Originally posted by Genii96
Just as I thought...this thread was made solely to soothe the butt hurt of the other thread where 300+ pages had the consensus of surfer pushing supes shit in with red sun/kryptonite radiation. However..4urfer can still drain supes like a bamboo stick...alogside a plethora of other tricks...
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Originally posted by One-Punch
Making stuff up again?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer isn't as good as Parasite in absorbing power. Also Superman has resisted getting drained by far better energy absorbers than surfer.Superman helps in making another small sun and resists his energies getting drained by the sun-eater when others fared much worse
Originally posted by abhilegend
😬Even people like Ray, Alan and Kyle failed to resist the draining.
As soon as the Sun-Eater enveloped the artificial Sun, Superman and his team were forced to leave ASAP.
After escaping Superman looked and sounded just as weakened as the other heroes as evidenced by the fact that he could barely talk, and was down on his knees. This indicates he was at least partially drained. He would've been fully drained if they didn't escape.
Then we have Firestorm, who straight up tells Superman he would have his life energies drained and be killed if he tried to take on the Sun-Eater.
Superman and just about every other hero were completely helpless against the Sun-Eater. It took Parallax to fix things.
Originally posted by One-Punch😂
Yeah I've read the Sun-Eater arc. Those scan's don't show Superman resisting anything.
Characters like The Ray were totally drained to the point that even body heat was absorbed.
But Superman was on his knees for one panel after helping creating a sun and somehow he was drained.
Because of other characters, Superman sounded just fine at that point.As soon as the Sun-Eater enveloped the artificial Sun, Superman and his team were forced to leave ASAP.
Superman wasn't drained. Any noticeable drain on his powers happened after days of sun getting drained. If he was drained, he showed no sign of it except sounding wearied after helping create a duplicate sun.After escaping Superman looked and sounded just as weakened as the other heroes as evidenced by the fact that he could barely talk, and was down on his knees. This indicates he was at least partially drained. He would've been fully drained if they didn't escape.
At a long exposure, sure. The sun eater drained ****ing Parallax two issues later and in the same instance drained Kyle, Alan and Ray totally of their powers. Superman resisting that is an incredible showing.Then we have Firestorm, who straight up tells Superman he would have his life energies drained and be killed if he tried to take on the Sun-Eater.
Superman and just about every other hero were completely helpless against the Sun-Eater. It took Parallax to fix things.
Nobody said otherwise. However Superman resisting Sun Eater when two green Lanterns and a high end energy manipulator couldn't do it?
****ing insane showing right there.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Yeah I've read the Sun-Eater arc. Those scan's don't show Superman resisting anything.As soon as the Sun-Eater enveloped the artificial Sun, Superman and his team were forced to leave ASAP.
After escaping Superman looked and sounded just as weakened as the other heroes as evidenced by the fact that he could barely talk, and was down on his knees. This indicates he was at least partially drained. He would've been fully drained if they didn't escape.
Then we have Firestorm, who straight up tells Superman he would have his life energies drained and be killed if he tried to take on the Sun-Eater.
Superman and just about every other hero were completely helpless against the Sun-Eater. It took Parallax to fix things.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Characters like The Ray were totally drained to the point that even body heat was absorbed.
But Superman was on his knees for one panel after helping creating a sun and somehow he was drained. Because of other characters, Superman sounded just fine at that point. Superman wasn't drained. Any noticeable drain on his powers happened after days of sun getting drained. If he was drained, he showed no sign of it except sounding wearied after helping create a duplicate sun. At a long exposure, sure. The sun eater drained ****ing Parallax two issues later and in the same instance drained Kyle, Alan and Ray totally of their powers. Superman resisting that is an incredible showing.
Nobody said otherwise. However Superman resisting Sun Eater when two green Lanterns and a high end energy manipulator couldn't do it?
****ing insane showing right there.
Superman showed the exact same symptoms as the other heroes who were drained e.g., he looked physically weak and was on his knees, and had the same stuttering speech as everyone else who was drained. This obviously indicates he was drained like everyone else. Not to mention the fact that there's no narration or statement that says Superman resisted anything.
