Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

Originally posted by Galan007
aside from the "ninja-spamming" (made me chuckle most enthusiastically, btw) this 'debate' still boils to point(s) that myself, and others (props to ODG) have redundantly mentioned..

ie: utilizing statements/scans from completely unrelated comics, pertaining to 616 eternity being multiversal in nature, then attempting to apply those instances to the "infinity gauntlet" affair is... fallacious, to say the least. especially when we have comments from within the pages of the actual series, which paint a much different (universal) picture.

-eternity-
"to reclaim that which is mine and myself -- control over this reality":
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/61/eternity1.jpg
(singular)
---
-uatu-
"thanos has now thoroughly usurped eternity's rightful position as the center of all reality in this sphere"

"...a valiant effort to save this plane of existence has failed":
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4439/eternity2.jpg
(singular)

plethoric posting doesn't change the fact that if only one reality/universe is mentioned multiple times, there is absolutely no reason to assume an infinite amount of realities/universes (a multiverse) is what the staff of marvel really intended to be involved. particularly when such was never alluded to within the saga itself.

...or perhaps eternity and uatu are just idiots who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about..? *shrug*

Nice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is still simple though. Just because one's power is multiversal rather than universal that doesn't mean you are more powerful in a vs thread here. They aren't fighting throughout the multiverse so it's irrelevant and always has been.

I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm seems to allude you as well as common sense. Lt has stated in the past and ersihkigal comes to mind that he could easily defeat her, but that it would cause an imbalance throughout the multiverse due to their location so he chose an avatar to represent him.

No. You were being misleading and trite. Accusing me of making up things as I go along and then getting owned by scans doesn't offer you any wiggle room to deflect from that and bring up a completely inapposite fact doesn't change that. Own up to it or drop it. Don't try to act like anything else but that happened.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In this situation no avatar was needed, but he still never said that he could simply destroy him. He paused and then stated it would cause the destruction of this reality meaning he can't simply undo Warlock's best. You always seem to confuse Warlock's anger outburst as the best of what the ig can bring to the table.

Ok, I wasn't rereading this arc. I guess with the evidence it does seem to point towards a multiverse. This is the proof I have been asking for so I don't know why it took you this long to post it.

Ok, it was obvious your weren't rereading that arc. I guess that all you had to do was reread it to see for yourself the evidence pointing towards a multiverse. This is the proof I asked you to reread yourself (since you claim owning it on CD) so I don't know why you never bothered to do so and act like you were posting anything that made sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It still doesn't prove it's more powerful than the ig though. A godblast doesn't cause massive destruction but we know it's more powerful than attacks such as Gladiator's and Champion's that destroy planets. That's just one example of something very powerful not causing massive destruction being alot more powerful than attacks causing massive destruction.

We have seen the ig portrayed as supreme on panel within that universe. This has included Galactus, the un, Eternity, Death, and so on. It's not cut it's not dry. The ig was the baddest thing in the universe which included the un. A writer even spells it out. Your touting of one feat in a story outside the ig in no way, shape, or form proves it's more powerful than the ig. We have had direct comparisons in the past with words like supreme, master of that reality, etc. so please relax when reading the abraxas arc. It causes you to break into hysterics and ignore on panel comparisons and writer statements.

No. Please relax with your unmitigated straw-manning, misrepresentations, ignorant refusal to even reread the storylines you're dealing with, cherry-picking facts, ad hominem drivel. It causes everyone to laugh hysterically at the trainwrecks you post and ignore anything that might actually pass for an argument.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. But when one artifact can affect manipulation on a universal scale and another artifact can affect manipulation on a multiversal scale than the latter does make you more powerful. Trying to equivocate around that simple conclusion reveals only your obstinancy and desperation in hiding from common sense. CA doesn't need to fight throughout the multiverse.

No. You were being misleading and trite. Accusing me of making up things as I go along and then getting owned by scans doesn't offer you any wiggle room to deflect from that and bring up a completely inapposite fact doesn't change that. Own up to it or drop it. Don't try to act like anything else but that happened. Reread that issue. It's a four page exchange between LT and Warlock. LT never paused. Show me where he did. You always seem to confuse yourself and believe straw-manning me this time might work unlike the last 30 times it didn't.

