Ninjitsu vs Kung fu

Started by valtiz8 pages
Originally posted by Mshinu
You have read too many comics...

when someone is sharing some information with you dont be so close minded try to actually open your mind and learn something instead of sticking to your basic knowledge... life is far more then your average Internet life you know hell we live in times where people born to slavery and getting killed just for fun but just because you know nothing about it doesnt mean someone else is a fool when he is trying to teach you something

Originally posted by snyper1982
My point was that someone who cross trains holds a vast tactical advantage over someone who doesn't which is why MOST fights where someone who cross trains goes up against someone who doesn't end with the person cross training getting the W. All the top fighters cross train, period. Their base is not as important as the cross training. With that being said though, I will repeat from my earlier post, I would take a pure wreslter over a pure martial artist every time, as it has consistently shown to be a superior technique in a no holds bared fight.
Your point is irrelevant to what was being discussed.

Machida is primarily a striker, and his primary MA is karate.

Originally posted by valtiz
when someone is sharing some information with you dont be so close minded try to actually open your mind and learn something instead of sticking to your basic knowledge... life is far more then your average Internet life you know hell we live in times where people born to slavery and getting killed just for fun but just because you know nothing about it doesnt mean someone else is a fool when he is trying to teach you something

Very well then, provide me some proof of these underground tournaments where contestants are killed in every other match.

Originally posted by valtiz
and this is where the skills part enter... not no offence or anything but if you never saw those so called "martial artists" win a single street fight then i guess they arent much of a fighters in the first place and if you seen them doing pretty flashy moves it doesnt mean they are martial artists it just means they know acrobatics because a real martial artist is known not because of fleshy pretty moves but because of his skills ands if they get beat up that means they arent fighters and they didnt dedicate enough time to actually learn how to fight and this is the problem today with people who do martial arts they focus to much on having a 6 pack and doing back flips like jackie chan then actually learn how to fight

now my point is simple... if you as a martial artist train in karate or boxing or what ever style it doesnt matter but you train yourself to the art of movement, the art of power and self control, if a person will learn karate properly and he will train he will achieve a better speed, better reflex, better stamina durability and striking force then the average street fighter and when he fights your average bully he will just beat him up because the bully wont be even able to take him down, now i really dont want to sound or look cocky but me and my 2 friends are muay thai fighters and we were in a fight where we took down 7 people with very easy because we moved much faster then them and it took 1 strike to take them down and myself personally when someone was trying to take me down i was fast enough to knee him in the chin and ko him those are the basics of any martial artist the speed reflex and power to take out any ordinary person from the street and i am nothing special just a typical martial art practitioner

🤨 shut up

Originally posted by Mshinu
Very well then, provide me some proof of these underground tournaments where contestants are killed in every other match.

My buddy and I actually participated in one yesterday. We both train Shaolin kung fu and we easily defeated ten other fighters at the same time because we moved much faster them and oneshotted them all. 😎

Originally posted by Naija boy
My buddy and I actually participated in one yesterday. We both train Shaolin kung fu and we easily defeated ten other fighters at the same time because we moved much faster them and oneshotted them all. 😎
Ah 👆

Originally posted by Naija boy
My buddy and I actually participated in one yesterday. We both train Shaolin kung fu and we easily defeated ten other fighters at the same time because we moved much faster them and oneshotted them all. 😎

Impressive. I am sure you could have shrugged of any blows with your "durability training" too. Btw did you have to register your hands as deadly weapons?

Not just his hands his feet and head are deadly too 😬

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not just his hands his feet and head are deadly too 😬

Goes without saying. I had to register my nuts after I mastered the obscure style of Iron Balls. I can knock out two Ninjas at once with my teabag of death move.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Goes without saying. I had to register my nuts after I mastered the obscure style of Iron Balls.
😆

Originally posted by iceman24567
🤨 shut up
lol

I was in a secret tournament once, I channeled ice through my hands and froze the guy, was awesome. Yeah Valitz earned a lot of street cred in my book by telling people on a comicbook forum how he won a 7 vs 2 fight.... against new york city sewer alligators.

I think the reason why kung fu, karate, taekwondo, etc. are ineffective in a street fight is that they use too many forms when they train.

Like: Block up, punch, side step, front kick, block low.... well you get the picture.

and in a real fight where everything is spontaneous, you don't really have that much time to perform these steps.

now what makes other ma's like boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, eskrima, krav maga, etc. more effective in street fighting is that all their forms are fitted for practicality. they don't have too many forms, and most of the movements are fluid and fast. you don't do form A, pause, Form B, pause, punch A, pause ... well you get the picture.

then compare it to something like boxing, where you do fluid combos, weave in weave out, combos, duck dodge.... well hope you guys get the picture.

How about I box your face in.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think the reason why kung fu, karate, taekwondo, etc. are ineffective in a street fight is that they use too many forms when they train.

Like: Block up, punch, side step, front kick, block low.... well you get the picture.

and in a real fight where everything is spontaneous, you don't really have that much time to perform these steps.

now what makes other ma's like boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, eskrima, krav maga, etc. more effective in street fighting is that all their forms are fitted for practicality. they don't have too many forms, and most of the movements are fluid and fast. you don't do form A, pause, Form B, pause, punch A, pause ... well you get the picture.

then compare it to something like boxing, where you do fluid combos, weave in weave out, combos, duck dodge.... well hope you guys get the picture.

Yes. You`re a clueless moron.

You're an idiot for speaking without analyzing. I actually know what i'm talking about.

Originally posted by Mindset
How about I box your face in.

wow, really brave of you.

Back on topic . Jujitsu for the win. 😛

Typical karate instructor here in the states:
"Ok, Im going to show you how to throw a assailant. Here, grab my arm, no the other arm, no with your other arm, ok, now let me sweep my leg back there, wait, yeah there. Ok, now lean into me. No, just lean into me, dont ask why just do it. Ok, now Im going to flip you. Stop resisting. BAM. There, thats how you do it"

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think the reason why kung fu, karate, taekwondo, etc. are ineffective in a street fight is that they use too many forms when they train.

Like: Block up, punch, side step, front kick, block low.... well you get the picture.

and in a real fight where everything is spontaneous, you don't really have that much time to perform these steps.

now what makes other ma's like boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, eskrima, krav maga, etc. more effective in street fighting is that all their forms are fitted for practicality. they don't have too many forms, and most of the movements are fluid and fast. you don't do form A, pause, Form B, pause, punch A, pause ... well you get the picture.

then compare it to something like boxing, where you do fluid combos, weave in weave out, combos, duck dodge.... well hope you guys get the picture.

I disagree 🙄