Howgarts wizards versus Sidious and the Jedi Order...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And your inability to prove shit without second guessing is yours.

As I said, say Yoda DID adjust the size of his TK. Was it near enough to block a 100 foot wall of fiendfyre? Nope.

I rest my case.

1. I proved more than adequately that the size and even the shape of TK can be adjusted.

2. You are doing one of two things:

a) You simply don't see what I'm talking about
b) You see it, refuse to admit it, and are wasting everyone's time so you don't have to admit that you're wrong.

3. Fiendfyre has NEVER been a 100ft wall. EVER. Not in the books, not in the movies. In fact, Fiendfyre does not exist in the movies, yet. Like I said, you've damaged your credability as an HP source.

4. I rested my case after proving your wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So he stopped three rocks. That means, if it was his widest TK spread shown, he cannot TK spread beyond that.

Incorrect. He showed an even wider area when he just waved his arm and knocked back the two guards to the left and right of him. That's when he walked into Palps office.

PWNED. PWNED. PWNED!

😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, DDM;s new thing is we cannot give powers to people who do not display them.

Example?

If Mace Windu never was SHOWN using force push, he cannot use it here, even though a lowly youngling can.

Also, Dumbledore cannot use "Oppugno" because he was never SHOWN using it, even though a student used it.

Stupid, eh? haermm

Stupid or not, it's hte forum rules. You can't give screen feats to people they didn't do unless it's implied. Sure, Dumbles can probably do charms. But did he ever use them in a fight/duel? No. Did he EVER use any? No. By that logic, using charms in a fight is out of the question.

On the other hand, using force push is something Mace did. Force pull? I don't remmber him doing that. I'd have to watch Ep II and III again to see if he did.

On top of that, it is a basic force power that all required to master to become Jedi Knights, much less Jedi Council Members. However, mastering Charms is not prerequisite to becoming headmaster, or even passing your OWLs. You only have to pass the OWLs for sections your job requires you to master. Fact.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
On that, we cannot exaggerate their powers either. They can use their powers on the same level as SHOWN in the movies, nothing more. Thats his new thing.

Exactly. No more 50 foot, 100 ft, etc. fiendfyres. No fiendfyre at all, for that matter. Fiendfyre does not exist in the movies yet.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is him weaseling out of accepting that most wizards of adult age can use Oppugno.

You cannot prove that, at all. You're trying to give people abilities that they don't have. Fact. I'm sticking to the MVF rules and logic.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Also he is butthurt because he cannot prove,without a doubt, that a Jedi can produce a wall of TK big enough to force push fiendfyre. He thinks force push will strike fiendfyre as if it were a solid object.

It's reaching, man.

Why would a Jedi need to produce a wall of TK to push a wall of fire that is 6 feet tall? Why wouldn't they just force push just a tiny bit on the ground where fiendfyre originates? Why wouldn't they push the fiendfyre pull back at the caster before it even reaches the ground?

On top of this, fiendfyre doesn't exist yet. 😉

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Well since it [b] is a fact that fiendfyre doesn't even exist yet onscreen so fiendfyre has no basis here [/B]

Remember when Luke was whiny-bitching about the X-wing being too big to move with the Force? What did Yoda say? "size matters not"; yes, this was in regards to his own midget self and the massive bulk of the X-wing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Remember when Luke was whiny-bitching about the X-wing being too big to move with the Force? What did Yoda say? "size matters not"; yes, this was in regards to his own midget self and the massive bulk of the X-wing.

There's also one MAJOR thing about the very shape of how TK is applied to an object, that totally screws RJ's entire points. I still will not tell him what I'm talking about. I want him to watch it over and over until he finally sees what I'm talking about, and then admits he's wrong.

Also, why would fire, fire that weighs very very little, be difficult to control by a Jedi when they are seen pushing droids, debris, etc. with relative ease?

It encompasses the entire object, obviously, otherwise the X-wing would have cracked under it's own weight, if the Force could only be applied to a [small] portion of it. Same goes for the bits of ceiling Yoda stopped and tossed aside.

Rings strongly of the truth, that does.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Rings strongly of the truth, that does.

Every now and then, I see Lucas, either at the market, in a movie theater etc. Next time I do, going to ask him about what he thinks of Force-rape.

Should probably start saving up for some bail money.

😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Every now and then, I see Lucas, either at the market, in a movie theater etc. Next time I do, going to ask him about what he thinks of Force-rape.

Should probably start saving up for some bail money.

And, yes, Force R@pe is one of the funniest things I've read about Star Wars in a long time. I'm sure George would get a laugh out of that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
R u....serious? Do you REALLY see Go....I men George Lucas?

And, yes, Force R@pe is one of the funniest things I've read about Star Wars in a long time. I'm sure George would get a laugh out of that.

Yeah, he lives in my area. Skywalker Ranch is about 6-7 miles away from me, been there a few times too.

He's very short, very furry and out of shape, has a big round belly. Nice enough guy though, if you say "hey, how's it going?", he'll respond and return the gesture.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, he lives in my area. Skywalker Ranch is about 6-7 miles away from me, been there a few times too.

He's very short, very furry and out of shape, has a big round belly. Nice enough guy though, if you say "hey, how's it going?", he'll respond and return the gesture.

you live up near narin county??

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
you live up near narin county??

Marin County. Not near, in, Corte Madera to be exact.

Originally posted by Robtard
Marin County. Not near, in, Corte Madera to be exact.

kudos, a friend of mine used to live there

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