Captain America (Rogers) vs. Deathstroke

Originally posted by Battlehammer
so you think DS can beat teams really now so if I made a thread you defend slade doing so?

I mean capt can't be any more inconsistent then a guy who has trouble everytime he versa them solo.

How many times has DS beat a team? How many times did he have one sided prep?

I bet your the kind of person who argues DS hitting flash as legitment speed feat.

Then there some one I know that consistently beat namor, but you refuse to acknolwedge it I find this interesting.

2.lol once more........who said he has trouble against Grade A peak human everytime he faces them......one contradiction i can think of is Cassandra Cain

3.I'm guessing enough times to be pegged as a "team-beater" by all of comicdom......cap hasn't obviously. one-sided prep wouldn't help too many streetlevelers in a match against hordes of characters of superhuman caliber, especially if they're still engaging them physically.also, he hasn't always had prep.

4.No, i'm the kind of person who understands the reasoning behind such a feat and thus deems it valid....apparently you're not.

5.lol, I bet you mention him in every thread don't you. to make this short:
You're definition of "consistent" needs work I'd assume. he's "won" the majority of their fights......but has never been displayed as someone who can take on a character of that class, caliber, or powerset consistently......as Namor has never been displayed so awfully as to be able to lose to such a "minor threat" to someone of his caliber.....at least not consistently(only in those fights)

Cap wins 1 and 3.

Also I love how Slade fans try to pass off Slade carrying that cable feat when its been proven to be non cannon. Cap also has a feat of lifting an entire car easily and holding up tons of girders(in a non canon book)

Plus Cap's cannon strength feats are better.

And I love how Slade fans insist Slade is superhuman when DC itself states he's "almost" superhuman. Which Cap has been called this as well.

And lets not forget that Cap's SSS healing is pretty darn impressive in itself.

Bottom line these two guys stories are very similar with Cap having over all the better feats.

fail

Originally posted by Daredevil1

And lets not forget that Cap's SSS healing is pretty darn impressive in itself.

It's not battlefield regeneration, his enhanced healing is useless in these scenerios.

DS takes the prep battle, Cap takes the non-prepd

why on earth would he take any scenario is what im wondering

cap would wipe the floor with deathstorke

okay......how so?

Mop the floor? Yeah, right.

Cap wins 1 and 3.

Man I remember back in 05 when Slade was considered this big deal on the forum and could take out like Spiderman and Wolverine with no problem. Now in 09 he can't beat Cap, or is around his level. Man things change. Back then Slade had high level precog and could beat the Flash in a fight by a couple of member's admission.

Oh and "MA" skill is not a direct indicator of fighting efficienty and furthermore all heroes on here are skilled if they can take on more than one person at once. That *is* the definition of skill.

are u saying that he's depowered these days? I wasnt aware of that. But his last showing against ravagers do suck.

Originally posted by SamZED
are u saying that he's depowered these days? I wasnt aware of that. But his last showing against ravagers do suck.

i personally always thought he's above cap and bats. Thougt he's slightly below logan, and unlike wolverine and deadpool his good showings are more constant.

Originally posted by SamZED
i personally always thought he's above cap and bats. Thougt he's slightly below logan, and unlike wolverine and deadpool his good showings are more constant.

I feel the same

Originally posted by SamZED
i personally always thought he's above cap and bats. Thougt he's slightly below logan,

how does that work since Cap can be argued > Logan, are you weighing stats alone? strength/speed/reaction/skill, because there's no clear winner between logan and Cap.

Offensive output? Shield vs claws?

Or are you saying Logan is > Cap because of the HF? Please clarify when you say DS is "Above Cap but below Logan"..how can DS fit perfectly between the 2 when they are so comparible?

Cap wins this 8/10

Originally posted by Juk3n
how does that work since Cap can be argued > Logan, are you weighing stats alone? strength/speed/reaction/skill, because there's no clear winner between logan and Cap.

Offensive output? Shield vs claws?

Or are you saying Logan is > Cap because of the HF? Please clarify when you say DS is "Above Cap but below Logan"..how can DS fit perfectly between the 2 when they are so comparible?

Originally posted by namorsubby
1. lol, well yes, but it would have to depend on the team and the history he's had against them

2.lol once more........who said he has trouble against Grade A peak human everytime he faces them......one contradiction i can think of is Cassandra Cain

3.I'm guessing enough times to be pegged as a "team-beater" by all of comicdom......cap hasn't obviously. one-sided prep wouldn't help too many streetlevelers in a match against hordes of characters of superhuman caliber, especially if they're still engaging them physically.also, he hasn't always had prep.

4.No, i'm the kind of person who understands the reasoning behind such a feat and thus deems it valid....apparently you're not.

5.lol, I bet you mention him in every thread don't you. to make this short:
You're definition of "consistent" needs work I'd assume. he's "won" the majority of their fights......but has never been displayed as someone who can take on a character of that class, caliber, or powerset consistently......as Namor has never been displayed so awfully as to be able to lose to such a "minor threat" to someone of his caliber.....at least not consistently(only in those fights)

So wolverine beating the wendigo, fighting on par with a rage hulk, defeating hercules, the thing, going h2h with an enraged grey hulk ending in a stalemate, beating rogue house, a 100 tonner, etc.... still make you think that he cant beat someone like namor. He has fought and defeated people that is either>>namor or on his level so what are you talking about?

Wolverine have to many showings that PROVES that he'll fu** namor up if given the chance and he has had at least 3 to 4 chance and has won the majority out of all of their appearanes.

Back on topic, Cap 8/10 in a fight

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Dude Logan is>Cap because of HF, durability, strength, and claws. Cap's advantage is in skill but Wolverine is good enough to compensate.

Right, so between Logan and Cap what puts Logan above is, the Ada skeleton, the HF and the claws..none of which DS has - well he has the HF, but it's hardly been shown as a battlefield regen on par with even half that of Logan.

There's still Speed/Reaction/Skill/strength to be argued, in the case of Logan and Cap, which are very very close as the 50+pages of their thread will tell you. And with combatants that evenl;y matched you want to slot DS neatly inbetween them and say he's > Cap but < Logan. I don't buy it. That logic is faulty for the very reason that Cap could be > Logan in some areas. DS has none of the clear durability advantages that would account for alot of wolverines wins against Cap. That was my only point to what the guy i quoted first said (SamZED).