no other reason than she was "that" good. She was the Karate Kid of Marvel in that era. She had the entire I can see weaknesses in an opponent thing going as I recall.....
I might as well post scans of Atlas beating the shit out of Superman because of the entire magic shtick, and say Thor would do it....
Superman needs to be as skilled as Mantis to perform something he has already performed?
Nevermind that no skill was displayed in that scan and all it consists of was hitting a nerve with one's hand.
Lol at you raging and post scans of Atlas.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh goody goody.I guess Thor does this.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/Thor_1981_305_18.jpghttp://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/ActionComics779-17-1.jpg
Or WW could do this.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/WonderWomanv221920.jpg
What a lame attempt at being a true Thor fan.
What were you trying to show with those scans? That Superman can be punched, hurt, cut?
We already know that.
Originally posted by SpireLame attempt, eh?
What a lame attempt at being a true Thor fan.What were you trying to show with those scans? That Superman can be punched, hurt, cut?
We already know that.
Superman had his jaw broken in the scan. It was crushed. A Superman fan should realize as much.
WW cut his throat with one tiara toss. His throat was utterly slashed. Both scans show him being physically assaulted. You post someone of uber skill getting Thor while his attention was elsewhere so I posted one scan of Superman's glass jaw when his attention was directed elsewhere.
Originally posted by SpireThe difference is this was a one on one fight in which Superman was dominated and needed the power of the sun to beat. He also was saved his his dog. LOL.
Superman needs to be as skilled as Mantis to perform something he has already performed?Nevermind that no skill was displayed in that scan and all it consists of was hitting a nerve with one's hand.
Lol at you raging and post scans of Atlas.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeObviously. Thor doesn't just try to murder all his opponents on the spot. The moment he realized it was a machine he showed he had the power to destroy it with one hammer toss. This shows how much Thor holds back in most of his fights and what he is capable of.
Thor's got such a great team-mate.....Also, is Thor going to try and kill Superman? Doubt that. Only reason he hammered Air-Walker properly was because the thing was a robot, not an actual living being.
Originally posted by NihilistProven? When?
Thor aint greater than Supreman at all as proven.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lame attempt, eh?Superman had his jaw broken in the scan. It was crushed. A Superman fan should realize as much.
WW cut hos throat with one tiara toss. His throat was utterly slashed. Both scans show him being physically assaulted. You post someone of uber skill getting Thor while his attention was elsewhere so I posted one scan of Superman's glass jaw when his attention was directed elsewhere.
Again, true Thor fan, what were you trying to show with those scans? That Superman can be punched, hurt, cut?
We already know that.
Originally posted by SpireOh, this is the part where you continually restate yourself. LOL.
Again, true Thor fan, what were you trying to show with those scans? That Superman can be punched, hurt, cut?We already know that.
Not just hurt his jaw was crushed by an equal in terms of power. Thor's by far his superior in terms of power.
A lucky nerve strike I'll take any day of the week rather than having your jaw destroyed by an equal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Obviously. Thor doesn't just try to murder all his opponents on the spot. The moment he realized it was a machine he showed he had the power to destroy it with one hammer toss. This shows how much Thor holds back in most of his fights and what he is capable of.
Hyperion's an example of this as well.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh, this is the part where you continually restate yourself. LOL.Not just hurt his jaw was crushed by an equal in terms of power. Thor's by far his superior in terms of power.
A lucky nerve strike I'll take any day of the week rather than having your jaw destroyed by an equal.
I restate myself out of generosity so that you might have another chance to understand.
What were you trying to show, true Thor fan? That Superman can be hurt?
We know he can be hurt.
Originally posted by SpireKeep it up polly. When you are cornered and beaten you continually restate yourself all day.
I restate myself out of generosity so that you might have another chance to understand.What were you trying to show, true Thor fan? That Superman can be hurt?
We know he can be hurt.
That a Superman equal can break his jaw when his attention is elsewhere. Your scan was a lame attempt at riling up Thor fans. You can't even beat me at the game you yourself started.
I guess your scan was proof that Thor can be nerve struck when his attention is elsewhere. If Supes turns his face in this one Thor's hammer breaks his jaw even worse than Zod has.
Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have to go, but I'll say this first...When they went blow for blow as I recall, Thor knocked Superman on his ass after they traded punches, for like a page, and was down for the rest of the fight. And he was rocked hard, as I recall his speech bubble had those shaky like lines.
Your memory seems to omit the fact that Superman was striked away by Mjonlir, off panel, through the forrest. Thor approaches him and Superman uses Heat Vision. Thor withstands it and attacks Superman. The latter catches the hammer, one-handed, with Thor making it clear that Superman's strength is astonishing and the next panel shows Superman one-punching Thor unsconscious while sitting on a piece of wood.
"Shaky like lines" is, I admit, hilarious in its own right as an argument. I could easily point out that it expresses Superman's anger, the dialogue and depiction of the panel easily backing up my point, but it just deviates from the true point of this discussion, which is that Superman was clearly depicted as Thor's physical superior, shown by actions and statements.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
After Thor waded through a doss of heat vision for like a page Superman does knock him out, after barely stopping that hammer strike. And it was made pretty clear, that Busiek wanted to show that heat vision as a factor, as it clearly affected Thor severely.
Memory is down. Now, apparently, logic isn't your forte either. Would you say that Thor would be astonished by Superman catching his hammer if HV had substantially affected the attack's potency and it was anything but his best strike ? Furthermore, you are trying to make it as if your speculations and biased interpretations of the scene would somehow be in agreement with Busiek's intentions. Hm. Would you like me to post Busiek's intentions when he wrote this fight, those being the Superman is clearly the physicall superior ? Heat Vision wasn't a factor and you have absolutley nothing to base yourself on and, in fact, Thor's statement logically contradicts that unsupported stance.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman also had an orgasm holding Mjolnir and feeling it's power. As well, according to him Thor was the toughest opponent he had ever fought. It should be noted, that Thor apparently has his measure now or whatever bullshit that was stated. A hint that Thor was holding back as he did not expect to fight someone that strong?Anyways later.
Superman also had an orgasm when feeling Captain Marvel's power once they merged. That shows nothing, and in case you're not aware of this, we're not discussing Mjolnir's power in comparison to Superman's. We're discussing Superman's strength being superior to Thor's, which was clearly depicted on-panel. As for the statement Superman made after catching Thor's all-out hammer strike with one-hand and one-punching him unconscious, Kurt Busiek has already made it clear what that was meant to express. It's admirable that he has the patience to point out hyperboles when idiots can't figure out it is. He made an analogy that it's similar to a person saying "That's the best meal I've ever had" after enjoying one. In the same way, it's meant to express that it was a difficult fight.
As for Thor holding back because he made an ego-fueled statement later in the series, that statement does not only not even hint at Thor holding back (biased interpretation being passed on as proof contrary to what logic dictates. Hm. I'm having a deja-vu) but it has nothing to do with what we're discussing in the first place, which is Superman's strength. Thor thinking that he might surprise Superman in the next bout with, and I know this might come as a shock, changing tactics does in no way contribue to our strength-related discussion. I know your logic and common sense breaks down when discussing Thor but at least you should be able to keep up with what we're discussing.
Furthermore, the fact that everything was on the line in his fight with Superman lends the ideea of Thor holding back in the fight null. Not only that, but Thor being shocked at Superman doing what he did, when he was actually holding back, points out how stupid this stance is. "WOWZERZ! The mighties in nine worlds couldn't have done this to my holding back strike!". -cue to Superman one-punching him unconscious-.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep it up polly. When you are cornered and beaten you continually restate yourself all day.That a Superman equal can break his jaw when his attention is elsewhere. Your scan was a lame attempt at riling up Thor fans. You can't even beat me at the game you yourself started.
I guess your scan was proof that Thor can be nerve struck when his attention is elsewhere. If Supes turns his face in this one Thor's hammer breaks his jaw even worse than Zod has.
Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
What were you trying to prove by posting scans of Superman being hurt?
I know! Before you posted the scans no one thought he could be hurt. Ever. I guess you proved everyone wrong.
Yes, the scan was proof that Thor can be nerve struck.
Originally posted by quanchi112When Supes beat him down like a chump.
Obviously. Thor doesn't just try to murder all his opponents on the spot. The moment he realized it was a machine he showed he had the power to destroy it with one hammer toss. This shows how much Thor holds back in most of his fights and what he is capable of. Proven? When?
