Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

Link by feats could cut through it as well. Your point is invalid. 😐

Link is stronger than KoR until it has a feat.

Edit: did you even read my post? Or are you just going to ignore facts and yell "NO, KOR IS STORNGER CAUSE I SAY SO!"?

Moar edit: Also, throwing something that hefty is more impressive than just cutting through it.

Wasn't the Shinra Building suposed to be over half a mile high? The city was supposed to be around 50 miles wide.

Well the issue here is that a summon is like having another partner which isn't allowed in these battles. Also, yeah KoR has no feats. I would have to have evidence and facts about what it's done(non-game mechanic) to be able to have some sort of base to stand it's credibility on. Also it wouldn't matter if Link could take hits from it since this thread is about Ganon. A>B>C logic won't help here.

The Shinra building is large, no doubt, but he still only collapsed a relatively small part of it. Can't find the mako scene you're refering to.

Im about to post a relative size to the shinra building give me a minute.

Originally posted by fortinbross
Im about to post a relative size to the shinra building give me a minute.

Edit: I guess I don't have the right version, cause i've watched the entire fight and I didn't see him TK anything larger than what I circled in that picture.

Heres a size on the Shinra building as compared to a train, This is just the bottom. The blue thing is a train. Havent found the Scene yet sorry. But this should show you a size of a part of the shinra building.

http://s859.photobucket.com/albums/ab156/Goldbrand109/?action=view&current=ZX02_3.jpg

EDIT: this is just to what you circled. Or the closest thing i could find to the size of the object.

Why is KoR considered like having outside help? You summon it, it attacks, then leaves. Nothing more.

The A>B>C logic exists here because we're trying to factor exactly how much of a hit it would take for Cloud to hurt Ganon. Which reminds me, you can attack Diamond WEAPON physically with Cloud so really, that counts. If he can cut through diamond, which is denser than granite, than he could cut through granite. Meaning, by assumption ( cause thats all everyone does is assume) he could move the pillar out of the way.

Except cutting or otherwise smashing granite isn't particularly impressive.. Link coudl do it, hell Ganon does it effortlessly in OoT 😬

Throwing such a large mass however, is a good indication of strength. You're missing the point.

Ganon is more durable than granite, or diamond. 😐 Cloud can't hurt him physicly, at all.

Edit: the level of strength Link is on in trhe final battle with Ganondorf, where he stabs Ganon in the face no fewer than four times with what amounts to kryptonite, is enough to create small comets. 😐 Yeah. Comets. Ganon *survives that*

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Why is KoR considered like having outside help? You summon it, it attacks, then leaves. Nothing more.

The A>B>C logic exists here because we're trying to factor exactly how much of a hit it would take for Cloud to hurt Ganon. Which reminds me, you can attack Diamond WEAPON physically with Cloud so really, that counts. If he can cut through diamond, which is denser than granite, than he could cut through granite. Meaning, by assumption ( cause thats all everyone does is assume) he could move the pillar out of the way.

Wait... where does it even say that the "Weapons" are made out of whatever their name is... what was "ultimate weapon" made out of?

Edit: Also, if that's the case why are emerald and ruby stronger than diamond?

I don't think Cloud couldn't hurt him at all, Dont you think you over-glorifyong him? Cloud would be able to do something im sure. I didn't think Ganon's skin was harder than Diamond.

Originally posted by Cyner
Wait... where does it even say that the "Weapons" are made out of whatever their name is... what was "ultimate weapon" made out of?

I think weapons just go by their colors... Except ultimate.

You'll have to give me proof that Ganon is more durable than diamond because he is technically still a human. I mean fighting him, he doesn't seem to be more durable than either stone.

Well, given what we know about Link's strength, and that we have cutscenes of Link stabbing Ganon, we *know* Ganon can survive an incredible amount of damage.

In Twilight Princess, Midna even hits him so hard the castle around him explodes, and he is totally unharmed. I'd say that's a little out of Cloud's league.

WEAPONS are made from the planet, which is why I assume they have the density of the gem stones they are named after.

Even diamond is fragile next to what Midna did to Ganon.

Imagine being punched so hard your house explodes, and then amplify it to castle busting levels, and realise Ganon was totally unharmed, and overcame her in less than ten seconds.

This is what i found out...

Diamond WEAPON - This WEAPON is very powerful. It has very heavy armor and appears to be mechanical. Unlike Sapphire WEAPON, it does not swim, but it has the ability to go through water. It is armed with powerful artillery and a Diamond Ray. Diamond WEAPON's mission was to destroy Shinra. Therefore it headed to the biggest Shinra presence of all. It headed for Midgar. Diamond WEAPON was destroyed shortly after the Sister Ray was moved to Midgar. First, it was attacked by AVALANCHE. It hesitated, finally firing its artillery at Midgar. The Sister Ray shut it down, but not before its deadly attack killed Shinra's president, Rufus.**

Scource: http://www.ff7citadel.com/gameinfo/enc_weapons.shtml

It says he has heavy armor, not Diamond armor,

I wouldn't say Ganon was totally unharmed. He was knocked silly to the point where a fishing rod fascinated him. That and an attack, like supernova, is a bit more impressive and Cloud and his friends could withstand that.

Supernova can't kill you. It will only take away 98% of your health.

His real best attack is Heartless Angel, which leaves you with one health no matter what.

What is it with you guys using gameplay mechanics?