Emperor Palpatine vs. Harry Potter

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He isnt gonna stand his ground like Luke did, thats for sure, he'll GTFO before Palpy gives him the ultimatum of joining the dark side or dying. Palpy will give his little speech, Harry will be out of sight, safely behind a pillar or whatever, where force lightning cannot reach him.

I ask again, you think Harry is idiot enough to go toe to toe here?

Lightning travels faster than Potter can run. Next.

I ask again, which version of Potter is this? He'd only have those film specific spells/powers, as per the Palpatine gimp. Not that it matters, as he's fried the second the fight starts.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sidious is trying to turn him, man, not kill him. Force lightning will be a last resort, as it was with Luke.

Your turn.

Read the OP, son. "Harry refuses, fight starts". It starts, lighting springs forth, Potter is cooked. Next.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lightning travels faster than Potter can run. Next.

I ask again, which version of Potter is this? He'd only have those film specific powers, as per the Palpatine gimp. Not that it matters, as he's fried the second the fight starts.

Originally posted by Robtard
Read the OP, son. "Harry refuses, fight starts". It starts, lighting springs forth, Potter is cooked. Next.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Again, Palpy is trying to turn Harry, he wont resort to force lightning until he is out of options, as he did with Luke. Harry wont wait around for that, he'll run for cover long before Palpy uses lightning.

Um, no, repeat:

Originally posted by Robtard
Read the OP, son. "Harry refuses, fight starts". It starts, lighting springs forth, Potter is cooked. Next.

I like how you try and dictate that Palpatine will hold back now, because that's what evil-bastards do.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sidious is trying to turn him, man, not kill him. Force lightning will be a last resort, as it was with Luke.

why? if you notice... the lightning didnt kill luke instantly nor did it kill yoda. palpatine can tag harry with the lightning and itll just incapacitate him like a taser.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Doesnt say anything about Harry standing there eye to eye with Palpy, does it? You make it sound like Harry wont try to leave, try to escape. Sure, let's tie Harry to a post and let Palpy have his way, yes?

Listen, I know your last resort is to try and dictate and insist Palpatine will hold back, out of the kindness of his heart, but here's the OP, abide the rules.

Originally posted by Impediment
Palpatine wants to turn Harry to the Dark Side.

Harry refuses.

Fight takes place in Palpatine's throne room on the Death Star.

Harry will not use any of the Forbidden spells, since he is pure of heart and refuses to use them. He has his wand.

Palpatine is the Dark Lord of the Sith and will fight dirty with the Dark Side of the Force.

Remember: The Throne Room has a lot of obstacles, debris, and cover.

The Force versus Magic. Who wins?

Now, like I said from the very start, Potter will be fried before he can raise a shield (debatable if it will stop Force-lighting), pull over a hoodie, drink a potion or run for cover, Force-lightning is simply faster, a lot faster. Just accept this.

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, I know your last resort is to try and dictate and insist Palpatine will hold back, out of the kindness of his heart, but here's the OP, abide the rules.

Now, like I said from the very start, Potter will be fried before he can raise a shield (debatable if it will stop Force-lighting), pull over a hoodie, drink a potion or run away. Just accept this.

This thread is so full of holes it's like swiss cheese. Few questions:

How was Harry captured? Why does Harry have his wand? Why didn't whoever captured Harry disarm him? HOW did Harry get his wand back? First thing that happened to Luke when captured, they took away his lightsaber.

Also, it's even more debatable if the force can penetrate a shield charm. For the millionth time, why did the death eaters have to resort to a vanishing cabinet to infiltrate Howgarts? Because they could not penetrate the shield charm.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
why? if you notice... the lightning didnt kill luke instantly nor did it kill yoda. palpatine can tag harry with the lightning and itll just incapacitate him like a taser.

Remember sidious has force sense so bye bye usefulness of the invisibility cloak

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Who said anything about holding back? He'll give long winded speech as he did with Luke, Harry will have every opportunity to run for cover. Don't be stupid. You make it sound like Harry will be presented to Palpy, and right away Palpy will be all "GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" and cast force lightning. Not gonna happen.

This thread is so full of holes it's like swiss cheese. Few questions:

How was Harry captured? Why does Harry have his wand? Why didn't whoever captured Harry disarm him? HOW did Harry get his wand back? First thing that happened to Luke when captured, they took away his lightsaber.