Ok, it was obvious your weren't rereading that arc. I guess that all you had to do was reread it to see for yourself the evidence pointing towards a multiverse. This is the proof I asked you to reread yourself (since you claim owning it on CD) so I don't know why you never bothered to do so and act like you were posting anything that made sense. Yes, it does. If someone blows up a planet and someone blows up a solar system, then until proven otherwise, the latter is more powerful. This isn't complicated. A kindergarten student could tell you as much. We work with proof, not with what your wishful speculation offers.

No. Please relax with your unmitigated straw-manning, misrepresentations, ignorant refusal to even reread the storylines you're dealing with, cherry-picking facts, ad hominem drivel. It causes everyone to laugh hysterically at the trainwrecks you post and ignore anything that might actually pass for an argument.

The ig wasn't in the story so of course the un was formidable. I asked for proof and you finally got around to it. I never stated you were lying I simply said offer the proof as I wasn't going to reread this story just for this debate. This isn't the most important thing in my life but it might be for you.

I've read it enough times to know he hesitated. Then his answer was simple that he'd have to annihilate an entire universe to do so only further supporting it wouldn't be easy by any means.

My point isn't about collateral damage. Some attacks are concentrated energy blasts which don't wreck solar systems or even planets ye we know they are more powerful than planet shattering attacks. This is common sense. You are going back to the logic if power affects the multiverse(Odin) then it's more powerful than the ig. Ridiculous.

Every single post of yours accuses the other of strawmanning while you are ignoring a writer's statements and a direct comparison of these two against each other on panel while touting a feat 8 years later in which the ig wasn't even in the story.

^ First off, that's pretty much exactly what it does. The Abraxas storyline changes everything. You can't possibly ignore the Abraxas storyline because it's convenient for you to do so. Not only that, your reliance on Magus > Quasar is misplaced because you keep confusing the user with the artifact.

Yes, you did suggest that I was lying:

Originally posted by quanchi112
You tend to make things up and pretend they are actual facts.

LT never hesitated. Read the comic again or post scans proving LT hesitated. Until then, you're absolutely projecting wishful speculation onto that scene.

No. You're trying to straw-man me again. What the UN did was not collateral damage, Einstein. It purposefully recreated and destroyed and manipulated the entire Marvel Multiverse in a blink. Odin never did that. I never said Odin ever did that. So why keep bringing it up? You're completely mischaracterizing my argument and that's been pointed out repeatedly. You're trolling and doing a piss-poor job at it. Ridiculous (yet predictable).

The irony of this statement is clear. You don't want to use a storyline 8 years later which proves without a doubt that the UN is more powerful, but you still wish to project some multiversality onto the IG because you think it "beat" a "multiversal weapon" which wasn't revealed to be multiversal until that storyline 8 years later? Do you even think about what you're saying before you write it?

Do you really want me to believe you don't care much about this debate? And that's the reason you didn't bother to reread a comic which is the crux of an issue in this debate? You want to prove that? Then don't post anymore. Otherwise, you're clearly the one obsessed with this topic.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ First off, that's pretty much exactly what it does. The Abraxas storyline changes everything. You can't possibly ignore the Abraxas storyline because it's convenient for you to do so. Not only that, your reliance on Magus > Quasar is misplaced because you keep confusing the user with the artifact.

Yes, you did suggest that I was lying: Your words, not mine. And if you're going to argue about this topic, it might actually make sense for you to know what you're talking about. That doesn't require you to study it, but if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't make crap up. It's not my job to lay out everything for you when [b](i) you keep spewing unsupported falsities about the storyline, (ii) suggest that I'm lying about it, especially when (iii) you're too lazy to read a comic that you have in front of you. Don't act like this has anything to do with your supposed nonchalance over this topic. You've incessantly posted over and over again demanding proof. You didn't know what you were talking about. When that was pointed out, you essentially demanded that I walk your hand through it and when I wouldn't do it initially, you kept acting gleefully like you had cornered me. Now that's been revealed, you're feigning casual nonchalance? Please, don't project your obsession over the IG onto me.

LT never hesitated. Read the comic again or post scans proving LT hesitated. Until then, you're absolutely projecting wishful speculation onto that scene.

No. You're trying to straw-man me again. What the UN did was not collateral damage, Einstein. It purposefully recreated and destroyed and manipulated the entire Marvel Multiverse in a blink. Odin never did that. I never said Odin ever did that. So why keep bringing it up? You're completely mischaracterizing my argument and that's been pointed out repeatedly. You're trolling and doing a piss-poor job at it. Ridiculous (yet predictable).

