Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Bullshit. Gimmee an example of me doing that.Anakin doesn't have his fighter here.
No, not bullshit. Your "Palpatine can only do force-lighting", in the thread that started your butt-hurt and caused you to make this thread. Pretty sure you did it here earlier on, with the gimping of Jedi powers, like force-jump, force-speed, force-choke etc. I could scan back, but it's 18-19 pages.
If you're going to backpedal now, then it's a very easy matter for a Jedi to use his/her force-speed combined with precog to force-crush a wizards wand and then force-crush their jaw, before they could react, thereby rendering them all but useless.
Of course not. Have to allow the wizards to fly around all of Corusant unobstructed. While an entire planet with defences does nothing. Because that makes sense.
Conflicting lines of argument that you mention, RJ, have been:
(Paraphrasing, obviously)
"Palps can only use PT screenfeats only."
"Just cause all these half apparating wizards havent been shown bombing everyone with fire and magically becoming the nightcrawler, doesnt mean I cant have them do it here."
"All wizards can all use all spells used onscreen ever and their spells have properties not seen in the films". "
"Oh the jedi cant use the force in 360 directions, it wasnt onscreen."
Originally posted by Robtard
No, not bullshit. Your "Palpatine can only do force-lighting", in the thread that started your butt-hurt and caused you to make this thread. Pretty sure you did it here earlier on, with the gimping of Jedi powers, like force-jump, force-speed, force-choke etc. I could scan back, but it's 18-19 pages.If you're going to backpedal now, then it's a very easy matter for a Jedi to use his/her force-speed combined with precog to force-crush a wizards wand and then force-crush their jaw, before they could react, thereby rendering them all but useless.
Of course not. Have to allow the wizards to fly around all of Corusant unobstructed.
Force lightning is a dark side power, and it's pretty uber, dude.
I never gimped Jedi force jump, or force choke.
Force crush a wizards wand? While dealing with all the other shit I proved would be happening? Wow, you are the anti gimper of Jedi!!!
Hey, dont get mad because the wizards can fly and turn the entire population against the Jedi. Yet another example of wizardry power trumping anything the Jedi can muster.
Magical spells ✅
Thank you, Sadako.
I'm going to say the Jedi will also use Force-rape, which is a combo of Force-hold, Force-choke, Force-push and Force-pull
1) Hold the victim with Force-hold
2 Apply Force-choke, but not enough to kill or knock-out
3) Apply Force-push and Force-pull to the anus and rectum, in an alternating fashion
Originally posted by Robtard
Thank you, Sadako.I'm going to say the Jedi will also use Force-rape, which is a combo of Force-hold, Force-choke, Force-push and Force-pull
1) Hold the victim with Force-hold
2 Apply Force-choke, but not enough to kill or knock-out
3) Apply Force-push and Force-pull to the anus and rectum, in an alternating fashion
ROFLMAO 😂
NP... So THATS what Palpatine was doing to Darth to produce that NoooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO....!
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Force lightning is a dark side power, and it's pretty uber, dude.I never gimped Jedi force jump, or force choke.
Force crush a wizards wand? While dealing with all the other shit I proved would be happening? Wow, you are the anti gimper of Jedi!!!
Hey, dont get mad because the wizards can fly and turn the entire population against the Jedi. Yet another example of wizardry power trumping anything the Jedi can muster.
Magical spells ✅
How does that counter what I said about your previous gimp attempt with Palpatine? It doesn't. Also, if the Evil and Good wizards are working together here, why aren't the Sith and Jedi, Gimpboy?
But you did gimp [other] Jedi powers. Glad we cleared that up.
Yes, what's so hard about using Force-crush? Your scenario is also skewed, as you allow the wizards prep time and assume they get to do anything they want before the Jedi are allowed to respond. Gimpboy.
Gimped-Jedi-power you mean. This is only way the wizards win. That or making a spite-thread.
Originally posted by Robtard
How does that counter what I said about your previous gimp attempt with Palpatine? It doesn't. Also, if the Evil and Good wizards are working together here, why aren't the Sith and Jedi, Gimpboy?But you did gimp [other] Jedi powers. Glad we cleared that up.
Yes, what's so hard about using Force-crush? Your scenario is also skewed, as you allow the wizards prep time and assume they get to do anything they want before the Jedi are allowed to respond. Gimpboy.
Gimped-Jedi-power you mean. This is only way the wizards win. That or making a spite-thread.
There are Sith and Jedi, Palpy is with them 🙄
I didnt gimp shit, you're painted into a corner, dude. Magical spells.
OK, give them both 6 months prep. Bring it.
The wizards win no matter how you twist it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, why not. They'll do this while:1. Surrounded by fiendfyre
2. Fighting off ten thousand civilians
3. Having debris thrown at them
4. Fighting wizards on the ground, who are casting spells at them
5. Being affected by the confundus.......Yeah, sure.
Hahahahahaha, sad and pathetic.
This all assumes the Jedi sit idly by while the wizards do all that. How does this make sense to you, seriously?
1) So the Jedi wait while all the wizards cast this spell? DDM showed you how the Force could manipulate fiendfyre.
