OneDumbG0
Find Your Own Fire
Originally posted by Mr Master
UN remade the Multiverse.IG stomped the power of all UniverseS across Time.
(besides needing the LT himself to interfere with the IG,
actually, by the end of Infinity War,
the order came from TOAA itself to restrict the IG from being used again)
IG makes it's wielder God beneath a power comparable or passing the LT.
This is what we get when we combine all the facts.
(no matter what took place during the Quasar incident. IG >>> UN any day, all day)
Oh, and an incomplete IG turned back its energies upon its wielder.
True.
Hyperbolic attenutation whose only support comes from off-handed remarks, purple prose and just runs counter to the themes of the story.
Unsupported speculation that the order came down from TOAA himself. And even if you could prove that TOAA got involved, it doesn't make the IG "multiversal" by proxy. The Fantastic Four met TOAA and got him to fix Reed's face. Reed's facial complexion isn't multiversally relevant.
Nothing suggested that the 616 IG could surpass the Living Tribunal's power. Living Tribunal's completely discretionary power to simply turn the Infinity Gauntlet "on" or "off" is proof of that. The plain reading of Infinity Watch #1 shows that any confrontation between LT and Adam Warlock would lay waste to the 616 Universe.
No. Magus using his incomplete IG > Quasar using the UN. You're conflating the artifact with the user.
The fallacy of this sort of reasoning is inherent when you extrapolate it and apply it equally onto the IG. Using your faulty logic, the only way the UN could be superior in scope to the incomplete IG would have been if Quasar was completely unaffected by Magus while holding the UN. That in itself is ludicrous since the UN doesn't even grant it's user some sort of powerup/protection. But it's even more ludicrous when you apply that logic on the IG itself: Maelstrom was completely unaffected by Thanos w/ full IG. Outright mocked Thanos for his impotency and operated completely outside of the awareness granted by the full IG. Do we now conclude that Maelstrom > IG? No. We don't. Because we recognize that the IG has feats greater in scope than Maelstrom's.
Using your faulty logic, perfectly extrapolated, we've now arrived in an untenable position resulting in some absurd cosmological hierarchy wherein: Maelstrom (multiversal++ for being immune to IG) > IG (multiversal+ for stomping Quasar) > UN (plain resetting Marvel Multiverse).
Ignoring the absurdity of this faulty logic as applied to the IG itself is a double standard and too convenient. At the same time, going through this exercise in deductive reasoning (as conclusive though it is) shouldn't overshadow the plain application of common sense. We know that a rocket launcher has a greater proven destructive capability than a handgun (just like we know the UN has a greater proven scope of power than the IG). Killing the rocket launcher user with a handgun doesn't reverse-project some sort of rocket launcher+ destructive capability onto the handgun, especially since the handgun has never shown such destructive capability on its own (just like Magus stomping Quasar doesn't reverse-project some sort of multiversal+ scope of power onto the IG, especially since the IG has never shown such scope of power on its own). The premise is absurd. It's just common sense.
