Originally posted by Omega VisionYou just gave me a speech about how Superman is the ca. That's unintentionally funny.
I don't know how to give up. Plus Quan's funny in a hopeless unintentional way.
Originally posted by Omega VisionCa was worn by Superman but isn't superman. It's a concept that isn't known to the general comic book reading public in the same vein as the ig is.
CA=Superman. Its his concept and its powered by his story. Its the over-arching idea of the Superhero as represented by Superman. Actually a more accurate way to state it would be that the Cosmic Armor is the representative of the heroism and magic of superheroes, what makes them special and sets them apart from all other fiction.
If you don't like it it doesn't diminish what it is. If we're comparing the concepts of the two things (CA and IG) then the CA wins because CA took some thought whereas the IG was just a powerful macguffin. IG stands for nothing.
Ca isn't Superman and the fact you mistook the two further shows a lack of common sense in your part.
That's like saying Thanos=ig. LOL.
Ig can freeze him in time.
Originally posted by Galan007Do you think this story will be as fondly looked upon as the ig ten years down the road? Or do you feel it was overall a colossal failure in the minds of the general public?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You just gave me a speech about how Superman is the ca. That's unintentionally funny.Ca was worn by Superman but isn't superman. It's a concept that isn't known to the general comic book reading public in the same vein as the ig is.
Ca isn't Superman and the fact you mistook the two further shows a lack of common sense in your part.
That's like saying Thanos=ig. LOL.
Ig can freeze him in time. Do you think this story will be as fondly looked upon as the ig ten years down the road? Or do you feel it was overall a colossal failure in the minds of the general public?
Originally posted by quanchi112most people i've spoken to thought "final crisis" was very good as a whole [especially the tie-ins like "superman beyond".]
Do you think this story will be as fondly looked upon as the ig ten years down the road? Or do you feel it was overall a colossal failure in the minds of the general public?
FC wasn't just a "ohh look at the pretty pictures" type of series. you actually had to have some mental aptitude to understand what was going on.
Originally posted by Omega VisionPipe down with the insults. The shape of something doesn't immediately mean it's the character itself. Supes used this thought provoking armor to defeat Mandrakk. The idea was abysmal and won't be judged down the line as some great new story idea or plot device.
First: Critical acclaim and literary merit have nothing to do with one another.
Second: The IG isn't shaped like Thanos so that's a crap comparison.
Third: I could never match your hilarious antics. Either you're an idiot or you're the greatest ironic stealth-Thanos hater of all time.
It's d list all the way compared to the ig. The ig was an awesome idea and a story that was very popular. Popularity directly determines a from d. A list celebrities are the ones who are the best in their field as opposed to the d ones who seek out vh 1.
Your insults further give me an indication you are trying to dodge the actual debate at hand.
Originally posted by Galan007
most people i've spoken to thought final crisis was very good as a whole [especially the tie-ins like "superman beyond".]remember, FC wasn't just a "ohh look at the pretty pictures" type of series. you actually had to have some mental aptitude to understand what was going on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pipe down with the insults. The shape of something doesn't immediately mean it's the character itself. Supes used this thought provoking armor to defeat Mandrakk. The idea was abysmal and won't be judged down the line as some great new story idea or plot device.It's d list all the way compared to the ig. The ig was an awesome idea and a story that was very popular. Popularity directly determines a from d. A list celebrities are the ones who are the best in their field as opposed to the d ones who seek out vh 1.
Your insults further give me an indication you are trying to dodge the actual debate at hand.
Originally posted by Galan007It was all rather confusing and a minority of the fans liked it. I personally thought it was rather bad. Vampire gods, this overcomes anything thrown at it as a thought device, using song aka vibrations to defeat the ultimate threat of Ds was boring, confusing, and laughable imo.
most people i've spoken to thought "final crisis" was very good as a whole [especially the tie-ins like "superman beyond".]FC wasn't just a "ohh look at the pretty pictures" type of series. you actually had to have some mental aptitude to understand what was going on.
When a large portion of the public disagrees on what is actually written it's usually a poor job of translating the general elements of the plot to the reader.
It's all opinion based. Overall, it tanked. It will quickly be forgotten. it doesn't compare imo to sinestro corps, annihilation, ig.
It's all opinion based, but it wasn't the mega hit they wanted it to be which is my overall point. You can come off your high horse anytime now.
Originally posted by Omega VisionThe ig was successful which is the bottom line of any comic book companies. It's a business first and foremost.
The IG was a run of the mill object of power, the one difference being it was powered by gems. Oh yes powerful gems, no that's never been seen before in every fantasy novel since the Silmarillion.
So now popularity is all that matters? Then I guess Miley Cyrus is the greatest singer of our era.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was all rather confusing and a minority of the fans liked it. I personally thought it was rather bad. Vampire gods, this overcomes anything thrown at it as a thought device, using song aka vibrations to defeat the ultimate threat of Ds was boring, confusing, and laughable imo.When a large portion of the public disagrees on what is actually written it's usually a poor job of translating the general elements of the plot to the reader.
It's all opinion based. Overall, it tanked. It will quickly be forgotten. it doesn't compare imo to sinestro corps, annihilation, ig.
It's all opinion based, but it wasn't the mega hit they wanted it to be which is my overall point. You can come off your high horse anytime now.
Originally posted by quanchi112😂
It was all rather confusing and a minority of the fans liked it. I personally thought it was rather bad. Vampire gods, this overcomes anything thrown at it as a thought device, using song aka vibrations to defeat the ultimate threat of Ds was boring, confusing, and laughable imo.When a large portion of the public disagrees on what is actually written it's usually a poor job of translating the general elements of the plot to the reader.
It's all opinion based. Overall, it tanked. It will quickly be forgotten. it doesn't compare imo to sinestro corps, annihilation, ig.
It's all opinion based, but it wasn't the mega hit they wanted it to be which is my overall point. You can come off your high horse anytime now.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's people who don't buy comics who are killing it. People who buy it only help the industry.
Originally posted by Omega VisionThat's what makes something a-list to d-list. If superman wasn't popular he wouldn't be an a'lister.
People buy crappy comics all the time. I'm not saying IG was crappy but the "people bought it so it must be good" argument is crap, even for you.
Originally posted by Galan007Is a vampire god being staked near the end of fc brilliant?
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Originally posted by quanchi112
That's what makes something a-list to d-list. If superman wasn't popular he wouldn't be an a'lister. Is a vampire god being staked near the end of fc brilliant?
Originally posted by Omega VisionDid Morrison state this or is this your opinion?
Its called meta-text. Obviously it went over your head. Mandrakk wasn't supposed to be a good villain, he was supposed to represent what was wrong with comics, banal pornographic characters with no underlying depth beyond their design and powers.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Did Morrison state this or is this your opinion?