Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[B]What is it then? How do you explain why two arcs of electricity merge together? Mating season?
because the same way the lightning is aimed with the force, it can be attracted by the force. that should be a simple concept to piece together. what you have is an observation. "The lighting arcs in different directions but meets at the lightsaber" is not an explaination of anything nor is it a fact. its an observation of what is happening not why or what is making it do so.
rots novelization depicts that the combatants (Sidious and Yoda) were moving faster than the human eye could depict.
Sidious instantly moves in and gets harry potter.
Harry potter, as far as I can tell, must always say something when he uses spells; thus, he has a wait time of .5-1 second before his spell takes effect. Even then, missile spells seem to travel a little slower than LIGHTNING.
Sidious's electricity will force him to be unable to perform the graceful movements required with his wand due to electric shock and fry him to death. It also happens precognitive and as fast as lightning.
Originally posted by Rogue JediThat's about as much warning as harry has. Harry's wand is also, wood or pheonix crap or something like that. His wand is going to be superconductive, if it's wood, and organic material thus as conductive as human flesh if its pheonix crap.
Because Yoda, a master ****in Jedi, could have manipulated the lightning when it was fired at him in Palpys office, but he didnt. He had just as much if not more of a warning and time that Obi Wan did.
Energy isn't why it attracts and why the light saber stops anything. If you want to refuse the novelization (which is canon in the SWmovieforum) as an example, use the fact that the lightning was not attracted to any of the power sources onscreen in episode six. Instead it went straight towards luke's body, not to the metal around him or any obviously more conductive material. It's obviously guided by the force.
Also, if you want to get scientific, the only way that the lightsaber could naturally attract any sort of charge is if It was positively charged and palpatine was negatively charging his hands, or vise versa. http://www.myuniversalfacts.com/2006/03/what-causes-lightning.html
Since we can safely assume that Mr. Potter cannot change the polarity of his stick without hermione to tell him what spell it is, (what with fighing voldemort all day and never studying) and it is probably NOT CHARGED WITH ELECTRICITY AT ALL (Electricity=/=magic no matter what the protestants say), we can safely assume that the electricity is directed with the force, NOT because of any scientific drawing of lightning to the impossible beam weapon. That and Light has no significant electric charge.
We have a precognitive, lightning fast supervillain, who can conjure up 1.21 jiggawatts in a nanosecond, much less enough TELEKENESIS to crush potter's lungs and skull within breathless seconds, vs Harry potter, a young lad with the ability to say his prayers to some magic force with exceptional results. I don't think harry potter's getting a "Wingardum Leviousa" off.
Edit: Let's see who gets the back to the future reference, eh?
Second Edit: RJ, no matter what happens in this thread, you're still supercool in my book. <3
Originally posted by Rogue JediIt is more likely that Yoda is keeping his electricity on the same charge as palpatine and sending it flying to deflect it.
What is it then? How do you explain why two arcs of electricity merge together? Mating season?Still waiting on YOUR proof that Obi Wan did what you said he did.
Also, even more likely that the special effects guy knew about as much about electricity as the people in this thread do.
Source: I'm a maintenance man who has worked in a shop fixing the electrics in municipal equipment.
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelAs I said, most likely the lightning is just special effects and the guy who did it put no thought into the science, but If we assume that It works like electricity, since it looks like electricity and is based off of lightning, and electric phenomenon, we can assume that it's not attracted to a beam weapon because of science.
proof that force lightning... something created by a mystical energy field that doesnt actually exist... follows the same laws as regular electricity?
Originally posted by Ms.Marvelwell... we call it lightning, they call it lightning, and if we don't assume it's lightning, we won't get anywhere. Besides, it's his burden of proof to prove that it's attracted to the beam weapon because of energy, not mine to prove it's not.
why are we assuming it works like electricity? it shares a few similarities to electricity aesthetically but what reason is there to assume that it follows the same laws?
With that in mind, I admit its mysticism and I'm basing my views off of what it would look like if palpatine did it scientifically.
Me neither. my muscles are kinda doughy.i dont like your tone mister!
Wow what an epic this thread turned out to be.
RJ - you are the biggest HP fanboy ever.
Your skills of non-logic acceptance transcend all known parameters.