If you're going to use the excuse that Superman only seemed weak because he helped create an artificial sun, that same excuse can be applied to all the other heroes who also gave their energy as well, Alan and Kyle included.
Originally posted by One-PunchBecause he wasn't depowered. Everyone else there has renewable power source except Superman whose power source sun went out.
On what basis do you claim Superman resisted his energy being drained?
If he was drained, he would've been depowered. Which wasn't the case.
Superman showed the [b]exact same symptoms as the other heroes who were drained e.g., he looked physically weak and was on his knees, and had the same stuttering speech as everyone else who was drained.
facepalm
Everyone else got drained. Alpha Centurion even says so. Except Superman and Firestorm who reminds superman that going after sun eater will drain him like others.
How was he even able to operate for days with no noticeable drain on his powers if he was depowered just like everyone?
This obviously indicates he was drained like everyone else. Not to mention the fact that there's no narration or statement that says Superman resisted anything.
Except Firestorm and Superman taking everyone away while they got drained.
This is just lulzworthy.
If you're going to use the excuse that Superman only seemed weak because he helped create an artificial sun, that same excuse can be applied to all the other heroes who also gave their energy as well, Alan and Kyle included. [/B]
They were drained as per Alpha Centurion. And that's why they got frost bite.
Learn to read.
Originally posted by One-Punch
On what basis do you claim Superman resisted his energy being drained?Superman showed the [b]exact same symptoms
as the other heroes who were drained e.g., he looked physically weak and was on his knees, and had the same stuttering speech as everyone else who was drained. This obviously indicates he was drained like everyone else. Not to mention the fact that there's no narration or statement that says Superman resisted anything.If you're going to use the excuse that Superman only seemed weak because he helped create an artificial sun, that same excuse can be applied to all the other heroes who also gave their energy as well, Alan and Kyle included. [/B]
Do you have the scans of this showing?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he wasn't depowered. Everyone else there has renewable power source except Superman whose power source sun went out.If he was drained, he would've been depowered. Which wasn't the case.
Everyone else got drained. Alpha Centurion even says so. Except Superman and Firestorm who reminds superman that going after sun eater will drain him like others.
How was he even able to operate for days with no noticeable drain on his powers if he was depowered just like everyone?
Except Firestorm and Superman taking everyone away while they got drained.
Again, Superman showed the exact same symptoms as everyone else who was drained, physically and speech-wise. This can't be ignored.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you have the scans of this showing?
Here Superman and a team of heroes provide their energy to create an artificial sun to lure the Sun-Eater. Note: their energies were being amplified by GL's sphere, and the team was being protected by the ship's shields.
Here the Sun-Eater moves toward the artificial sun and begins to envelop it:
Once the artificial sun is enveloped, Superman and his team make their escape. Notice Superman is exhibiting the exact same symptoms as the rest of his team who were drained e.g., he's on his knees and physically weak, and has the same stuttered speech as everyone else:
Here Firestorm straight up tells Superman he'd get his life's energy drained away and be killed if he tried to take on the Sun-Eater.
The first page of Issue #2 says it's only been 27 hours since the sun was blotted out:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZheXVBU3NFOVZ6XzQ/view?usp=sharing
In the same issue, Superman is shown getting winded from catching bullets. It also states his powers were rapidly diminishing:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhUFpraGN0aDB2Z1U/view?usp=sharing
It's not until Issue #3 where the time-frame of 3 days is given. At that point Superman's powers were pretty much gone.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhb0JNT004SmVmbFk/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhb2dVakxadnRXX2s/view?usp=sharing
Originally posted by abhilegend
How was he even able to operate for days with no noticeable drain on his powers if he was depowered just like everyone?
