Infinity Gauntlet Vs. Cosmic Armor

Started by Omega Vision91 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
So? No one else was even present to challenge Mandrakk and at the end of the story he was affected by much less. If I am using a bomb no one knows is present to kill someone this doesn't mean I can defeat someone in fair combat.

Ig beat abstracts who have proven their abilities on panel while the ca and Mandrakk did not. Just a lot of hyperbole wanked out imo.


Who are these abstracts? Eternity? Wow, the guy who exists to get beat on by the cosmic threat of the week. Really impressive. The Monitors were all there to stand against Mandrakk and yet their combined power was utterly insignificant when compared to Mandrakk's and the Cosmic Armor's to the point that the mere thought of challenging him seemed suicidal and ridiculous, as if they were regular humans watching a battle between Superman and Darkseid.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Who are these abstracts? Eternity? Wow, the guy who exists to get beat on by the cosmic threat of the week. Really impressive. The Monitors were all there to stand against Mandrakk and yet their combined power was utterly insignificant when compared to Mandrakk's and the Cosmic Armor's to the point that the mere thought of challenging him seemed suicidal and ridiculous, as if they were regular humans watching a battle between Superman and Darkseid.
Eternity is powerful and has proven so on panel. I'd rather have Eternity than a guy being staked by a gl. 😂

They didn't believe they could beat him but with Superman's defiance they gained inspiration.

Lots of hyperbole and in this story, but at the end of the day the ca proved nothing of the sort to be able to defeat an ig user.

LMAO at Quan. He probably didn't even read SB

Originally posted by quanchi112
Eternity is powerful and has proven so on panel. I'd rather have Eternity than a guy being staked by a gl. 😂

They didn't believe they could beat him but with Superman's defiance they gained inspiration.

Lots of hyperbole and in this story, but at the end of the day the ca proved nothing of the sort to be able to defeat an ig user.


Context buddy, that was Mandrakk V2. And that was after being blasted by the combined heat vision of 52+ Supermen for what looked like quite a long time and withstanding the attacks of the Army of Pax Dei among other things. And what feats does Eternity have that make him worthy of the title of Lord of All that Is? 9 times out of ten when he's not rambling on and on he's getting his ass kicked.

Yes imagination=reality, that was the point of Final Crisis, at least one of the points. By believing in Superman instead of Mandrakk the Monitors weakened Mandrakk and strengthened Superman. I don't see that being a weakness the IG can exploit so why bring it up?

And what has the IG done that approaches the scope of the Cosmic Armor? It is at the very best a multi-universal (not multiversal) artifact. Its power was greater than Eternity's but that's honestly not saying much. You speak of Hyperbole yet it was shown on panel that the Cosmic Armor and Mandrakk both operated on a ultrascopic scale to the point that universes were physical objects they could wrap their hands around.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Context buddy, that was Mandrakk V2. And that was after being blasted by the combined heat vision of 52+ Supermen for what looked like quite a long time and withstanding the attacks of the Army of Pax Dei among other things. And what feats does Eternity have that make him worthy of the title of Lord of All that Is? 9 times out of ten when he's not rambling on and on he's getting his ass kicked.

Yes imagination=reality, that was the point of Final Crisis, at least one of the points. By believing in Superman instead of Mandrakk the Monitors weakened Mandrakk and strengthened Superman. I don't see that being a weakness the IG can exploit so why bring it up?

And what has the IG done that approaches the scope of the Cosmic Armor? It is at the very best a multi-universal (not multiversal) artifact. Its power was greater than Eternity's but that's honestly not saying much. You speak of Hyperbole yet it was shown on panel that the Cosmic Armor and Mandrakk both operated on a ultrascopic scale to the point that universes were physical objects they could wrap their hands around.

Name the times he has gotten his ass kicked. Losing to an ig wielder isn't a low showing but getting staked and taken on by angels and top tiers is. Different scopes of powers being shelled out here.

Faulty logic.

