Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Started by fortinbross19 pages
fortinbross Ultimate

Read my last comment.

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Great, a badly translated and hand-typed faq page. I'll read it anyway though, I have a feeling I know what to expect.

Phanteros the Shade knight

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
You mean I should consider density in something fictional, use formula's to estimate the weight of a pillar which could, but very likely doesn't, way thousands of tons. Unless you bring me evidence, not produced by fan logic and stats, meaning it has to be from Miyomoto's mouth, that that pillar was thousands of tons, then yeah it does over rule it.

Doomsday killed him. No kryptonite.

Correction Superman was in a coma by Doomsday. Not killed

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You mean I should consider density in something fictional, use formula's to estimate the weight of a pillar which could, but very likely doesn't, way thousands of tons. Unless you bring me evidence, not produced by fan logic and stats, meaning it has to be from Miyomoto's mouth, that that pillar was thousands of tons, then yeah it does over rule it.
So your vague guess over-rules logic, becuase you say so. I lol'd. No.
Also, good thing the guide for OoT refers to the pillars as being granite, too, eh? So we know it's size, and it's composition, thus we know it;s weight, and it's weight is well over a thousand tons.

fortinbross Ultimate

Or i can give you the books names.

Final Fantasy VII - Ultimania Omega
Final Fantasy VII - Comentaries
Final Fantasy VII - The full story
Final Fantasy VII - Reunion Files

I have no idea if the page i sent you has the full Information.
(by the looks of it, it does not)
If you want me to find another link i will.

Phanteros the Shade knight

Originally posted by fortinbross
Or i can give you the books names.

Final Fantasy VII - Ultimania Omega
Final Fantasy VII - Comentaries
Final Fantasy VII - The full story
Final Fantasy VII - Reunion Files

I have no idea if the page i sent you has the full Information.
(by the looks of it, it does not)
If you want me to find another link i will.

none of them mentions a multiverse in FFVII.

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Atleast you're trying, I appreciate that.

fortinbross Ultimate

I wasn't basing a multi universe off of that. I said that universes exist in cosmos (correct me if i am wrong not sure on that.)

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Not to my knowledge.

Phanteros the Shade knight

Originally posted by fortinbross
I wasn't basing a multi universe off of that. I said that universes exist in cosmos (correct me if i am wrong not sure on that.)
cosmos=universe. Universes=Mutiverse

fortinbross Ultimate

Alright then i was wrong about the seperate universes existing part.

linkownsyousobs Pravus

Again, yes. I'll agree Link is physically stronger than Cloud. But the gap is again, not that huge and any attempt to make it seem so is pure favoritism. Haha and you used the guide to determine what it is made of, judged its height on pure guess, width on pure guess, then factored it. I'd do the same for a mako reactor but I honestly don't see the reasoning behind doing math to determine the weight on some that doesn't exist.

Cloud would win because I'm sure he has something as fascinating as a fishing pole. -_-

fortinbross Ultimate

Oh yea i forgot about the Mako Reactor.

Phanteros the Shade knight

What you probably meant was dimensions

fortinbross Ultimate

Yea i think demensions was it.

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Again, yes. I'll agree Link is physically stronger than Cloud. But the gap is again, not that huge and any attempt to make it seem so is pure favoritism.
No, ity's you ignoring feats.

By feats, Link is on a completely seperate scale from Cloud. 😬 Cloud has never, ever, shown himself ot be even close to Link in strength. Soo, no. The gap is pretty huge. Link is metahuman, while Cloud is mildly super-human.

Haha and you used the guide to determine what it is made of, judged its height on pure guess, width on pure guess, then factored it. I'd do the same for a mako reactor but I honestly don't see the reasoning behind doing math to determine the weight on some that doesn't exist.
Guide is canon, and no, I didn't guess. I measured it to the pixel, using Link as a unit. Then I rounded down. Then I rounded down density, size, and volume in general, and rounded down weight. The "1000 ton" number I use? An absolute minumum, assuming the damn pillar is made of styrofoam. haermm keep trying though.

Cloud would win because I'm sure he has something as fascinating as a fishing pole. -_-
The difference being Cloud isn't strong enough to take advantage of the fascination, even if it was canon, and not an interesting gameplay easter egg.

Edit: Linkownsyousobs; I suggest you retire and let Fortinboss continue where you left off. You're only weakening your own arguments and credibility. 😐

fortinbross Ultimate

Here is a picture of the maco reactor in relative size to a large building.

http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/11/10810/react2.jpg

Maybe this is equal to the castle? Not sure though.

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Seems large enough compared to those 7 story buildings.

fortinbross Ultimate

So would you say that would be equal to the Castle?

linkownsyousobs Pravus

Yes ignoring feats. The only feat I've heard over and over again about Links feats is the pillar.

Throwing a pillar? Destroying a building? Seem to me to be on par with each other.

And that is just sad. lol You brought real logistical facts into a video game, used the character model to give a rough estimate of height, went through formulas and processes just to estimate a pillar's weight. You do realize still its fictional? I mean I can again argue he can't cut through a crate. Should I run formulas on it to determine that this crate may indeed be denser than the pillar. See how I'm wasting time with logic and stats? In 2 D games, Link can still kill Ganon and they never threw a pillar. Different Links, same feat accomplished.

The guy willing to dress up as a girl, would not be willing to try something completely random against a boss?