This thread was solved inside its first couple of pages as almost certainly massive Sith win.
But arcing strawman arguments aside, you have to know that Potter is doomed, as he cannot respond in time.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There were actually at least three others. Baiter. Wanna go fishing?
There's no baiting, I just wonder if it's gonna take another epically failing thread - EITHER made by you or with you in it - for you to realise that you are a massive hypocrite.
Everything you are getting frustrated at people for in here, YOU do in other threads. What's the deal? Do the rules of the forum only work when you decide?
Screen feats are to be so rigidly adhered to when it suits you, but not when the person you support has none?
Dude, really. You just fail.
-AC
Originally posted by Ms.MarvelForce lightning is manipulated energy. The force is manipulated energy. Magic is manipulated energy. A wand is an extension of a wizard, it is magically enchanted, therefore it is essentially an energy weapon, same as a lightsaber.
because the same way the lightning is aimed with the force, it can be attracted by the force. that should be a simple concept to piece together. what you have is an observation. "The lighting arcs in different directions but meets at the lightsaber" is not an explaination of anything nor is it a fact. its an observation of what is happening not why or what is making it do so.
See the connection? A wand will attract and absorb force lightning as easily as a lightsaber.
Check it out:
At :35, Dooku shoots force lightning at Obi Wan, he simply raises his lightsaber and the energy blade absorbs it, just like a wand would.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI have adapted to the new "MVF golden rule" and adhered to it since it was amended.
There's no baiting, I just wonder if it's gonna take another epically failing thread - EITHER made by you or with you in it - for you to realise that you are a massive hypocrite.Everything you are getting frustrated at people for in here, YOU do in other threads. What's the deal? Do the rules of the forum only work when you decide?
Screen feats are to be so rigidly adhered to when it suits you, but not when the person you support has none?
Dude, really. You just fail.
-AC
A few others and I thought SS's one screen feat was great enough to beat BB, simple as that. I "rigidly adhered" to SS's one screen feat after the rule was amended, fact. Problem is that the BB supporters thought BB's many screen feats trumped SS's one feat, badass as it was.
Dude, really, there's no fail. Really.
You fail every time you assert 'Pwnage' or a 'win' of a thread,
especially when you cried and cried and cried often to get the rules/conditions changed to suit whatever childish unrealistic fanboy fantasy outcome you "count yourself*" to that week.
Time to take that wand out of your ass, wash the crusty HP and Sideswipe duvet covers and smell the coffee..
Those sheets probably dont even bend anymore by now, do they...?
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*= "One...one...one....one....one....one.....one.....one.....one...."
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthHere you go again. More psycho babble, nothing to contribute to the argument at hand.
You fail every time you assert 'Pwnage' or a 'win' of a thread,
especially when you cried and cried and cried often to get the rules/conditions changed to suit whatever childish unrealistic fanboy fantasy outcome you 'bate to that week.Time to take that wand out of your ass, wash the crusty HP and Sideswipe duvet covers and smell the coffee..
Those sheets probably dont even bend anymore by now, do they...?
😮💨
Tell you what, why dont you tell me how the force lightning will reach Harry, when all he has to do is block/absorb it with his wand? Go ahead, make something up, Ill wait.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Force lightning is manipulated energy. The force is manipulated energy. Magic is manipulated energy. A wand is an extension of a wizard, it is magically enchanted, therefore it is essentially an energy weapon, same as a lightsaber.See the connection? A wand will attract and absorb force lightning as easily as a lightsaber.
Oh wow.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here you go again. More psycho babble, nothing to contribute to the argument at hand.Tell you what, why dont you tell me how the force lightning will reach Harry, when all he has to do is block/absorb it with his wand? Go ahead, make something up, Ill wait.
Firstly...regarding your opening line... stop mindlessly repeating things that people say to you all the time that hurt you...they dont have the same effect on me, for one....just makes you look like the boywonder of butthurt.
Make something up...? YOU are the one who makes stuff up/changes things when the tears of anger and poop comes.
Ok. First, whilst Harry is being TK slammed into the wall at ridiculous speed, Harry will not be in any position to counter the lightning. 🙂
Especially if Palpatine has forcegrabbed the Wand, and force inserted it into Harry's ass.
Can the wand work, whilst up Harry's ass in many little pieces....?