The irony of this statement is clear. You don't want to use a storyline 8 years later which proves without a doubt that the UN is more powerful, but you still wish to project some multiversality onto the IG because you think it "beat" a "multiversal weapon" which wasn't revealed to be multiversal until that storyline 8 years later? Do you even think about what you're saying before you write it?

Do you really want me to believe you don't care much about this debate? And that's the reason you didn't bother to reread a comic which is the crux of an issue in this debate? You want to prove that? Then don't post anymore. Otherwise, you're clearly the one obsessed with this topic. [/B]

Magus didn't even have the reality gem. A huge piece was missing and to suggest Quasar is some stooge who doesn't know how to use the un is also stretching it on your part. Magus never even possessed the whole ig yet he still effortlessly pwned it. Mr. M also put up a writer's statements comparing the two. No surprise the ig won in a landslide.

Again, I read the story months ago and you posted scans up prior to and I asked for something more concrete and you him hawed around and then finally did so. I then said it's probably logical to assume everything meant the multiverse even though it wasn't directly stated at the end in issue 49. I did know what I was talking about and was quite honest I hadn't read the arc in months and asked for a scan or two. Not my fault you were too lazy to do so until just recently.

That still doesn't override a direct on panel comparison along with a writer's statement backing up my stance on this issue.

It's my interpretation just like yours was the multiverse was recreated without it being stated in black and white. I have further expounded on why I thought so.

No, your logic has been thoroughly decimated. You believe a power that reaches a wider spectrum means it's more powerful but back off when I throw your logic right back in your face. Selective logic is not really anything other than a bias showing it's ugly head.

Ig grants someone supreme power over that said reality. Un was involved in that said reality and it wasn't even close on panel.

You lost deal with it.

^ Wishful thinking? The UN is more powerful. Get over it. One artifact can usurp one universe. The other can destroy and recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse in a blink. You can't seriously contend that there is any issue.

No surprise that you keep thinking a handgun killing a guy holding a rocket launcher suggests that the handgun is more powerful than the rocket launcher. Yeah, that makes sense.

You're suggesting that I'm lazy? When you have the comic in front of you which abrogates the need for me to scan and crop pages of the comics and write out an explanation? What don't you get? You didn't know what you were talking about. You talked garbage and suggested I was lying. And you didn't even bother to read a comic that you possessed. And I'm lazy? This isn't Bizarro-world, son.

The on-panel direct comparison is that the UN destroyed/recreated the entire Marvel Multiverse and the IG usurped the 616 universe. That's on-panel. Get over it.

You can't get over the fact that you've been thoroughly embarassed in this thread. Over and over again. It wasn't even that hard. You essentially did it to yourself. And you just proved that you were projecting your own obsession over this topic when you just couldn't let things lie. You're not fooling anybody. Not even yourself. You can't stand it? Too bad. That doesn't justify your behavior in this thread. Get over it and get over yourself.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Wishful thinking? The UN is more powerful. Get over it. One artifact can usurp one universe. The other can destroy and recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse in a blink. You can't seriously contend that there is any issue.

No surprise that you keep thinking a handgun killing a guy holding a rocket launcher suggests that the handgun is more powerful than the rocket launcher. Yeah, that makes sense.

You're suggesting that I'm lazy? When you have the comic in front of you which abrogates the need for me to scan and crop pages of the comics and write out an explanation? What don't you get? You didn't know what you were talking about. You talked garbage and suggested I was lying. And you didn't even bother to read a comic that you possessed. And I'm lazy? This isn't Bizarro-world, son.

The on-panel direct comparison is that the UN destroyed/recreated the entire Marvel Multiverse and the IG usurped the 616 universe. That's on-panel. Get over it.

You can't get over the fact that you've been thoroughly embarassed in this thread. Over and over again. It wasn't even that hard. You essentially did it to yourself. And you just proved that you were projecting your own obsession over this topic when you just couldn't let things lie. You're not fooling anybody. Not even yourself. You can't stand it? Too bad. That doesn't justify your behavior in this thread. Get over it and get over yourself.

You are using a horrible analogy to make your case. If you think the ig is the handgun you have another thing coming. You really do. Do I need to post scans of what the power gem is capable of? It's limitless you and I both know that yet you continue to paint it like some handgun. It can draw power from any source. I think you know where I can take this.

