Originally posted by jalek moye
She's the love interest in this game? Not Catwoman?
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Talia is the mother of Bruce's son Damien in the comics, so I guess that's where Nemesis is coming from.
Spoiler tagged to keep the character's name hidden for those who don't know they're in the game yet.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I can imagine. The line seemed appropriate though, so I used it. 😛Ahh okay. Yeah, I was watching a video of the AA collector's edition, so I can somewhat understand your disappointment.
There was a Batman Statue (looks great IMO), three DLC items for the game itself, the Soundtrack as DLC, and a code for that Gotham Impostors thing. There was also a Blu-Ray copy of Batman: Gotham Knight. Finally, there was the artbook. The game disc was put at the end of the artbook (no game case) so that was disappointing. On the whole, it was alright. The statue was the best part obviously.I see. With games like these that provide maps for the collectibles, once I start collecting the items, I tend to sweep as much of an undefined area as I can. If it gets too much, I just stop playing or focus on something else. AC's map isn't that big all things considered, especially since Batman can get around so quickly.
I think Penguin likes his irony. You can hear a lot of it when you press the buttons for the Museum display cases iirc.
I suppose. Meh, I did think he was cool though.
I can understand. With all his gadgets and special moves, it can get pretty fugly. I always hate it when I try to Ground Takedown a guy, and another enemy runs up and hits me.
I see. Well I did get the soundtrack thingie from gamestop for getting it the first day, even though I didn't pre-order, and that other stuff I can wait for (like the DLC) or could do without. Interesting stuff nonetheless though, but I hate the Gotham City Imposters thing, or the concept of it, and Gotham Knight I've already seen. Kinda wish I had gotten the statue now, but oh well. I have enough of them as it is (the Scorpion and Subzero ones for one).
Yep, that's true.
lol, Yeah. Those were pretty amusing.
Yeah, I did like his design and stuff at least.
Indeed, and what you said at that last part is why I only do a ground takedown when I think there's only one more enemy left, but I'm usually do the triple stun thing or somethin' before that for the sake of getting more variation bonus.
On the subject of the whole Riddler's Revenge mode, I hate the top of the world predator map as Catwoman. Can't find the right time to do a reverse ledge takedown. The extreme predator maps with her are quite the ***** as well, but at least getting all the combat challenge medals with her and Bats seemed easier than getting all the combat ones in Arkham Asylum, or I've just gotten better at it. Gonna attempt the campaign thingies with both of 'em later.
Originally posted by jalek moye
Same, i was hoping you could take it from the stand. the fact that you couldn't made me a lot less happy with it.
Originally posted by jalek moye
What's croc's role in the game? And is his boss fight fun?
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gets only a small cameo, since you fought him last game. He's living in the sewers connecting to the subway lines, below the Restricted Area. There are no repeat boss fights from Arkham Asylum in Arkham City.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
CrocSpoiler:
gets only a small cameo, since you fought him last game. He's living in the sewers connecting to the subway lines, below the Restricted Area. There are no repeat boss fights from Arkham Asylum in Arkham City.
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Joker is technically a repeat boss battle since we fight him in the Steel Mills.
Still the one in AA was Titan Joker and it was a disappointment. The one in AC had us fighting normal Joker, along with a whole slew of enemies including a Titan & Mr. Hammer, and it was really good.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah, it was. xDI see. Well I did get the soundtrack thingie from gamestop for getting it the first day, even though I didn't pre-order, and that other stuff I can wait for (like the DLC) or could do without. Interesting stuff nonetheless though, but I hate the Gotham City Imposters thing, or the concept of it, and Gotham Knight I've already seen. Kinda wish I had gotten the statue now, but oh well. I have enough of them as it is (the Scorpion and Subzero ones for one).
Yep, that's true.
lol, Yeah. Those were pretty amusing.
Yeah, I did like his design and stuff at least.
Indeed, and what you said at that last part is why I only do a ground takedown when I think there's only one more enemy left, but I'm usually do the triple stun thing or somethin' before that for the sake of getting more variation bonus.
On the subject of the whole Riddler's Revenge mode, I hate the top of the world predator map as Catwoman. Can't find the right time to do a reverse ledge takedown. The extreme predator maps with her are quite the ***** as well, but at least getting all the combat challenge medals with her and Bats seemed easier than getting all the combat ones in Arkham Asylum, or I've just gotten better at it. Gonna attempt the campaign thingies with both of 'em later.
All true. I've also seen it, but I've bought most of the movies in the DCAOU collection, and I was just missing Gotham Knight & Emerald Knights. 😛
Indeed. Nolan North did a splendid job with the voice work. I guess NN should really be in every video game. mmm
It also reminds me. I need to re-read Knightfall. I also wish Bane was threatening in the Arkham-verse.