Also, it's even more debatable if the force can penetrate a shield charm. For the millionth time, why did the death eaters have to resort to a vanishing cabinet to infiltrate Howgarts? Because they could not penetrate the shield charm.

READ THE ****ING OP(I posted it for you above): Palpatine tries; Harry refuses. That's when the fight starts.

For you to insist Potter will have carte blanche to run away and prepare while Palpatine just continues to talk like a moron is one pathetically sad gimp, even by your gimp-standards. So just stop that nonsense.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why? Because Palpy showed onscreen HOW he tries to turn powerful young men to the dark side. He blabs for a bit, then when they tell him to kiss their ass, he uses force lightning.

and it already says in the op harry refused his attempts to turn him.. aka he told him to go shove it. =\

youre reaching.

Originally posted by Robtard
READ THE ****ING OP: Palpatine tries; Harry refuses. That's when the fight starts.

For you to insist Potter will have carte blanche to run away and prepare while Palpatine just continues to talk like a moron is one pathetically sad gimp, even by your gimp-standards. So just stop that nonsense.

Lets get real, Harry will have a chance to attain cover as Palpy drones on and on about joining the dark side.

And there is always the chance that Harry can block the lightning with his wand. If he is going to be standing there like a dumbass, like you insist he will be, surely his wand will be raised. No way for you to prove he cannot do this, so dont even try.

Likely, as Palpy drones on and on, Harry blows him up like the fat ***** at the Dursleys (non verbal spell FTW.) Palpy floats away, wheezing like a gas laden pie eating champion.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
and it already says in the op harry refused his attempts to turn him.. aka he told him to go shove it. =\

youre reaching.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I see, so Harry is just standing there, thumb up his ass, completely out of character? Spite thread.

Lets get real, Harry will have a chance to attain cover as Palpy drones on and on about joining the dark side.

And there is always the chance that Harry can block the lightning with his wand. If he is going to be standing there like a dumbass, like you insist he will be, surely his wand will be raised. No way for you to prove he cannot do this, so dont even try.

Likely, as Palpy drones on and on, Harry blows him up like the fat ***** at the Dursleys (non verbal spell FTW.) Palpy floats away, wheezing like a gas laden pie eating champion.

Listen, if it makes you STFU to claim "spite" on Imp's part, so be it. I don't think he was, Imp isn't the spite-thread type.

No, he won't. Your nonsense assumes that Palpatine is an idiot who will continue to babble while someone runs away and tries to kill him. Harry tries to react instead of listening, Palpatine fries him faster than he can wave his twig. /the end

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, saying Harry stands his ground and waits to be fried is reaching. Harry is always fighting and dueling in his movies, and most of the time he is on the move.

Don't know which movies, as they all run together for me. But Potter has stood by like an imbecilic chimp while shit happened around him and to him. He isn't this battle-hardened, reacts on predatory instincts Special Forces operative you imagine he is. He's a boy, dude. A BOY with a wand, he's not SAS.

The only chance he has surviving an encounter with the Sith Lord, is if he cast 'fellatio' on Palpatine and does it with supreme expertise. Maybe.

Look, there's no way I can prove that HP magic trumps the force, and there's no way for you to prove vice versa. We are forced to place them on even ground, one no stronger than the other.

Having said that, when Palpy produces force lightning, Harry simply blocks it with his wand. You know, the way he blocked spells with his wand in OOTP and THBP. Same way Obi Wan blocked Dooku's in AOTC.

Harry will have his wand at the ready, Palpy will produce force lightning, Harry blocks it. Question is, how will Palpy block Harry's attacks? Because despite the fact the Palpy is Palpy, Harry will, sooner or later, have a chance to attack.

Or he could block, and at the same time use the non verbal spell he used in POA, on the lady in the Dursleys house. No wand required there either.

I think magic is generally stronger and more versatile than the Force.

But Potter isn't faster than Palpatine, Potter isn't faster than lightning, so Potter isn't blocking. Potter be dead.

sids uses force push then uses lightning

Originally posted by Robtard
I think magic is generally stronger and more versatile than the Force.

But Potter isn't faster than Palpatine, Potter isn't faster than lightning, so Potter isn't blocking. Potter be dead.