If you had scans the whole time that you withheld I do call you lazy. I also agreed that at the end of the day it makes sense the multiverse was remade. I didn't say it was never stated and it was speculation so don't act like I am this stubborn person who just refuses to admit error.

The on panel feat was done in a story without a direct comparison with the ig.

You seem to be taking this personally. The only one embarrassed should be you for taking this so personally. It's just debating to me. I have a writer's statement and a direct comparison. There are no limits to the power a pgem user can tap into. That's just the power gem, sport.

^ One makes you supreme force in that reality, while the "other" enables you to destroy/recreate/manipulate all realities throughout the Marvel Multiverse. It's been made quite clear which is more powerful. I also see an ig user not doing crap to Maelstrom. I can't say the same for a un user.

The analogy stands clear. Because a rocket launcher is clearly more powerful than a handgun. But to those slack-jawed numbskulls who wish to ignore that, they'd use the fact that a handgun killed a rocket launcher user as if it meant something power-wise.

No. I didn't just have scans. I had the comic in front of me like you. And because of your incessant whining, you forced me to scan, crop those images, upload them to an image-hosting account and actually post an explanation. ALL BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO LAZY TO READ IT YOURSELF. Seriously. You were totally pwned and you still act like you were entitled to something as if that somehow strips or minimizes the pwnage with which you were subjected to. Don't try to cover up the fact that you were literally talking out of your a$$ about a storyline you hadn't read in a while and acting gleefully like you had caught onto something simply because I had hoped you actually read (or would read) the comics. Blame me for hoping that you would actually read comics. Dear lord, how I have sinned! [/sarcasm]

That doesn't strip the on-panel feat of its citability. It doesn't remove its utility to be compared to a relatively piss-poor showing of the ig.

You seem to not be able to let this go. Continually pointing out how utterly pwned you've been in this thread doesn't diminish that very fact. Debating presupposes some sort of competition and guess what? You lost. And badly. You have nothing. You have all the arguments weighing against you in every single way. You've attempted to rely on fallacies, you've attempted to outright lie, you've attempted to feign ignorance at how thoroughly and utterly destroyed your arguments have been. Let it go. Set yourself free. Or don't. Argue for the sake of arguing. Troll because you've got nothing left. If that floats your boat, by all means, be my guest. All it does is expose the trainwreck of your tactics and logic.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ One makes you supreme force in that reality, while the "other" enables you to destroy/recreate/manipulate all realities throughout the Marvel Multiverse. It's been made quite clear which is more powerful. I also see an ig user not doing crap to Maelstrom. I can't say the same for a un user.

The analogy stands clear. Because a rocket launcher is clearly more powerful than a handgun. But to those slack-jawed numbskulls who wish to ignore that, they'd use the fact that a handgun killed a rocket launcher user as if it meant something power-wise.

No. I didn't just have scans. I had the comic in front of me like you. And because of your incessant whining, you forced me to scan, crop those images, upload them to an image-hosting account and actually post an explanation. ALL BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO LAZY TO READ IT YOURSELF. Seriously. You were totally pwned and you still act like you were entitled to something as if that somehow strips or minimizes the pwnage with which you were subjected to. Don't try to cover up the fact that you were literally talking out of your a$$ about a storyline you hadn't read in a while and acting gleefully like you had caught onto something simply because I had hoped you actually read (or would read) the comics. Blame me for hoping that you would actually read comics. Dear lord, how I have sinned! [/sarcasm]

That doesn't strip the on-panel feat of its citability. It doesn't remove its utility to be compared to a relatively piss-poor showing of the ig.

You seem to not be able to let this go. Continually pointing out how utterly pwned you've been in this thread doesn't diminish that very fact. Debating presupposes some sort of competition and guess what? You lost. And badly. You have nothing. You have all the arguments weighing against you in every single way. You've attempted to rely on fallacies, you've attempted to outright lie, you've attempted to feign ignorance at how thoroughly and utterly destroyed your arguments have been. Let it go. Set yourself free. Or don't. Argue for the sake of arguing. Troll because you've got nothing left. If that floats your boat, by all means, be my guest. All it does is expose the trainwreck of your tactics and logic.

Hrm.... had to read quite a few pages... but i'm siding with OneDumbGo's arguments here.