The ca was built to beat mandrakk and considering most couldn't get to him or were unaware of what he was doing it all makes perfect sense when you look at it from my perspective.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Name the times he has gotten his ass kicked. Losing to an ig wielder isn't a low showing but getting staked and taken on by angels and top tiers is. Different scopes of powers being shelled out here.

Faulty logic.

The ca was built to beat mandrakk and considering most couldn't get to him or were unaware of what he was doing it all makes perfect sense when you look at it from my perspective.


I'd have to perform a lobotomy on myself to be able to look through your perspective. 😐

When the Spectre and Radiant did come around they got beaten by the weaker Mandrakk V2 so I fail to see your point. You need to stop confusing and conflating the two distinct Mandrakks. One was Dax Novu, the first and greatest of Monitors while the other was Rox Ogama who by all indications was rather low on the Monitor pecking order before becoming Mandrakk V2.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'd have to perform a lobotomy on myself to be able to look through your perspective. 😐

When the Spectre and Radiant did come around they got beaten by the weaker Mandrakk V2 so I fail to see your point. You need to stop confusing and conflating the two distinct Mandrakks. One was Dax Novu, the first and greatest of Monitors while the other was Rox Ogama who by all indications was rather low on the Monitor pecking order before becoming Mandrakk V2.

Ok, this is getting us nowhere.

Where on panel did the ca show it can resist being frozen in time?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, this is getting us nowhere.

Where on panel did the ca show it can resist being frozen in time?


Its getting YOU nowhere because you're an awful debater.
It can adapt to ANYTHING. Time isn't even a universal constant according to Relativity, its more or less insignificant as a concept to something like the Cosmic Armor.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Its getting YOU nowhere because you're an awful debater.
It can adapt to ANYTHING. Time isn't even a universal constant according to Relativity, its more or less insignificant as a concept to something like the Cosmic Armor.
Prove it. It adapted to eternal power and did nothing to suggest he can adapt to the abilities of the ig.

Superman held onto a cliff after Mandrakk was thrown off. According to the ig it had total mastery over time and froze the heroes so prove the can can resist it?

Prove the ca can even hit an ig user since it can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time and knows what the ca user's attack before it even occurs.

LMAO, I guess he wants us to prove it can adapt to every single thing despite the statements. LMFAO, this shows his ignorance

Originally posted by xJLxKing
LMAO, I guess he wants us to prove it can adapt to every single thing despite the statements. LMFAO, this shows his ignorance
Adapting to a vague statement like eternal power doesn't prove it can adapt to every attack thrown it's way. I mean come on, man.

No, the monitors stated it can. A BOOK OF INFINITE KNOWLEDGE STATED IT

Originally posted by quanchi112
Adapting to a vague statement like eternal power doesn't prove it can adapt to every attack thrown it's way. I mean come on, man.

Vague statements like omnipotence, all realities, and infinite? Its not like the IG doesn't have its share of unsupported hyperbole.
Time freeze means shit to something that operates beyond universes and thus beyond time.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, the monitors stated it can. A BOOK OF INFINITE KNOWLEDGE STATED IT
Hyperbole. Unsupported vague statements aren't facts and have no place here. He adapted to eternal power which is what, exactly?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hyperbole. Unsupported vague statements aren't facts and have no place here. He adapted to eternal power which is what, exactly?

What is omnipotence? Certainly not the IG as its power has been overridden and yet they called Thanos /w IG omnipotent.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hyperbole. Unsupported vague statements aren't facts and have no place here. He adapted to eternal power which is what, exactly?
Nope. This isn't statements made from characters opinions. This is statements made from a BOOK that contains all knowledge, all informations, with infinite pages. That's as far as it goes. Then there is the feat where it states it, and proves it and another statement. You just ignore everything. You are like that.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What is omnipotence? Certainly not the IG as its power has been overridden and yet they called Thanos /w IG omnipotent.
When has it's power been over ridden?

LT

Originally posted by xJLxKing
LT
I think you are confused.

CA stomps, honestly. Even the HOTU (which was >LT) couldn't defeat it, maybe stalemate but nothing more.