Originally posted by Juk3nI meant that Logan is above Cap as in if they fight CIS off Logan would murder him all things concidered.
how does that work since Cap can be argued > Logan, are you weighing stats alone? strength/speed/reaction/skill, because there's no clear winner between logan and Cap.Offensive output? Shield vs claws?
Or are you saying Logan is > Cap because of the HF? Please clarify when you say DS is "Above Cap but below Logan"..how can DS fit perfectly between the 2 when they are so comparible?
Originally posted by BentleyWhich fight are you talking about? 'cause i've only seen 2, in the first one DS beat him and in the second Slade was mopping the floor with him the whole time till Bruce cheapshotted him.
I think DS got debunked when he fought Batman. That showing hurted his credibility.
Originally posted by carver9namor's never fought wendigo.......but he's fought and beaten the hulk several times, along with about 15 stalemates. he has several stalemates against herc, has one-shotted thing.....has fought surfer,thor,black bolt,sentry.....beat captain marvel, abomination, iron man, nova, etc etc etc........wolvie is no way near what namor does routinely.......so let's not even talk feats.
So wolverine beating the wendigo, fighting on par with a rage hulk, defeating hercules, the thing, going h2h with an enraged grey hulk ending in a stalemate, beating rogue house, a 100 tonner, etc.... still make you think that he cant beat someone like namor. He has fought and defeated people that is either>>namor or on his level so what are you talking about?Wolverine have to many showings that PROVES that he'll fu** namor up if given the chance and he has had at least 3 to 4 chance and has won the majority out of all of their appearanes.
Back on topic, Cap 8/10 in a fight
you put cap up 8/10 against a guy who can fight a team of people who have members that can beat cap individually....just one instance that comes to mind is him fighting donna troy, nightwing, jericho, ravager, and batgirl. nightwing could at least give cap a great fight......cassandra is IMO a better MA.........and donna troy is a freakin' wonder woman.......come on. you're simply a.....*ahem*......confused individual
Believe or not popularity plays a role here. That is why Cap is getting the consideration he is. Also DS is a villain (not a popular one like Thanos or Doom) and he will often get bad showings against heroes who are far beneath him (can't have the villain winning right?)
With that said
DS is physically superior (strength for example) and is just about as skilled (when he is at his best). DS has HF which is a huge advantage here and several weapons and gadgets. CA has to be at least 5 times better than DS just to overcome that HF advantage. Because it will take 5 hits from CA vs. 1 hit from DS to even things out. I don't see this happening in a forum fight.
Thus DS wins.
2. is just unfair.