Quan will never admit he's wrong. Like he said himself, "It's the way of Quan!"

It's ridiculous to try and argue with him. He switches stance every post. He believes his way is the only way, and he usually ignores the scans that prove him wrong.

What's worse is that he always wants to have the last word even when he is totally wrong. Notice how anywhere he posts, the topic goes to 5+ pages and is completely out of topic

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ One makes you supreme force in that reality, while the "other" enables you to destroy/recreate/manipulate all realities throughout the Marvel Multiverse. It's been made quite clear which is more powerful. I also see an ig user not doing crap to Maelstrom. I can't say the same for a un user.

The analogy stands clear. Because a rocket launcher is clearly more powerful than a handgun. But to those slack-jawed numbskulls who wish to ignore that, they'd use the fact that a handgun killed a rocket launcher user as if it meant something power-wise.

No. I didn't just have scans. I had the comic in front of me like you. And because of your incessant whining, you forced me to scan, crop those images, upload them to an image-hosting account and actually post an explanation. ALL BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO LAZY TO READ IT YOURSELF. Seriously. You were totally pwned and you still act like you were entitled to something as if that somehow strips or minimizes the pwnage with which you were subjected to. Don't try to cover up the fact that you were literally talking out of your a$$ about a storyline you hadn't read in a while and acting gleefully like you had caught onto something simply because I had hoped you actually read (or would read) the comics. Blame me for hoping that you would actually read comics. Dear lord, how I have sinned! [/sarcasm]

That doesn't strip the on-panel feat of its citability. It doesn't remove its utility to be compared to a relatively piss-poor showing of the ig.

You seem to not be able to let this go. Continually pointing out how utterly pwned you've been in this thread doesn't diminish that very fact. Debating presupposes some sort of competition and guess what? You lost. And badly. You have nothing. You have all the arguments weighing against you in every single way. You've attempted to rely on fallacies, you've attempted to outright lie, you've attempted to feign ignorance at how thoroughly and utterly destroyed your arguments have been. Let it go. Set yourself free. Or don't. Argue for the sake of arguing. Troll because you've got nothing left. If that floats your boat, by all means, be my guest. All it does is expose the trainwreck of your tactics and logic.

Your analogy stinks. Like I said before the power gem has no limits and can draw power from anywhere yet you continue to call it a handgun.

I wasn't going to reread it. It still doesn't change a thing, but it did convince me the multiverse was remade. I won't read something because you are crying about something. Wah on your own time. Take some of your own advice and get over yourself.

The only thing I have is your ass in this thread. It's plain to see that the ig and the gems that comprise it are more powerful than the un. We saw a direct comparison and we know through the abilities of the power gem that it can leach off power from anywhere, anytime including your favorite little tinker toy.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Quan will never admit he's wrong. Like he said himself, "It's the way of Quan!"

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's ridiculous to try and argue with him. He switches stance every post. He believes his way is the only way, and he usually ignores the scans that prove him wrong.

What's worse is that he always wants to have the last word even when he is totally wrong. Notice how anywhere he posts, the topic goes to 5+ pages and is completely out of topic

Originally posted by rotiart
Hrm.... had to read quite a few pages... but i'm siding with OneDumbGo's arguments here.

👆

The funny thing about this argument is,
only 616 had to be remade to fix the Multiverse.

The UN erases from existence not only the traget,
but everything the target ever did in it's history within reality.

So, Abraxas was collapsing the Multiverse,
nullify Abraxas, & the Multiverse returns to the state is was in right after Galactus died.

So, Abraxas appeared because Galactus died in 616,
nullify the current 616, and remake the one before Galactus died,
and well,
no more Abraxas ... which = no more collapse,
which = realignment of all things again.

Also, suggesting that Reed is more qualified than Quasar
in the usage of the UN is also funny.

Reed never ever used the UN, before the Abraxas arc,
in fact, the ONLY time Reed ever used the UN,
was in the Abraxas arc. 😂

Good to see ya

Originally posted by Mr Master
Also, suggesting that Reed is more qualified than Quasar
in the usage of the UN is also funny.

why? well surely you of all people must remember that the alien entity used reed's mind/knowledge as the guide... the blueprints through which it reshaped the entire marvel creation (the omniverse, as i believe you've put it):
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1371/ae1z.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6316/ae2xc.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8736/ae3.jpg

so if reed's mind is able to recreate all of marvel (an omniverse) surely mere multiversal tasks would be easily achieved (given sufficient means, of course.)