Originally posted by One-Punch
Here Superman and a team of heroes provide their energy to create an artificial sun to lure the Sun-Eater. Note: their energies were being amplified by GL's sphere, and the team was being protected by the ship's shields.Here the Sun-Eater moves toward the artificial sun and begins to envelop it:
Once the artificial sun is enveloped, Superman and his team make their escape. Notice Superman is exhibiting the exact same symptoms as the rest of his team who were drained e.g., he's on his knees and physically weak, and has the same stuttered speech as everyone else:
Here Firestorm straight up tells Superman he'd get his life's energy drained away and be killed if he tried to take on the Sun-Eater.
The first page of Issue #2 says it's only been 27 hours since the sun was blotted out:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZheXVBU3NFOVZ6XzQ/view?usp=sharingIn the same issue, Superman is shown getting winded from catching bullets. It also states his powers were rapidly diminishing:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhUFpraGN0aDB2Z1U/view?usp=sharingIt's not until Issue #3 where the time-frame of 3 days is given. At that point Superman's powers were pretty much gone.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhb0JNT004SmVmbFk/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhb2dVakxadnRXX2s/view?usp=sharing^ So Abhi's claim (quoted above) that Superman was operating normally for a few days turned out to be false. He was weakened to the point of being tired from catching bullets within roughly a day (27 hours), and pretty much depowered by day 3.
It can't get any clearer than this. Thanks for the scans and I'm saving this post.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Hence why I said he was at least partially drained. The fact that he showed the exact same symptoms as everyone else who was drained is evidence of this.
Your fan fiction might be correct if Superman hadn't informed when exactly his powers started diminishing.
Guess what? It's after the sun eater incident. I can post several such scans which inform that Superman's powers started waning AFTER sun eater devoured sun.
It wasn't diminished at that point. No mention of that.
He was unaffected in the very scene where everyone was screaming. His own words support it.Alpha Centurion wasn't specific. All he said was that the Sun-Eater devoured all energy including body heat. That doesn't exclude Superman, who showed the same symptoms as everyone else who got drained.
All you've got is Superman struggling for one panel and regaining his wording after one panel.
Sorry Pal, that's not enough to override on panel proof.
His powers were diminishing after 27 hours. That's outright stated.Actually that's not true. The next issue gives us a time reference, and says it's been [b]27 hours since the sun was blotted out. It stated Superman's powers were rapidly diminishing, and It was to the point where catching bullets tired him out. To have his powers diminish that much within a little more than a day is pretty fast.
Which provided zero protection.Yeah, with the space-ship...
Again, Superman showed the exact same symptoms as everyone else who was drained, physically and speech-wise. This can't be ignored. [/B]
Except it's outright stated that Superman started weakening long after that.
But I know you'll just ignore that somehow.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Here Superman and a team of heroes provide their energy to create an artificial sun to lure the Sun-Eater. Note: their energies were being amplified by GL's sphere, and the team was being protected by the ship's shields.Here the Sun-Eater moves toward the artificial sun and begins to envelop it:
Once the artificial sun is enveloped, Superman and his team make their escape. Notice Superman is exhibiting the exact same symptoms as the rest of his team who were drained e.g., he's on his knees and physically weak, and has the same stuttered speech as everyone else:
Here Firestorm straight up tells Superman he'd get his life's energy drained away and be killed if he tried to take on the Sun-Eater.
The first page of Issue #2 says it's only been 27 hours since the sun was blotted out:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZheXVBU3NFOVZ6XzQ/view?usp=sharingIn the same issue, Superman is shown getting winded from catching bullets. It also states his powers were rapidly diminishing:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhUFpraGN0aDB2Z1U/view?usp=sharingIt's not until Issue #3 where the time-frame of 3 days is given. At that point Superman's powers were pretty much gone.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhb0JNT004SmVmbFk/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6X_W5ucHCZhb2dVakxadnRXX2s/view?usp=sharing^ So Abhi's claim (quoted above) that Superman was operating normally for a few days turned out to be false. He was weakened to the point of being tired from catching bullets within roughly a day (27 hours), and pretty much depowered by day 3.
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When I thought you couldn't sink any lower.
