Ganondorf v.s. Cloud

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The heat of an exploding star would vapourise everything. There's no way anyone would be capable of knowing he had such an attack because if he ever used it, it would destroy the planet.

If AC Sephiroth is the strongest, Cloud killed him before he could demonstrate his full power because he really wasn't that impressive in comparison to Safer Sephy.
Or, you've been overhyping him far too much.

Not impressive? He had the Black Materia, Holy, The lifestream and the negative lifestream all under his controll, Sephiroth wasn't even trying, as he was already in the lifestream, where he wanted to be.

Its brings you into an allusion demension, understand now? When you get out of the allusion you have been hit by the force of the star exploding, Just like a summon.

Link can be cut by a sword, he can be hurt by a bullet to the face. Even Vegeta could be hurt by a sword early on in DBZ. He wouldn't be killed by the bullet but it would penetrate the skin and make him bleed.

Limit breaks do not equal summons and magic.

Suprnova isn't a limit. It's actually a summon.

Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
Link can be cut by a sword, he can be hurt by a bullet to the face. Even Vegeta could be hurt by a sword early on in DBZ. He wouldn't be killed by the bullet but it would penetrate the skin and make him bleed.

Limit breaks do not equal summons and magic.

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Link can be cut by a sword, he can be hurt by a bullet to the face. Even Vegeta could be hurt by a sword early on in DBZ. He wouldn't be killed by the bullet but it would penetrate the skin and make him bleed.

As I've said.. No. If this were the case, a single strike from Ganon would reduce him to paste.

I still think if he had Holy he would stand a chance.

A bullet would be like getting a needle for Link. It would penetrate the skin and make him bleed. And you seem to be overhyping that a bit. A sword slash from Ganon doesn't hurt that much when you battle him at the end of TP.

Hosestly i think a sword slash of ganon is MUCH stronger than an average bullet.

A sword slash from Ganon is obviously far stronger. But I'm saying, flesh vs bullet. Which results in bleeding.

True, Also remeber from AC the bullets were not normal ones, The guns were compound with elemental and other types of materia, which makes a whole lot of diffference.

A bullet would be like getting a needle for Link. It would penetrate the skin and make him bleed. And you seem to be overhyping that a bit. A sword slash from Ganon doesn't hurt that much when you battle him at the end of TP.

You have to realise in fiction people's flesh can take a whole lot of inhuman punishment without a scratch in some cases.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You have to realise in fiction people's flesh can take a whole lot of inhuman punishment without a scratch in some cases.

Very true, we must take that into consideration as well.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ganondorf seals away Phantom Ganon in the gap between dimensions in OoT.
Here's how it works:
From a comfy spot on his couch from anywhere he wants, Ganondorf first TK's the target by suspending them in midair.
Then, he burns their physical body away with flames that disentigrate the target.
Then, the ashes and soul of that being are forced down into the dimensional rift to the gap, where escape is nigh impossible.

Cloud has zero feats that even suggest that he could survive, escape or otherwise beat this move. Did I mention that Ganondorf doesn't have to be present for any of this?

Wait wait wait, he seals "Phantom Ganon" away huh? That seems like he can do it to anyone all the time without any preperation, yep definatley.

Originally posted by fortinbross
Supernova isn't a real attack it is an allusion.
Its an attack givin to him by Jenova, To simulate the force of a real Supernova.

Jenova didn't give him Supernova.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're missing the point. It shows that Cloud has very ow durability compared to most fictional characters who bullets simply bounce off of. IT also shows that Sephiroth doesn't hit muich ahrder than a bullet because he cuts Cloud several times in AC. Annnd Super nova is not as strong as an exploding star, or Cloud would be vapourised.

Must you keep saying the same thing over and over even though it means nothing, yes Cloud would have been vapourised but Sephiroth has never actually used it outside of gameplay.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If this is the case why bother summoning a meteor? /eyeroll. It's clearly a hyperbolic statement, and one that makes no sense in the context of the FF7 universe and what we know the characters are capable of.

He didn't want to destroy the planet, only wound it. It does make sense, you just don't want it to.

This is just as one-sided as Link vs. Sephiroth. Hint: Linkiroth would win.

He didn't want to destroy the planet, only wound it. It does make sense, you just don't want it to.
Quite the contrary. You want it to make sense, but it doesn't.

There's no way for anyone to even know he had that power pre-nibelhiem because if he used it, guess what? Everything would go kablooie! dur It's also so far out of line with any of his other powers that it's stupid to even consider possibility, and you should probably consider that there was either a *very* bad translation done, or the author was stoned out of his mind. 😛

He didn't want to destroy the planet, only wound it. It does make sense, you just don't want it to.
So, Sephiroth can't control his own power well enough to only wound a planet, rather than entirely vapourise it? durlaugh

No.

By the way Supernova was given to him by Jenova.
He's right about Sephiroth only wanting to wound it.
Sephiroth was going to wound the planet and place himself at the center of the lifestream activity to become a god.

Originally posted by fortinbross
By the way Supernova was given to him by Jenova.

Stop spreading misinformation, he didn't get it from Jenova.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Quite the contrary. You want it to make sense, but it doesn't.

There's no way for anyone to even know he had that power pre-nibelhiem because if he used it, guess what? Everything would go kablooie! dur It's also so far out of line with any of his other powers that it's stupid to even consider possibility, and you should probably consider that there was either a *very* bad translation done, or the author was stoned out of his mind. 😛

So, Sephiroth can't control his own power well enough to only wound a planet, rather than entirely vapourise it? durlaugh

No.

Um, Crisis Core DIRECTLY states he has Supernova pre-nibelhiem, if you played the game for more then 20 minutes you may have found that out.

*sigh* I do not have to explain to you the plot holes that the creators have made, he has Supernova and it's damage is real.

He got Supernova from the Jenova cells inside of him. It was a transfered trait through genetics. Even says so in the book. So it a sense she "gave" it to him, not literaly, figuratively.