Originally posted by quanchi112
The power gem can pull power from anywhere in the universe including your un. I hope this isn't news to you.

Your analogy stinks. Like I said before the power gem has no limits and can draw power from anywhere yet you continue to call it a handgun.

I wasn't going to reread it. It still doesn't change a thing, but it did convince me the multiverse was remade. I won't read something because you are crying about something. Wah on your own time. Take some of your own advice and get over yourself.

The only thing I have is your ass in this thread. It's plain to see that the ig and the gems that comprise it are more powerful than the un. We saw a direct comparison and we know through the abilities of the power gem that it can leach off power from anywhere, anytime including your favorite little tinker toy.

Suggesting that the Power Gem has no limitations without support doesn't suffice for an argument. Even a full IG has shown limitations on-panel. And nothing changes the fact that you're projecting Magus' defeat of Quasar as if that is equatable to the IG defeating the UN.

You won't read something yet you still have the gall to state unsupported falsities regarding that storyline. Yea. Ok. All you had to do was drop the argument, but you kept pestering me about it and then started acting like you had caught me in some catch-22. It was nothing short of ridiculous. You needed to be taught, you even asked to be taught. Nothing else happened.

Gonna need some strong medication to heal you from your self-delusions, son. We saw a direct comparison that Magus w/ IG can beat Quasar w/ UN. Doesn't change the fact that the UN is more powerful than the IG. On-panel. No amount of reverse-projection, wordplay or simple ignorance of storylines changes that. This isn't a debate. It's an information session. Consider yourself informed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doesn't change the fact that IG makes you supreme force in that reality and the UN enables you to destroy/recreate/manipulate all realities throughout the Marvel Multiverse. It's been made quite clear which is more powerful.

Suggesting that the Power Gem has no limitations without support doesn't suffice for an argument. Even a full IG has shown limitations on-panel. And nothing changes the fact that you're projecting Magus' defeat of Quasar as if that is equatable to the IG defeating the UN.

You won't read something yet you still have the gall to state unsupported falsities regarding that storyline. Yea. Ok. All you had to do was drop the argument, but you kept pestering me about it and then started acting like you had caught me in some catch-22. It was nothing short of ridiculous. You needed to be taught, you even asked to be taught. Nothing else happened.

We saw a direct comparison that Magus w/ IG can beat Quasar w/ UN. Doesn't change the fact that the UN is more powerful than the IG. On-panel. No amount of reverse-projection, wordplay or simple ignorance of storylines changes that. This isn't a debate. It's an information session. Consider yourself informed.

I LOVED IT!! clapclapping

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Doesn't change the fact that IG makes you supreme force in that reality and the UN enables you to destroy/recreate/manipulate all realities throughout the Marvel Multiverse. It's been made quite clear which is more powerful.

Suggesting that the Power Gem has no limitations without support doesn't suffice for an argument. Even a full IG has shown limitations on-panel. And nothing changes the fact that you're projecting Magus' defeat of Quasar as if that is equatable to the IG defeating the UN.

You won't read something yet you still have the gall to state unsupported falsities regarding that storyline. Yea. Ok. All you had to do was drop the argument, but you kept pestering me about it and then started acting like you had caught me in some catch-22. It was nothing short of ridiculous. You needed to be taught, you even asked to be taught. Nothing else happened.

Gonna need some strong medication to heal you from your self-delusions, son. We saw a direct comparison that Magus w/ IG can beat Quasar w/ UN. Doesn't change the fact that the UN is more powerful than the IG. On-panel. No amount of reverse-projection, wordplay or simple ignorance of storylines changes that. This isn't a debate. It's an information session. Consider yourself informed.

It can draw power from anywhere. I guess on panel statements only work when concerning the un. I guess every statement concerning the power gem and it's abilities are false. I love showing everyone how narrow minded you are. I don't refuse to accept what I don't want to accept like you do.

Magus didn't even have the reality gem, sport. LOL. An incomplete ig user pwned a un user quite easily. It manipulated it. Power gem can leech off power from the un.

I've schooled you before in the past and you have been incorrect about stories details in the past as well. Don't act like a supreme nerd just because you studied this story and I read it once practically a year ago. That still doesn't prove it's more powerful as I have proven.

Supreme=ig not supreme=un. On panel.