I love cap to death.... My gf got me cap memorbilia in fact...
But I gotta go with ds...
Top tier fighting skill
healing factor...
able to tag the flash
has taken down batman
it took batman and several batmanites to take down ds during ic...
Basically you get into
skill - tie
strength - cap
speed- ds
hf - ds
durability - cap
agility - tie?
Intelligence ds
Originally posted by Battlehammer
If you ever read a comic or fight when DS takes it to the team it quite evident there jobbing, to the point they get into eachothers way or some how forget there thousands of times faster then DS........
Like when cap fights frost giants or the wrecking crew who normally fight Thor...or ultron...
skill - DS
strength - Tie = strength of a 100 men http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/895/deathstrokestrength9kq.jpg
speed- DS = http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2695/newtitansv206220rougherun0.jpg
http://img454.imageshack.us/i/sladeflash3ea.jpg/
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3742/teentitans5pyratep02034iv.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/683/dsphoefeat3lp.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9016/deathstrokeannual03122pl.jpg
hf - DS = http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3869/sladeheal10tw.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2877/sladeheal22kt.jpg
stamina- Cap
durability - DS = 40 rounds from anti-tank machine gun straight into the chest, then kicks some ass.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4844/sladedurable4xa.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9670/sladedurable21wr.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/66/sladedurable36kr.jpg
agility - tie or slade with a slight edge.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2835/deathterm1217ww7.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2711/deathterm1218fz3.jpg
Intelligence -DS
Ds wrecked a team once where he knew exactly what he was going to do and alot of PiS was involved.
Cap has similar feats. In the early avengers days he ran rings around teh whole squad for the mto train and none of them used to land a hit for minutes.
DS has one strength feat to put him stronger than cap & it not in continuity. No-one in marvel is beyond being KOd by cap and class 100s have fallen before him. Cap's even hurt onslaught.
Iron Fist has flat out failed to connect with cap past the shield. Iron Fist who amps his stats to legit superhuman levels and is one of the most skilled guys on marvel earth.
Cap & batman are not equals. Cap would walk over him.
Deathstroke's HV is not like wolverines and never has it been. Its really not enough to factor into a fight....
I'd like to see how well Slade would do without his bullshit "90% brain activity" thing and his super-soldier enhancements. He certainly wouldn't be wrecking teams or embarrassing MA legends. Basic skills (not taking his enhanced speed, strength, or his tactical abilities into account) only he'd probably be on a similar level to Green Arrow or the Vic Sage Question. Highly skilled but not elite and certainly not Captain America level.
And khazra no way in hell would Cap ever walk over Batman. He could beat him but only after one very long fight due to his superior stamina when compared to Batman's and the shield.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Wrecking crew fluctuate so much that a terriable example.Frost giants? another terriable example the average ones powers arnt even that tough.
try again.
Okay then cap vs mr Hyde...iron man...
And frost giants have a base stat just like wrecking crew...
And the average giants... Are still giants... That fight with 40 ton average asgardians... Who still neede the avenger help ie cap and crewCap also decapitation an ultron...
Point is people job. Don't pick and choose just case it suits your side
Originally posted by rotiart
[BTop tier fighting skill
healing factor...
able to tag the flash
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Certainly not a top tier fighter, Tell that to Ironfist or Temugin and gtfo.
Not battlefield regeneration to the extent of a weapon X , so it matters not. he's limped away from a prolonged fight with Batman, let alone someone who is Batmans physical superior in every way.
So he's either as fast as Flash, in which case this must be spite, or he simply anticipated the path Flash would move to and hit him..Low showing for flash certainly, id go as far as to call Spidey/firelord on any low meta - who can just about hang with the batman - tagging Wally f**king west or Ballen.
Originally posted by Juk3n
Certainly not a top tier fighter, Tell that to Ironfist or Temugin and gtfo.Not battlefield regeneration to the extent of a weapon X , so it matters not. he's limped away from a prolonged fight with Batman, let alone someone who is Batmans physical superior in every way.
So he's either as fast as Flash, in which case this must be spite, or he simply anticipated the path Flash would move to and hit him..Low showing for flash certainly, id go as far as to call Spidey/firelord on any low meta - who can just about hang with the batman - tagging Wally f**king west or Ballen.
First off: He has never limped away from a one on one fight with Batman, he's a team wrecker to the point that when Batman and Nightwing managed to beat him in IC most fans cried foul because Batman, Nightwing, AND Robin is just enough to STALEMATE him ordinarily. He normally kicks Batman's ass one on one.
Second: Cap and Batman are comparable in every way with Cap's only real advantage being stamina.
Third: Tagging the Flash doesn't mean he's as fast as the Flash, you're just conflating the meaning of speed which in this case refers to reaction time and reflexes. It was within his ability to have a chance at tagging Flash and I believe half of it was luck but the other half was him being inhumanly fast, faster than Cap.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'd like to see how well Slade would do without his bullshit "90% brain activity" thing and his super-soldier enhancements. He certainly wouldn't be wrecking teams or embarrassing MA legends. Basic skills (not taking his enhanced speed, strength, or his tactical abilities into account) only he'd probably be on a similar level to Green Arrow or the Vic Sage Question. Highly skilled but not elite and certainly not Captain America level.And khazra no way in hell would Cap ever walk over Batman. He could beat him but only after one very long fight due to his superior stamina when compared to Batman's and the shield.
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I'd like to see how well Cap would do without his bullshit "unbreakable shield" thing and his super-soldier enhancements. He certainly woldn't be wrecking teams or embarrassing MA legends.
For that matter lets take away that bs gamma radiation from the Hulk and see how much damage Bruce Banner can do. Or make Superman a regular human and put him into a pit of Singapore dick slugs and see how long he can last.
Good idea.