Chaos Vincent and Sephiroth vs. Link and Ganondorf

"pulls them down to the
Planet."

Calls to is a figure of speech. Youre looking at it from the wrong perspective... I think it even said in the game he pulls the meteor duwn. (don't quote me on that though, not sure.)

And it's still the same situation as Link... Still not his TRUE power.

By the way in no OFFICIAL scource does it say the BM was consumed after use. It also never says if he can do it again or not... So it's up to the person to deside. Know what i mean?

If it wasn't consumed, all it's good for is calling down another space rock. That's all it does. 😐

It does not strengthen his TK at all, it does not give him TK more powerful than what he already has.

Not nessasarily, It says in direct traslation "Pulls planets" the translator just included the brackets to help understand the meaning.

You're missing my point. The only use it has does not help Sephiroth at all in combat. It's strictly a non-combat magic, and in no way relates to this fight due to the long time it takes for a meteor to reach the planet. 😬

It says "Pulls Planets" .... It's very vague but do you realize what other thing he could also do?

Heres another quote i found by the way...

"It's stated in the book, Reunion Files, that the Sephiroth seen in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children has "ascended to a new level of existence" and is much stronger than before. But Sephiroth never used the full extent of his powers in the final fight against Cloud, and because of that his true potential is still unknown."

It says "Pulls Planets" .... It's very vague but do you realize what other thing he could also do?

Seen the quote a hundred times, it accounts for Sephiroth's improved TK, but he was still put down by Cloud, not concerned.

It says "True potential is still unkown"
Meaning Sephiroth wasn't trying.

EDIT: the EXACT translation is supposed to say "Has the power to pull planets (meteors)"

If you like i can try looking this up for you.

Annnd he still got put down by Cloud. True potential just means going all out. He may not have, but he was still dealt with and has shown low durability, low strength, good TK, but not enough to overcome Ganondorf, and Link's immune to it thanks to the Master Sword.

True potential... is overall preformance, not going all out by the way.
Look at my last edited comment.

K, it can pull meteors. That's all it can do. That's why the ancients sealed it up. It pulled meteors. 😐 Great, he can pull a meteor. It's not going to affect the fight, at all.

"Has the power to" Not just pull meteors... But whatever you obviously won't listen to the book so nevermind.

"but it is usually implied he doesn't exercise his full strength against most opponents."

He didn't even go to his full durability potential against Cloud.

Which was his undoing, because Cloud one-shotted him.

Have any idea what Ganon or Link would do to him if Cloud can one-shot him? 😐 They're on a whole seperate scale from Cloud.

He honestly didn't care. He was in the lifestream "one with life itself" "A being that could controll the hearts and minds of man" as stated in the game.
"A new level of existence." Not sure as to what this means... Guessing it means the lifestream part.

EDIT: his goal wasn't to defeat Cloud.

Actually, he was intending to kill Cloud until Cloud was like "SURPRISE, BUTTSECKS!" and punked him with an omnislash. Sephiroth had it won, but he chose to toy with Cloud rather than kill him.

Higher level of conciousness is cool and all, but doesn't help him win this fight. Neither does being so full of himself he actually let Cloud rape him. A single punch from Ganondorf would liquify either member of team 1.

It can't liquify him considering he can change forms... It liquifies him he'd just change back. It doesn't mean higher level of conciousness, it means higher level of existence. He became one with the planet, and one with life itself. He even infected life itself. He really didn't intend to kill cloud if he just toyed with him... 😕

Ever seen a cat let a mouse live? I haven't. But they sure as hell like to play with their food.

And yeah it can liquify him. Jenova's regeneration isn't *that* good. He still requires a cell base to rebuild from and it's not instant. 😬 A single punch from Ganon results ina puddle of Sephiroth, which he promptly seals in the gap between dimensions, or allows Link to poke with the master sword, destroying him utterly.

It's not a method of regeneration, Its a matter of changing you state and form. (from liquid to solid) Do you get what im saying? Jenova cells are known for their ability to cange forms at rapid rates. Suposibly they can read minds and manipulate people as well. (Not saying she could manipulate Ganon though just so you know.) But you also have to remeber jenova has been doing this for a MUCH longer time, she probably has alot of experience. And sense Sephiroth controlls her...

Changing state doesn't stop Ganon from inflicting insane amounts of physical damage.

12734239370.157 joule <---I want you to consider a force of this level being applied to Sephiroth's body. It would be destroyed, if an Omnislash can do it, Ganon's fist sure as hell can. To say nothing of what it would do to Vincent... *cringe*

Yet agains i see what your saying it WOULD hurt Sephiroth, but his true power is still unknown. If we go off of Jenova's durbility, she survives crashing into plates thousands of times, correct me if im wrong but that should equal or surpass Ganons punch. Sephiroth controlls Jenova right? Jenova is able to crash into thousands of planets and regenerate completely very fast.
Yes omnislash did do something but remeber Sephiroth wasn't trying.

EDIT: sorry was supposed to say "Planets" not "Plates"
Vincent im sure wouldn't survive Ganons punch...

This is where I inform you that with the proper protection re-entry isn't that catastrophic, and bacteria do it all the time. Humans do it in rockets.

Also, not trying doesn't make me easier to kill. If I'm not trying, and you stab me, I'll die just the same as if I was. 😬