2) Is the saddest... how many days (weeks? months?) will it take the wizards to control "ten thousand civilians", while the Jedi sit by?
3) Precog, Jedi-reflexes and Force-speed, push, crush and jump will give the Jedi an advantage over a flying bit of metal or stone. In fact, will give any Jedi an advantage over a wizard in a fight.
4) They have their own powers to attack with and can attack far faster. Like I said, Force-crush the wand.
5)Okay, that's not going to net a win against every Jedi/Wizard clash. Just like your fiendfyre angle.
Fiendfyre would not survive being in an oxygenless environment though, will it...?
And whilst Yoda, Vader and Sidious forcerape "Voldy" and "Dumbles" from orbit, the star destroyer bombardment ends most wizard activity in less than a minute....taking a few minutes more for stragglers, dispatched by troop gunships.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
There are Sith and Jedi, Palpy is with them 🙄I didnt gimp shit, you're painted into a corner, dude. Magical spells.
OK, give them both 6 months prep. Bring it.
The wizards win no matter how you twist it.
OP said Palpatine was just here to watch, you didn't name or mention the other Sith.
Yeah, you did. Remember Force-speed; there were others.
What Nep said, the Jedi have all of Corusant to draw from. Shields, gun batteries etc. In a prep style scenario, Jedi pound even harder.
Na. The fact that you're constantly gimping and amending the thread(s) to try and fenagle a win is definitive proof that the HP side wouldn't beat the SW side.
Originally posted by Robtard
Hahahahahaha, sad and pathetic.This all assumes the Jedi sit idly by while the wizards do all that. How does this make sense to you, seriously?
1) So the Jedi wait while all the wizards cast this spell? DDM showed you how the Force could manipulate fiendfyre.
2) Is the saddest... how many days (weeks? months?) will it take the wizards to control "ten thousand civilians", while the Jedi sit by?
3) Precog, Jedi-reflexes and Force-speed, push, crush and jump will give the Jedi an advantage over a flying bit of metal or stone. In fact, will give any Jedi an advantage over a wizard in a fight.
4) They have their own powers to attack with and can attack far faster. Like I said, Force-crush the wand.
5)Okay, that's not going to net a win against every Jedi/Wizard clash. Just like your fiendfyre angle.
1. Again, what can the Jedi do about it? Nothing. If the wizards apparate to the opposite side of Coruscant, oppugno thousands of people, and portkey them back to the temple to attack the Jedi, you think the Jedi can possibly stop this?
2. 20ish death eaters doing it all at the same time, not long.
3. Ignore the rest, eh? The Jedi cannot defend from all angles at once.
4. But the wizards can attack from farther away. Fact.
5. It's gonna disorient them, dude, dont be dim. They'll be confused, thats all the edge a wizard needs to zap their ass.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What can the Jedi do about it? The death eaters can apparate whereever they want, the Jedi cant chase the down and stop them.1. Again, what can the Jedi do about it? Nothing. If the wizards apparate to the opposite side of Coruscant, oppugno thousands of people, and portkey them back to the temple to attack the Jedi, you think the Jedi can possibly stop this?
2. 20ish death eaters doing it all at the same time, not long.
3. Ignore the rest, eh? The Jedi cannot defend from all angles at once.
4. But the wizards can attack from farther away. Fact.
5. It's gonna disorient them, dude, dont be dim. They'll be confused, thats all the edge a wizard needs to zap their ass.
The wizards can "apparate" to a place they've never been before now?
It'd take a few days at least, considering they worked on a 24hour cycle. Not feasible. When were 20 Deatheaters shown?
No, you're debating from a angle that the wizards won't be defending themselves in return and could attack freely, whenever and whereever. Sad.
The Force works within line of sight. So the Jedi could probably use Force-crush, Force-pull or Force-rape from farther away. They'd also get first attack in an encounter.
Yeah, didn't say it wouldn't, but again your angle is that the wizards will be able to do this freely. Fight wouldn't work that way.
Originally posted by Robtard
The wizards can "apparate" to a place they've never been before now?It'd take a few days at least, considering they worked on a 24hour cycle. Not feasible. When were 20 Deatheaters shown?
No, you're debating from a angle that the wizards won't be defending themselves in return and could attack freely, whenever and whereever. Sad.
The Force works within line of sight. So the Jedi could probably use Force-crush, Force-pull or Force-rape from farther away. They'd also get first attack in an encounter.
Yeah, didn't say it wouldn't, but again your angle is that the wizards will be able to do this freely. Fight wouldn't work that way.
How else do they get there? Point is, when they are on Coruscant, they can apparate around just as easily as on Earth. Portkey.
Few days? "Oppugno, Oppugno, Oppugno!!!" No need for a wand. Hermione controlled like tenish items at once, a top shit wizard can do at least that. 10 people per second, 600 people per minute, 36,000 people in one hour. This is for one death eater, mind you.
Probably? Too bad the wizards were SHOWN attacking from hundreds of feet away, and we dont have to guess.
I'm not saying that Confundus would give the Jedi amnesia, but it would confuse them long enough to make them forget what they're doing. By the time they recover, fiendfyre gets them.