Yep. Unlike AA, I actually use Stun a lot in this game. Plus that beatdown move is excellent for racking up hits in order to gain usage of your special moves. I don't use the explosive gel a lot in Freeflow though. I usually set it up near a downed enemy, stun another enemy wait for him to get up, use the gel, and then Ground Takedown the guy I just stunned. Doesn't happen a lot. The Freeze grenade is overpowered on the other hand.
I haven't yet gotten around to those unfortunately. But I'm sure I'll be just as frustrated as you.
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Damn.Catwoman's 3rd segment is pretty kewl. You are given a 'choice of two options' near the end of the segment as to whether or not you should attempt the rescue of Batman after Protocol 10 is initiated. I chose to leave, and actually left Gotham as I was expecting her to turn around at the end essentially locking out the choice to leave.
The game 'ended' as it showed me some of the credits along with a plea for help from Oracle, but then rewound back to the choice path and locked out the 'walk away' option.I did not expect this. I expected it to be a linear, i.e. it wasn't really a choice of two options but one, and it was as such. However, it went about it in a pretty cool way.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixSpoiler:
Damn.Catwoman's 3rd segment is pretty kewl. You are given a 'choice of two options' near the end of the segment as to whether or not you should attempt the rescue of Batman after Protocol 10 is initiated. I chose to leave, and actually left Gotham as I was expecting her to turn around at the end essentially locking out the choice to leave.
The game 'ended' as it showed me some of the credits along with a plea for help from Oracle, but then rewound back to the choice path and locked out the 'walk away' option.I did not expect this. I expected it to be a linear, i.e. it wasn't really a choice of two options but one, and it was as such. However, it went about it in a pretty cool way.
I was surprised there were choices in a situation like that which disappoints me that
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there weren't any choices on whether I should go stop Hugo Strange or go save Talia first. Before I was forced to go stop Hugo, I felt a lot of weight on my shoulders. Save the damsel and leave the city to be destroyed, resulting in the death of thousands or save the city and leave your girlfriend to die by the hands of a psychopath? When I had no choice but to stop the missile attack, I was very unimpressed. This game is supposed to be dark and yet I couldn't pick whether to sacrifice a dozen lives for one or vice versa. That, IMO, is weaksauce.
In that case, Nemesis,
Spoiler:would have been massively out of character for Batman. She knew it, Alfred new it, Oracle knew it, and even Batman knew it else he would have just done his own thing without Alfred's help anyway. It was an emotional struggle, but the same as his constant struggle to never kill, if he had gone through with the other choice it would have haunted him for the rest of his life, and most definitely broken him.
allowing thousands of others to die just to save Talia
I rather enjoyed how that narrative bit worked out, as it gave his following actions a sense of personal urgency, a need to fulfill his duty before he can allow himself his personal desires.
Spoiler:Not so much for the Batman.
Actually following through with either choice is in-character for Catwoman, given her anti-villain status. It's equally believable that she'd go help Batman, and skip town confident that he'll take care of himself. For her, the choice works.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
In that case, Nemesis,Spoiler:would have been massively out of character for Batman. She knew it, Alfred new it, Oracle knew it, and even Batman knew it else he would have just done his own thing without Alfred's help anyway. It was an emotional struggle, but the same as his constant struggle to never kill, if he had gone through with the other choice it would have haunted him for the rest of his life, and most definitely broken him.
allowing thousands of others to die just to save TaliaI rather enjoyed how that narrative bit worked out, as it gave his following actions a sense of personal urgency, a need to fulfill his duty before he can allow himself his personal desires.
Spoiler:Not so much for the Batman.
Actually following through with either choice is in-character for Catwoman, given her anti-villain status. It's equally believable that she'd go help Batman, and skip town confident that he'll take care of himself. For her, the choice works.
Well granted it would've been out of character for Batman
Spoiler:but imagine that choice being like the choice
to ignore saving countless lives and go for Talia
Spoiler:Suppose you picked the selfish choice, there would be an instant game over 'cause what you just did was not the Batman way.
you make when you're Catwoman and leave the city which results in Batman's death.
For the record, if I was actually given a choice to either
Spoiler:I would've picked option #1. I just think giving players a choice in that situation would've been interesting for it would've tested us.
stop Strange or save Talia,
Beat the main storyline.
It's a great game. Better done than the first.
But I don't like it as much as I did the first one. It was more of my play style because I felt the story in the first was done much better (even though the ending sucked) and I liked the location better as well.
I also felt because of the smaller nature of the maps, I thought the Riddler secrets was more to my liking. Something about the larger arena, it was more of a hindrance because it felt like busywork instead being an addicting collection quest.
Both games have pro's and con's but because I like more contained and more atmospheric storylines, I liked the first a bit more.
It's still a fantastic game.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixSpoiler:
Joker is technically a repeat boss battle since we fight him in the Steel Mills.
Still the one in AA was Titan Joker and it was a disappointment. The one in AC had us fighting normal Joker, along with a whole slew of enemies including a Titan & Mr. Hammer, and it was really good.
Spoiler:
You don't ever actually fight the Joker in AC...